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Old Yesterday, 20:47 (Ref:3803254)   #181
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Ferrari is very nice. Interesting evolution of their design ahead of the sidepods. The little lip on the halo is cool, and so are the aero details on the mirrors. If I am not mistaken they have managed to sneak in a curved T wing down low attached to the fin in the back.

The wheelbase is very clearly longer, and it is tiiiiiiight in the back!
What little lip on the Halo, I thought the Halo was standard throughout the teams?
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Old Yesterday, 21:31 (Ref:3803263)   #182
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but why not track a team's linage, successes and failures, through the factory they operate out of?
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see: "enstone"/benetton/renault/lotus/renault - there's always a core group of people who have been at a team through multiple identity changes. mercedes has grown a lot but there's still quite a lot of them who date back to brawn.
I agree with both of you. Unfortunately there is no easy/official way to celebrate those teams that have had many names and owners, but still have a significant level of continuity from a location and staff perspective.

I like that there is an identity of something like "The Enstone Team", but I am also able to celebrate something like "The Benetton era" as a stand alone thing and not confusing that with later iterations of the same team. Same goes with the short lived Brawn GP. The group that made up Brawn GP made that magical championship happen before they were "Mercedes". Hence me defending who "owns" that championship even if today many of the players are the same.

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What little lip on the Halo, I thought the Halo was standard throughout the teams?
I believe base Halo is standard, but I think teams were allowed to create some limited level of bespoke aero treatments which are mounted on the Halo.

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What little lip on the Halo, I thought the Halo was standard throughout the teams?
Nope - they can play with the aero on the halo.

But by far the coolest thing are the little wings inside the mirrors, which appear to direct airflow down into a duct in the sidepod below it. I expect both the aero on the halo (also on the Alfa) and the mirrors will be copied by everyone. The long curved t wing is pretty cool too.

The mirrors and halo can be seen in photo 7 at
https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/...os-680398.html

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I believe base Halo is standard, but I think teams were allowed to create some limited level of bespoke aero treatments which are mounted on the Halo.

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No wonder Ferrari were so keen to rubbish the Screen after one lap.
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No wonder Ferrari were so keen to rubbish the Screen after one lap.
One of my earlier speculations on why Ferrari didn't like the windscreen concept was that they may have felt they already had something (aerowise) in the works via the Halo.

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One of my earlier speculations on why Ferrari didn't like the windscreen concept was that they may have felt they already had something (aerowise) in the works via the Halo.

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At the time I thought it might have something to do with that and still do.
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I agree with both of you. Unfortunately there is no easy/official way to celebrate those teams that have had many names and owners, but still have a significant level of continuity from a location and staff perspective.
true no easy way to do it.

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dont want to derail the launch thread so final thought on this subject...

looking again at the picture there is a dayglow yellow stripe after the 2009 year which is a nice bit of detail and a shout out to the Brawn year i assume.

so maybe a liberty they should not have taken but done with enough class that i dont mind them claiming 2009 as their own!
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They didn’t bother claiming all those BAR and Honda titles.
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