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Old 23 May 2017, 01:37 (Ref:3735388)   #826
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It seems that Nissan will use the 2 liter turbo four cylinder engine in the GTR GT3 2018 too.
http://www.dailysportscar.com/2017/0...nismo-gt3.html
Inching ever-closer to looking like the previous-gen GT500s.
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Old 23 May 2017, 01:39 (Ref:3735390)   #827
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Nissan GT-R GT3 car using the NRE from GT500 car? Hmm, interesting.
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Old 23 May 2017, 01:58 (Ref:3735391)   #828
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Dual exhaust though, no reason for it if it's an inline-4.
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Old 23 May 2017, 02:01 (Ref:3735392)   #829
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Dual exhaust though, no reason for it if it's an inline-4.
One side could easily be a fake to throw people off.
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Old 23 May 2017, 02:43 (Ref:3735396)   #830
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Doubt they'd go through the trouble of putting fake burn marks. It's not like they really need to hide anything, as it'll all get balanced to everything else.




Not faked burn either, as you can see in these pictures it's clean.

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Old 23 May 2017, 03:22 (Ref:3735400)   #831
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Doubt they'd go through the trouble of putting fake burn marks. It's not like they really need to hide anything, as it'll all get balanced to everything else.
That didn't stop Cadillac from doing it with the DPi.

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Not faked burn either, as you can see in these pictures it's clean.
It could still be the I4, though - although you say there's no point to it, there actually is one rather notable potential benefit: Exhaust cooling. Split exhaust tips provide more places for the exhaust heat to transfer to quickly. If designed right it can be well worth the benefit.

Even then, they may be forced to do it for another reason - after all, the GT500 car has the single exhaust. But the GT500 is built around a purpose-designed racing chassis. The GT3 cars actually has to be built from a road car chassis, and this may have forced them into changing the exhaust in a way where splitting the pipes was the most efficient solution all around, not just for exhaust cooling.

That said... Nobody's actually verified with any certainty that the car in the picture has the 4-cyl engine: "No technical details of the new car were released but sources continue to suggest that the car is likely powered by a derivative of the 2 litre turbo four cylinder engine currently utilised in the GT500 version of the GT-R."

If the assumptions that it will use it are true, the test car still might not yet be equipped with it for any number of reasons.
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Old 23 May 2017, 10:08 (Ref:3735446)   #832
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So, a GT3 car, in which class the car's engine should be based around a street car engine and left relatively unmodified, might now be using a completely race-bred four cylinder engine?

I don't like this.
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Old 23 May 2017, 10:31 (Ref:3735449)   #833
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So, a GT3 car, in which class the car's engine should be based around a street car engine and left relatively unmodified, might now be using a completely race-bred four cylinder engine?

I don't like this.

Fully agree... a manufacturer can't seriously consider the idea to use a bespoke engine for a road derivated GT3
engine swap from model to another model of the same manufacturer is ok... but what now? super gt engine for next nissan gt-r, will next amg-mercedes gt3 use F1 V6?
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Old 23 May 2017, 15:55 (Ref:3735505)   #834
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That's a good point. It might make costs escalate too much. But then again, we still don't fully know the details as it could still be using the same old V6..
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Old 23 May 2017, 15:58 (Ref:3735506)   #835
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(Out topic)

According to Autosport web:

Title: 住友ゴム、ニュル24時間の応援イベントを28日に開催。トークショーに荒聖治が登場

It seem that Seiji Ara will support the FALKEN BMW for the nurburgring 24 hours race.

Japanese Samurai (Sorry i am not urging you , just share your thought)
Can you please Translate and summarize this article and the title as shown in the bold text as shown the webpage below????

住友ゴム、ニュル24時間の応援イベントを28日に開催。トークショーに荒聖治が登場

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Old 24 May 2017, 04:33 (Ref:3735596)   #836
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According to Bob Suzuki-blog

It seem that GT4 car will replace GT3 car in Nurburgring 24 hours endurance race for the few years later.

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Can you please help me to translate this article as shown as below in the bold text???

Title : フライングw

アンベールはニュル24のMフェスティバルの会場で

艶やかに行われる予定だったのですが

BMWフランスがフライングしましたw

ハイ、これが最新のM4GT4です。

僕らやってるGT3カテゴリーの一つ下

より市販車に近いレーシングカーです。

今やGT3カテゴリーが

あまりにハイレベルになりすぎてて

ヨーロッパではこのGT4カテゴリーに

人気が集中してきています。

ニュル24でも何年後かには

GT3を廃止し(危ないから)このGT4を

TOPカテゴリーにしようか、などと言う

検討もされていて

それが仮に決まったら一気に人気に

火が付くものと思われます。

でも、昔のレーシングカーって

この位の温度でしたよね。

市販車+α的な温度

コレ日本で走らせたいです!

Super耐久には走行可能なクラスがあるので

BMW Team Studieとして走らせたいです。

スポンサーさん大募集ッ!!!

SUPER-GTの体制そのままに

これでレースやりたいです!


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Old 24 May 2017, 07:17 (Ref:3735609)   #837
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Sumitomo rubber (Falken) will hold backup event for Nur-24h race on May 28.
Seiji Ara participate in the talk show of the event.

False information leaking
The unveil was planned to be carried out gorgeously at the venue of the Nur-24 festival.
However, BMW France leaked it before the official unveil.
Yes, this is the latest M4GT4.
This is a class one class down from GT3 we are competing.
This is a racing car more closer to production car.
Now the GT3 category become too high level, so popularity is concentrating in this GT4 category in Europe.
Even in Nur-24, it is considered that it will abolish GT3 class in a few years (because too dangerous) and make this GT4 top category.
If it is decided, it will be popular at a stretch.
By the way, old racing car had "this much" temperature.
Yes, production car plus "alpha" temperature. (He means old racing car was much closer to production car.)
I want to run this M4GT4 in here Japan!
There is a GT4 category in Super Taikyu series.
So I want to run as a BMW Team Studie in the series.
I'm looking for a sponsor!!!
I want to race by the status quo as Super GT team.
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Old 24 May 2017, 07:19 (Ref:3735611)   #838
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Inching ever-closer to looking like the previous-gen GT500s.
No way, that gt3 is a monstrosity. It's not only called godzilla but it's nearly as big Imo, looks closer to the GT1 GTR.
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Old 24 May 2017, 13:21 (Ref:3735671)   #839
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Now if the Inline-4 engine was added to the GT3 car, it'll be a weapon to surpass previous GT-Rs!
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Old 25 May 2017, 11:44 (Ref:3735921)   #840
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Old 25 May 2017, 19:55 (Ref:3736019)   #841
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So they're going for a mostly pink car? Will no doubt stand out from the crowd.
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Old 25 May 2017, 20:33 (Ref:3736036)   #842
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So, a GT3 car, in which class the car's engine should be based around a street car engine and left relatively unmodified, might now be using a completely race-bred four cylinder engine?

I don't like this.
So BMW used a v8 in the z4 (which only came with straight 6's) which was a left over from other projects

so Mercedes uses a v8 (from there previous SLS) in the new AMG-GT which comes with a v6 turbo.

its has happened before, this isnt the first.
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Old 25 May 2017, 20:38 (Ref:3736037)   #843
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AMG GT uses a 4 liter turbo V8. Considering that, I don't know why they're still using the old SLS 6.2 V8 other than BOP reasons.
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http://rowe-racing.de/it-runs-and-ru...wins-and-wins/

Who would ever willingly replace this engine?
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Old 27 May 2017, 11:04 (Ref:3736323)   #845
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According to Autosport magazine,
Hattori judged that Hirate (#39) didn't give a racing line for Nakajima (#36).
So Nakajima didn't take a penalty.
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That is the most Japanese thing I've ever seen. Period.
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Old 30 May 2017, 07:49 (Ref:3737314)   #847
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According to Bob Suzuki-blog

It seems that BMW M8 will replace M6 GT3 in next two years.

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Can you please help me to translate this article as shown as below in the bold text???

Title: なんで走っとんねんwww

昨日のニュルのM Festival会場にてサプライズ!

来年からデビュー予定のM8のプロトカー

こないだConceptが発表されたばかりの

8seriesのMですっ!

実はこれが来年からレーシングカーの

ベースにもなります。

まず最初は僕らの一つ上のGTEクラスから。

来年1月のDaytona24時間レースでDEBUT

で、それに遅れる事約2年

東京でオリンピックの開催される2020年に

このM8か、もしくは噂されてる

新型のスーパーカーをベースに

新しいGT3車輌がDEBUT予定

なのでM6GT3はそこまで、2019年いっぱいまでは

GT3カテゴリーのBMW看板を一人で守ります。

でも、その頃は

もう6seriesとか現行車じゃないんだよなぁ・・・

そういうの寂しいなぁぁぁぁ

もう少し上手く出来ないのかなぁぁぁぁ

ってこないだヨギーと二人で愚痴ってましたw


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Old 30 May 2017, 08:10 (Ref:3737316)   #848
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Title: It's surprise for M8 to be announced there!

Surprise thing at yesterday's M Festival venue!
It's M8 prototype to debut from next year.
It's 8 series M just recently announced the concept!
This car will be the base of the racing car from next year.
First of all it will be GTE class car.
It will be debut at the Daytona 24h race next January.
And in 2020 when the Olympic Games are held in Tokyo,
the new GT3 car is planned to be debut by this M8 or the rumored new super car.
So M6 GT3 will compete as BMW racing car at GT3 category by that time until 2019.
But at that time, 6 series is no longer the production car. (discontinued).
That is not stylish for BMW.
I wonder if BMW can do a good brand strategy a little more,
I complained that with Jorg Muller the other day.
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Old 30 May 2017, 11:17 (Ref:3737349)   #849
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Who would ever willingly replace this engine?
This, plus potential heat issues.

Thing is, that AMG V8 (SLS, etc) and the BMW V8 ( M3 GTS 4.4) were basically sort of road going-ish engines, wheres that four cylinder wouldn't be one
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Speaking of the Nippon Race Engines, it wasn't proven for longer races yet like Nurburgring 24 Hours.

One last thing though, had the Class One regulations failed to unify again, I feel that JAF/GTA would abandon it in favor of a souped-up version of the GTE/GT3 regulations. Imagine the big 3 manufacturers running GTE cars with tons of horsepower and it might reach closer to GT1.
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