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Old 6 Oct 2017, 18:23 (Ref:3772320)   #181
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It certainly sounds as far-fetched a conspiracy theory as I've heard for a long time......
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By paddock, I assume that's the name for a Facebook group, as that's a bit too crazy for anyone to seriously suggest.

My understanding is that a car will still be taken through scrutineering in whatever state possible. Fine you cannot check ride heights, but you can check fuel, engine and gearbox seals, oil levels, etc.
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It certainly sounds as far-fetched a conspiracy theory as I've heard for a long time......
It's nearly as far fetched as suggesting, Raikonnen was actually driving Vettel's car, which is why it was 'retired' before the race started.
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Vettel's gearbox was in fact damaged after the shunt in Malaysia. But the complicated FiA rules meant that he's gearbox was pulled apart, repaired and put back in the car, but did not incur a penalty.

The rules are so complicated that many teams have (surprisingly) not understood them fully, and taken gearbox penalties when they "could have" or "possibly" have avoided them. Is it a case of teams not understanding the rules fully (I'd be very surprised if so), or Ferrari understand the rules better (I'd be very surprised if so) than the other teams??

A very brief explanation of the situation with Kravitz and Whiting on SkyF1 below.

https://youtu.be/mXbrXCoEDis?t=13m20s

TK: "Did you take a fuel sample from Seb's car?"
CH: "I can't say."

Hmmm...

Long may it continue indeed!

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Old 8 Oct 2017, 06:04 (Ref:3772880)   #185
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Vettel's gearbox was in fact damaged after the shunt in Malaysia. But the complicated FiA rules meant that he's gearbox was pulled apart, repaired and put back in the car, but did not incur a penalty.

The rules are so complicated that many teams have (surprisingly) not understood them fully, and taken gearbox penalties when they "could have" or "possibly" have avoided them. Is it a case of teams not understanding the rules fully (I'd be very surprised if so), or Ferrari understand the rules better (I'd be very surprised if so) than the other teams??

A very brief explanation of the situation with Kravitz and Whiting on SkyF1 below.

https://youtu.be/mXbrXCoEDis?t=13m20s

TK: "Did you take a fuel sample from Seb's car?"
CH: "I can't say."

Hmmm...

Long may it continue indeed!
http://www.thedrive.com/accelerator/14911/sebastian-vettels-gearbox-undamaged-in-post-race-malaysia-crash

'Ferrari announced that his car's gearbox was undamaged'
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The gearbox casing was damaged, cracked with pieces missing even. As was confirmed by Ferrari on the Italian coverage live on air in Japan(and also SkyF1's Ted Kravitz in that video link above @3:35sec).

But the complicated FiA rules only take into consideration the gearbox cassette. As was explained by Charlie in that video link I posted. It's a very technical situation that maybe Ferrari has an advantage with the design of their so called "gearbox".

Where as maybe with some of the other teams gearbox designs, if they find only the gearbox casing is cracked, the entire gearbox unit has to be changed as it is linked with items or some other reason??

Or.., maybe, just maybe the FiA were (desperately) doing their best to keep the championship alive?? It's not like they have not done it before now is it? They have form twisting the rules when it suits their own objectives.
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Or.., maybe, just maybe the FiA were (desperately) doing their best to keep the championship alive?? It's not like they have not done it before now is it? They have form twisting the rules when it suits their own objectives.
In that video they also talk about some people having very wild imaginations.
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