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Old 8 Oct 2017, 12:00 (Ref:3772980)   #196
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Considering some of the budgets these guys are running would put you in a decent seat in Super2, perhaps cost-containment measures won't be too far away?
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Old 8 Oct 2017, 23:51 (Ref:3773091)   #197
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Couldn't agree more. Its a case of the haves and have nots in that series these days.
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Old 9 Oct 2017, 00:05 (Ref:3773096)   #198
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Definitely agree the $$$ are at a pretty scary level. Especially when they go chasing mega horsepower then have rpm limits imposed/lowered or ballast added because of the extra development. There must be smart people around who can come up with an effective way of disincentivising huge spending, although the variety of vehicles makes it difficult. Perhaps just increase the size of the lead trophies?
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Old 9 Oct 2017, 01:23 (Ref:3773106)   #199
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Definitely agree the $$$ are at a pretty scary level. Especially when they go chasing mega horsepower then have rpm limits imposed/lowered or ballast added because of the extra development. There must be smart people around who can come up with an effective way of disincentivising huge spending, although the variety of vehicles makes it difficult. Perhaps just increase the size of the lead trophies?
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Old 11 Oct 2017, 03:08 (Ref:3773553)   #200
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Considering some of the budgets these guys are running would put you in a decent seat in Super2, perhaps cost-containment measures won't be too far away?
They are mostly gentleman drivers who are not interested in battling the youngsters in Super2. Either let them spend up big "Jobs and growth in the engine building sector", or they will go and play in the Australian GT series instead surely?

Is it really true that an ace driver can't be competitive with an older, basic Mustang or Monaro? Having not seen aces take the wheel of such things, isn't it premature to say that the big budgets can't be overcome with good driving?
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They are mostly gentleman drivers who are not interested in battling the youngsters in Super2. Either let them spend up big "Jobs and growth in the engine building sector", or they will go and play in the Australian GT series instead surely?

Is it really true that an ace driver can't be competitive with an older, basic Mustang or Monaro? Having not seen aces take the wheel of such things, isn't it premature to say that the big budgets can't be overcome with good driving?
It is possible that a great driver in a basic car can be competitive against a basic driver in a great car. But if you look at the pointy end of the grid, you have Bowe in the best Torana, Steve Richards in the best Mustang...just those two alone have to make life hard for the others.
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Considering some of the budgets these guys are running would put you in a decent seat in Super2, perhaps cost-containment measures won't be too far away?
Hard to see the commercial return on a $250k annual spend plus the cost of building the car, as some at the front are apparently outlaying...
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Old 11 Oct 2017, 08:50 (Ref:3773594)   #203
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Some are reportedly spending in the vicinity of $350K a year, on top of the build of the car.
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Old 11 Oct 2017, 09:44 (Ref:3773608)   #204
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Hard to see the commercial return on a $250k annual spend plus the cost of building the car, as some at the front are apparently outlaying...
What would the bare minimum cost be when employing a paid staff or professional racing team to prepare the car, with no development and stretching the components to their maximum mileage?

It's not really fair to compare with volunteer crewed (or NO crew! :P ) cars, towed around the country by the owner-driver behind their Hilux on a trailer ala some 86 series, Improved Production or second-string Porsche series runners.
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Old 30 Oct 2017, 05:08 (Ref:3777356)   #205
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According to the TCM website the 2017 TCM series finished at Bathurst.

Is that correct?
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According to the TCM website the 2017 TCM series finished at Bathurst.

Is that correct?
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Old 30 Oct 2017, 05:46 (Ref:3777363)   #207
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Latest ACM mag, says there has been a request to allow a "tru blu" xd in. Of course that also means moving the cut off date, allowing VB commy, RX7 etc

Thoughts?
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Old 30 Oct 2017, 06:57 (Ref:3777382)   #208
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Latest ACM mag, says there has been a request to allow a "tru blu" xd in. Of course that also means moving the cut off date, allowing VB commy, RX7 etc

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Good, I think. They will soon be into the turbos, which will be a lot of fun.

Any grumbles from the Group C/A chaps?
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Good, I think. They will soon be into the turbos, which will be a lot of fun.

Any grumbles from the Group C/A chaps?
Isn't the plan at the moment just for the XD, and for the amount of XD's to be capped at 5?

Be a brave move for TCM if they started letting teams loose with turbo development and so on

I don't think Group C/A would worry, the TCM cars aren't the real things.
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Old 24 Nov 2017, 05:45 (Ref:3782568)   #210
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TCM really suffer at these supercar meetings such as Newcastle.

All they got today was20 minutes of practice, then have to sit around for rest of day.

Why do minor categories such as Aussie race cars and T86ís each get 40 minutes, that is double that of TCM.

And look at the fluff that Supercars have on the list for the last hours of the day.....
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