Delta Wing Discussion ONLY - Page 94

**bjohnsonsmith** · 4 Sep 2013, 14:20 (Ref:3298884)

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Originally Posted by avvelenamento

worst moving object ever seen in my whole life... I fear we will never be set free from this deltash!t madness

What madness?

avvelenamento · 4 Sep 2013, 14:24 (Ref:3298889)

For madness I mean to see this (IMHO) stupid car still around, now also in coupè version... you know, is clear that I hate this car, and is just an opinion, but it seems I'm not the only one.

**bjohnsonsmith** · 4 Sep 2013, 14:30 (Ref:3298893)

What's stupid about it?

rwintle · 4 Sep 2013, 14:34 (Ref:3298895)

Just a minor quibble, but this is the Deltawing 2012 thread. Over, done, nothing to see here.

Peat · 4 Sep 2013, 14:41 (Ref:3298897)

I think that looks nice. If they can keep the chrome paint away from it, it'll stay nice.

deltawing · 4 Sep 2013, 14:54 (Ref:3298903)

Quote:

Originally Posted by avvelenamento

....you know, is clear that I hate this car....

It is extremely clear you (and good part of the posters here) hate this car , but my question is why do you (and few others) have to come and post about how much you hate this car on every occasion this thread gets alive?

You said it once, I think it is enough, everyone got it! Can you let others to have a conversation about something different than how much you and the rest hate this car?

optica · 4 Sep 2013, 16:29 (Ref:3298944)

Seems the three lug set up on the DW front wheels came about as a weight saving issue..... According to the following quote Nissan have engineered a single nut solution:
"Nissan ZEOD RC The 3 lug set-up was a weight scenario - we've used some clever engineering to get down to the same weight with a single nut this time".
Will be interesting to see if the DW will adopt same at some stage.

Tim240z · 4 Sep 2013, 17:28 (Ref:3298968)

Quote:

Originally Posted by optica

Seems the three lug set up on the DW front wheels came about as a weight saving issue..... According to the following quote Nissan have engineered a single nut solution:
"Nissan ZEOD RC The 3 lug set-up was a weight scenario - we've used some clever engineering to get down to the same weight with a single nut this time".
Will be interesting to see if the DW will adopt same at some stage.

HAHA... that was me who posted that question.

They've been very open and responsive with questioning... Its really got me into the project when initially I was very disappointed with it.

miatanut · 4 Sep 2013, 21:46 (Ref:3299105)

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Originally Posted by rwintle

Just a minor quibble, but this is the Deltawing 2012 thread. Over, done, nothing to see here.

Should there be a separate Panoz DW coupe thread?

The proliferation of DW threads would REALLY driver the haterz crazy!

miatanut · 4 Sep 2013, 21:51 (Ref:3299110)

Quote:

Originally Posted by avvelenamento

For madness I mean to see this (IMHO) stupid car still around, now also in coupè version... you know, is clear that I hate this car, and is just an opinion, but it seems I'm not the only one.

OK, WHY do you hate it?

Somebody decided to take a step back from the rules, use modern tools and analyses to design a better mousetrap and the result looks a different from what we are used to.

The first horseless carriages were widely hated. To me, hating this car is the same thing as hating the first horseless carriages.

HJJ · 5 Sep 2013, 01:28 (Ref:3299175)

http://www.deltawingracing.com/news/...sful-test.html

**joeb** · 5 Sep 2013, 02:30 (Ref:3299187)

Quote:

Originally Posted by HJJ

http://www.deltawingracing.com/news/...sful-test.html

I got to say I am a little bit impressed. I had my doubts that they would actually be able to get the couple designed and built, and even if this share a lot with the original concept I am still impressed. Hope the coupé does well at cota.

I wonder how the aero efficiency has changed with the new shape?

TF110 · 5 Sep 2013, 04:59 (Ref:3299210)

Thats not the most elegant canopy, but its an improvement over the original DW.

deggis · 5 Sep 2013, 14:20 (Ref:3299474)

http://www.deltawingracing.com/2013-...14-coupe-test/

**joeb** · 5 Sep 2013, 14:24 (Ref:3299481)

doesnt look too bad from behind does it?

Is it strange that the exhaust exits on the side of the engine bay instead of out the tunnel in the back of the engine bay?

**bjohnsonsmith** · 5 Sep 2013, 15:56 (Ref:3299517)

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Originally Posted by TF110

Thats not the most elegant canopy, but its an improvement over the original DW.

I quite liked the open cockpit version, the coupe version from head on just seems a bit bulky. The ribbing behind the canopy reminds me of the DP01.

HORNDAWG · 5 Sep 2013, 16:08 (Ref:3299525)

http://www.trackninemedia.com/

L.P.

dxk1 · 5 Sep 2013, 16:42 (Ref:3299542)

Quote:

Originally Posted by miatanut

OK, WHY do you hate it?

Somebody decided to take a step back from the rules, use modern tools and analyses to design a better mousetrap and the result looks a different from what we are used to.

The first horseless carriages were widely hated. To me, hating this car is the same thing as hating the first horseless carriages.

I wonder how many people actually "hate" this car rather than just hate the idea of it running as a sportcar in this particular series. I would venture to guess that most people don't actually hate the car because as you point out it is an innovative, thought-provoking design concept. I guess the thing they hate is how did it wind up getting shoehorned into some category to race in ALMS/Grand Am/USCR events when other cars, much more in line with the rules have not been allowed to race? Anyway, it is here and it doesn't seem to going away so I guess we just learn to deal with it.

DK

**Aysedasi** · 5 Sep 2013, 17:03 (Ref:3299554)

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeb

doesnt look too bad from behind does it?

Is it strange that the exhaust exits on the side of the engine bay instead of out the tunnel in the back of the engine bay?

Definitely agree

Not that fussed on the front view, TBH, but from the rear and side, not at all bad.

**bjohnsonsmith** · 5 Sep 2013, 17:12 (Ref:3299561)

Quote:

Originally Posted by dxk1

I wonder how many people actually "hate" this car rather than just hate the idea of it running as a sportcar in this particular series. I would venture to guess that most people don't actually hate the car because as you point out it is an innovative, thought-provoking design concept. I guess the thing they hate is how did it wind up getting shoehorned into some category to race in ALMS/Grand Am/USCR events when other cars, much more in line with the rules have not been allowed to race? Anyway, it is here and it doesn't seem to going away so I guess we just learn to deal with it.

DK

Don't forget, it was originally designed to race in the IndyCar series. The fact it's gone from it's original concept to racing at Le Mans and ALMS/Grand Am/USCR, says something about how innovative the car is.

dxk1 · 5 Sep 2013, 17:19 (Ref:3299565)

Quote:

Originally Posted by bjohnsonsmith

Don't forget, it was originally designed to race in the IndyCar series. The fact it's gone from it's original concept to racing at Le Mans and ALMS/Grand Am/USCR, says something about how innovative the car is.

I guess that's my point. Many people hate the DW because it wound up here instead of somewhere else and they wish it had wound up anywhere but here. It's an interesting concept. I don't really think it belongs here either, but at this point, I don't think it's worth worrying about any more and I'm willing to just live with it here and see how it does going forward.

DK

miatanut · 5 Sep 2013, 18:13 (Ref:3299595)

Quote:

Originally Posted by dxk1

I wonder how many people actually "hate" this car rather than just hate the idea of it running as a sportcar in this particular series. I would venture to guess that most people don't actually hate the car because as you point out it is an innovative, thought-provoking design concept. I guess the thing they hate is how did it wind up getting shoehorned into some category to race in ALMS/Grand Am/USCR events when other cars, much more in line with the rules have not been allowed to race? Anyway, it is here and it doesn't seem to going away so I guess we just learn to deal with it.

DK

As a kid in the '70's, I got to enjoy all kinds of funky stuff in sportcar racing. Sportscars where the place people could try out stuff they couldn't race elsewhere because to some degree there was a 'run what ya brung' attitude. For me, this is a little bit of sportscar racing going back to its roots.

rustyfan · 5 Sep 2013, 19:16 (Ref:3299615)

I have to admit, with the coupé version the DW is starting to grow on me.

Then again I've always preferred sportscars that have a roof, so I'm easy to please..

optica · 5 Sep 2013, 20:25 (Ref:3299644)

Expect this will launch a few more comments....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8J_1hh2tStE

David Land · 5 Sep 2013, 20:50 (Ref:3299656)

Quote:

Originally Posted by optica

Expect this will launch a few more comments....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8J_1hh2tStE

First comment, and I noticed this at Indy, Kat is picking up an American accent.

Number 2 is the side pods seem very similar to the DW-12.

And finally I am shocked that I actually kind of like this car, they need to keep the black.

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