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12 Oct 2004, 13:17 (Ref:1122146)
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Well done Ralf!
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Someone had to say it. Great effort 2nd race back!  The williams has been nowhere this year, but Ralfie boy beat both Honda's fair & square. The Mark Waugh of F1 has one more chance to win another race in his career. Go Ralf! 
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12 Oct 2004, 13:37 (Ref:1122166)
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Well done!! 2nd only to big bro in the race
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12 Oct 2004, 13:59 (Ref:1122190)
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He drove well. He gained in Q because of the previous race, but was fast all race long.
Patrick Head said the team has been comlaining that Ralf is leaving because he is a pleasure to work with at the moment. |
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12 Oct 2004, 14:24 (Ref:1122214)
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Short memories, eh. Does it only take seven races to forget what people are like?
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12 Oct 2004, 14:39 (Ref:1122234)
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For all that even I thought Ralf did well on Sunday there's always the question of why he & Montoya could not do it for the rest of the season - it seems unlikely that the car has got that much better suddenly and to have more to do with Ralf wanting to impress his new bosses on home ground
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12 Oct 2004, 14:55 (Ref:1122255)
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Ralf did brilliantly on Sunday, but you still get the impression that something on Montoya's side of the garage has gone off the boil since Ralf came back. Not to take anything away from RS - a fantastic drive!
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12 Oct 2004, 14:59 (Ref:1122257)
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After allowing himself to be wound up (again) by JPM earlier this year, Ralf began to look convincing before his shunt. (Canada, for example)
Whilst the jury is out on his mental attitude, my gut feeling is that Ralf, when he does get his act together, is one of the top three or five out there. Toyota will make genuine progress with Gascoyne, Ralf and Trulli. |
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12 Oct 2004, 16:38 (Ref:1122353)
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There have been times this year where the Williams has been pretty competitive, so the 2nd place isn't an absolute shock to me, but Ralf most certainly deserves kudos for a terrific result.
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12 Oct 2004, 16:57 (Ref:1122367)
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Great race by Ralf but lets just remember he is inconsistent don't expect to me mifted he dosn't climb on to the poduim at Sao paulo.
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12 Oct 2004, 17:19 (Ref:1122398)
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Effectively he got this great result more due to a poor result in China than anything else, as that gave him a chance to qualify late and palce the car up the grid as the track dried. Then again, the poor finishing position in question was due to the blameless accident with DC, so I can't begrudge him it. It's good to see him back, and he looks to be on strong form. Maybe he can get the job done at Toyota next year.
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12 Oct 2004, 17:25 (Ref:1122404)
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Ralf has looked refreshed, eager and very positive since his return. It's great to see, especially after such a traumatic accident.
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12 Oct 2004, 19:01 (Ref:1122497)
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Whilst it is all very well applauding Ralfs japan performance (and he was excellent), let's look at the bigger picture.
That was his first podium in 14 months. So don't be that surprised if I'm not impressed overall. |
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12 Oct 2004, 19:05 (Ref:1122502)
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He did finish on the podium in Canada before being disqualified.
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12 Oct 2004, 19:08 (Ref:1122506)
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...disqualified for something that showed no real speed gain.
I didn't expect Ralf to come back and be on the podium this year at all so congrats on a good drive! |
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12 Oct 2004, 19:14 (Ref:1122514)
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It must be something in the Schumacher blood!
If you remember Michael on his come back, he came back even stronger! |
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12 Oct 2004, 19:20 (Ref:1122519)
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Yes, but as much as the illegalities on the Williams in Canada were probably no real gain, it still puts the question mark next to his podium.
On his day, Ralf is unbeatable and possibly even faster than his brother. But those days come once every 20 race weekends. 2003 was a great example of this. One minute he was qualifying 17th at Malaysia, the next blowing the field away at Magny Cours. He veers from astonishing to appalling in a most alarming fashion. |
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12 Oct 2004, 19:57 (Ref:1122554)
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I was never a fan of RS, still am not but he drove an excellent race in Japan. While Monty is crying about unfair treatment RS seems to have come back with one goal and that is racing. Good job.
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12 Oct 2004, 23:20 (Ref:1122731)
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Ralf drove a very steady, sensible race, in a car performing on the day. Good for him and good for Williams.
JPM is, (IMO), a driver that veers from, nearly astonishing, to alarmingly appalling, in less time than it takes me to crack an egg. Well done Ralf. |
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12 Oct 2004, 23:49 (Ref:1122743)
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Usually Montoya posts very average laps in FP1 (slower than Ralf) and then steadily improves to FP2 (usually faster than Ralf). In qualifying, Montoya has held a slight edge over the season. The improvement of Monty's performance over the race weekend can be attributed to him benefitting from Ralf's setup. I am not just making this up. Monty has publicly acknowledged that they missed Ralf's experience in setup during the time he was away. Here in Japan, he must have pretty much raced with his FP1 setup and so fared poorly. Ralf must have had a decent setup as a baseline and benefitted. Ralf also benefited from ideal track position during QLF2. But Monty's sliding around in QLF2 on slicks on a soaking wet raod was fun to watch - the car stepped out on him big time and still he was 10 secs quicker than Bruni who was on Intermediates. Awesome! |
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13 Oct 2004, 03:26 (Ref:1122827)
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Very well done indeed Ralf !!
I did not expect to see him come back so soon in full form, after the accident at the USGP. It will be interesting to watch him race next season if the Toyota is up to par.
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13 Oct 2004, 04:10 (Ref:1122850)
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Both Williams drivers have been a massive disappointment this season. Ralf has long suffered from 'only when I am in the mood', and more recently the jumping ship Montoya has adopted the same policy.
That said, great drive by Ralf in Japan, and I hope its a sign of more to come. Off topic, but on current form Monty is going to have his butt handed to him next season, so he better pull his finger out as well. |
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13 Oct 2004, 06:22 (Ref:1122892)
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Ditto Wrexie; overall this season has showed that running (since the very beginning) leaving drivers is not a good policy.
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Button has had a very good season, after having told BAR in februari that he was planning to leave. |
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13 Oct 2004, 11:40 (Ref:1123098)
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February? That's news to me. I'm sure he must've reconsidered at some point, especially as Williams flopped and BAR exceeded even DR's hopes.
Ralf and Montoya are both inconsistant by their natures, but Montoya seems to have more good days as a whole, although there are some tracks, most notably Imola, where he's never been competitive. Setup is his big weakness, so I hope for his and McLaren's sake that Kimi (or Wurz if they get to run 3 in Friday practice) are strong in this area. |
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