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Old 17 Mar 2015, 13:49 (Ref:3516310)   #1
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'Corrected' 2015 cars

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So I just saw this lovely picture of Sainz at Melbourne kicking up a load of sparks:



And thought i'd have a go at 'correcting' it, if you will... ie. lower/wider rear wing, fatter rear tyres, and a better looking front wing:



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Old 17 Mar 2015, 14:38 (Ref:3516334)   #2
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Razor should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridRazor should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridRazor should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
Almost looking like the previous generation areo cars. (which are sorely missed IMO) If only the brought that kind of areo and the use of 1000bhp screaming engines. *Sighs*
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Old 17 Mar 2015, 15:28 (Ref:3516348)   #3
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Yeh! They look quite like the 2000 cars, don't they.

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Old 17 Mar 2015, 18:27 (Ref:3516444)   #4
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Be careful what you wish for. More aero usually equals duller racing
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Old 17 Mar 2015, 18:36 (Ref:3516450)   #5
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The cars still struggle to follow eachother.

Honestly, drop the DRS, give us nice looking cars again, and i'd be happy. I'm fine with the tyres.

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Old 17 Mar 2015, 20:55 (Ref:3516525)   #6
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The cars still struggle to follow eachother.

Honestly, drop the DRS, give us nice looking cars again, and i'd be happy. I'm fine with the tyres.

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So we go back in time and change things...everyone was happy with how things were then?
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Old 17 Mar 2015, 21:01 (Ref:3516529)   #7
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I've been watching since 1998, and honestly, I did enjoy those races more.

But, that's besides the point, the tyres play a pretty crucial role now. Certainly more instrumental now than then, so there'd be a difference.

Anyway, this wasn't really the debate, it was more just aesthetics

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Old 17 Mar 2015, 21:20 (Ref:3516534)   #8
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And here's a more narrow front wing to go with it (won't let me edit the original post!):



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Old 17 Mar 2015, 22:08 (Ref:3516553)   #9
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The narrow wing reminds me of Champcar.
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Dump the scaffold, front wing should be single element the same width as the distance between the inside of the front rims.
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Old 17 Mar 2015, 22:21 (Ref:3516561)   #11
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That third picture looks spot on. Wheels out in the open, wider tyres, wider rear wing. Great.

Can you edit the chassis to make the tyres further apart to mimic the 2000mm width of the pre 1993 cars?
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Old 17 Mar 2015, 22:38 (Ref:3516576)   #12
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I was actually thinking of trying that. Trying to get my head round just how to tackle it..! Would like to see it, though. I mean, I could easily crudely stretch it horizontally, but it would look a bit cheap.

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Old 17 Mar 2015, 22:39 (Ref:3516577)   #13
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I don't know if the original photo has distorted the true vision, but assuming that it isn't distorted, I had never realised just how much camber they ran on the front wheels. It really is pronounced.
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Really is a pretty crude version, but still... Wider chassis:





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Really is a pretty crude version, but still... Wider chassis:





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Really is a pretty crude version, but still... Wider chassis:





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There we go, Kvyat modification!


Looks much better without the scaffolding!
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I don't understand why they can't design the next rules from the ground up to give back aero passing. The corner speeds were to high for ground effects, so the story went, but now better tyres more downforce are making that happen anyway but destroys the air flow behind the car.
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Having said that, Ferrari's concept did give an idea of what could be done using some of the current baselines.
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Someone wanted to see a black version of the Toro Rosso....



Looks mean!!

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Looks mean!!

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That does look very, very nice.
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The black Toro Rosso is very pretty, I really like the angel of approach to the camera too, it hides all the front wing scaffolding and the car looks much neater!
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It just looks aggressive and beasty!

That's the great thing about the black - even head on it'd still cover up the nasty fiddly bits a little more.

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I did. Looks great.
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