A1 GP first round date change

Bodysnatcher · 25 Jan 2005, 10:50 (Ref:1209361)

according to a story on pitpass http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpa...s_art_id=23352

JP and the Sheikh have come to their senses about the date clash with the Goodwood revival meeting etc (although they don't say as much).

New A1 GP date @ Brands will be weekend of 25th September. Guess I have my problem solved.

Mark Mitchell · 25 Jan 2005, 10:54 (Ref:1209365)

Oh

!

Just filled in (And posted) my form back to Mildred for this event!

As the new date is my Daughters 5th Birthday AND our wedding anniversary, me thinks I will not be coming to play!

Elio · 25 Jan 2005, 11:03 (Ref:1209377)

Woohoo!

Bodysnatcher · 25 Jan 2005, 11:13 (Ref:1209388)

as you say Mark -

but the little one's birthday must come first - wedding anniversary celebration is however optional after 2 years

does this mean you'll try your hand at venturing as far south as Goodwood then?

Mark Mitchell · 25 Jan 2005, 11:23 (Ref:1209398)

Goodwood doesn't interest me in the slightest - and I know I haven't been so I don't know etc.

However, I am keen to try to make the effort to visit Brands this year - not for a major event - but a BRSCC SE clubbie or something.....if you'll have me!

**BertMk2** · 25 Jan 2005, 11:43 (Ref:1209412)

25th? Knackers! Already got a clash that date with SEMSEC and Rallycross.

18th would have been fine.

**Stephen Green** · 25 Jan 2005, 11:48 (Ref:1209419)

Actually the press release on the MSV website says that is exactly why the date has been changed, to avoid clashing with Goodwood.

**Stephen Green** · 25 Jan 2005, 12:00 (Ref:1209431)

Guys, I am moving this thread to National and International Single Seaters where it will attrack a wider audience. I will leave a redirect here though for those who have already contributed...

Stephen.

bradrive · 25 Jan 2005, 12:33 (Ref:1209451)

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Originally Posted by BertMk2

25th? Knackers! Already got a clash that date with SEMSEC and Rallycross.

18th would have been fine.

Same date as GP2 in Bahrain and GP in Brasil. Not good. take note JP and SM!

Mark Mitchell · 25 Jan 2005, 12:39 (Ref:1209458)

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Originally Posted by bradrive

Same date as GP2 in Bahrain and GP in Brasil. Not good. take note JP and SM!

I don't think JP would have really worried too much about events taking place outside the UK!

JP and Sheik Whatsisface have seen sense by avoiding the clash with Goodwood (And Silverstone?) which would have: 1: had an impact (Possibly) on the number of available officials able to attend and 2: (From a Business way of thinking) reduced number of "Punters" paying to visit Brands.

By revising the date, many more people will be able to get their fix of both major UK motorsport events plus MSV will be financially better off as well.

Personally, if Motor sport venues are making more money, then I like to think in the long run it's benefits me as a Marshal.

Peter Scillitoe · 25 Jan 2005, 12:42 (Ref:1209460)

This change would appear to have wiped out the MGCC meeting which was scheduled for that date!!

Sad.

Peter Scillitoe

**Stephen Green** · 25 Jan 2005, 12:43 (Ref:1209462)

Bradrive, take a look at the press release on the MSV website www.motorsportvision.co.uk and you will see that in fact it doesn't clash with Brazil as the races there don't start until 18.00 UK time!

Mathias · 25 Jan 2005, 13:37 (Ref:1209533)

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Originally Posted by Mark Mitchell

As the new date is my Daughters 5th Birthday AND our wedding anniversary, me thinks I will not be coming to play!

Sounds to me like the perfect anniversary and birthday gift rolled into one. Wife and child are bound to have a terrific day, surely.

Alternatively, drop 'em off at Bluewater with your credit cards for the day.

bradrive · 25 Jan 2005, 14:22 (Ref:1209579)

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Originally Posted by Stephen Green

Bradrive, take a look at the press release on the MSV website www.motorsportvision.co.uk and you will see that in fact it doesn't clash with Brazil as the races there don't start until 18.00 UK time!

There may have been people from GP2 that were interested in working in A1GP during the winter...

Rob29 · 25 Jan 2005, 14:26 (Ref:1209583)

18th also clashed with DTM at Avignon.Which is how DTM crept into this thread-non-avaliability of DTM drivers for A1GP.

Mark Mitchell · 25 Jan 2005, 14:30 (Ref:1209587)

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Originally Posted by Mathias

Sounds to me like the perfect anniversary and birthday gift rolled into one. Wife and child are bound to have a terrific day, surely.

Alternatively, drop 'em off at Bluewater with your credit cards for the day.

I like the idea!! (Well first one anyway!!)

John Watson · 25 Jan 2005, 20:43 (Ref:1209827)

Once again a small Club has been kicked in the teeth by the "Big Boys".

The weekend of September 24/25th had been allocated to the MG Car Club for their end of season meeting at Brands Hatch with many of the Clubs Championships reaching their conclusion.

This change of date may be pleasing to lots of people, but it has now given the MG Car Club an enormous problem in trying to rearrange their 2005 programme as the various Championships had finalised their programme. Never mind the great expense that this will cost the Club. Did I hear something recently sounding something like "We want to encourage Club Racing at our Venues".

I will not say any more at the moment, my temper and frustrations need to cool, but when our problems have been sorted out, I will post the changes that have been forced upon us.

I should point out that this is my own posting and is not in any shape or form an Official Statement of the MG Car Club.

John Watson

Kicking-back · 25 Jan 2005, 20:45 (Ref:1209828)

I can understand your frustration, John, but this decision was always going to happen and someone was always going to lose out.

With all due respect, if Brands Hatch had lost out on the A1GP meeting, the consequences would have been bigger.

**Asp** · 26 Jan 2005, 12:26 (Ref:1210279)

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Originally Posted by Kicking-back

With all due respect, if Brands Hatch had lost out on the A1GP meeting, the consequences would have been bigger.

But that wasn't going to happen, it had a date already!

Ian Sowman · 26 Jan 2005, 13:21 (Ref:1210306)

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Originally Posted by Asp

But that wasn't going to happen, it had a date already!

But for MSV it makes more commercial sense to have it on the revised date - it is a business!

However, perhaps Mr Palmer may be able to make a goodwill payment to the MGCC to cover their costs in changing the calendar?

Kicking-back · 26 Jan 2005, 13:40 (Ref:1210318)

If the MGCC sent a letter to Sheik Makthoum explaining their frustration, you never know where it might lead.

Worth a try!

Ian Sowman · 26 Jan 2005, 13:50 (Ref:1210329)

Perhaps an MGCC Invitation race on the support bill?

Gaz · 26 Jan 2005, 13:57 (Ref:1210336)

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Originally Posted by Ian Sowman

Perhaps an MGCC Invitation race on the support bill?

No offence but this is going to be a major international meeting. Putting the MGCC on the support bill, however entertaining they might be will just dilute this.

Remember the April F3 meeting at Silverstone last year? I know the weather was **** but for a major national race meeting the support races were hardly top notch and this was reflected in both the crowd size and the many comments I've read in the publications about it. I think it was voted in motorsportnews' top 10 disappointments of 2004 due to both the weather and the support cast.

i've nothing against clubby racing, it just doesn't in the main interest me and major international and national meetings need top notch, professional run championships not the clubbies.

I'd agree entirely with Mr Palmer or the arab geezer dipping their hands in their very deep pockets and helping the MGCC out though.

Ian Sowman · 26 Jan 2005, 14:00 (Ref:1210338)

I was being slightly tongue in cheek...

But if you're saying that the MGCC isn't capable of professionally running its championships, I'm sure there are plenty that would like to take exception!

Kicking-back · 26 Jan 2005, 14:01 (Ref:1210340)

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Originally Posted by Gaz

I'd agree entirely with Mr Palmer or the arab geezer....

Surely he deserves the respect of his name too.....

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