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Old 23 Apr 2010, 14:19 (Ref:2678459)   #1
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Best overtaking move in F1 history
Simple. Everyone nominate a driver / race / details, and we discuss those moves!

My first nominee, I know there are better, and they will be mentioned.

Mark Webber, Chinese GP, 2009, v. Jenson Button, round those sweeping turns at the back of the track, in the wet. Stunning.
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Old 23 Apr 2010, 14:22 (Ref:2678463)   #2
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Mansel v. Piquet British GP in to stowe. cant remember the year.
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Old 24 Apr 2010, 00:42 (Ref:2678797)   #3
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Mansel v. Piquet British GP in to stowe. cant remember the year.
This was my first thought to, because of the partisan crowd roaring in the background above the engine noise, it gave made the hair on your neck stand up. In retrospect, probably not the most sensational bit of race carft ever, but a very memorable one because of the crowd, and I was an ocean away and watching it on television.
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Old 24 Apr 2010, 01:03 (Ref:2678808)   #4
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Always fond of Montoya at the bus stop...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giZu7-A2yS0
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Always fond of Montoya at the bus stop...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giZu7-A2yS0
That is great move, cause Montoya before the entire S-bend turn is completely behind Schumacher and appears near him only mid-turn.
Also liked Montoya's take on Schumacher in Nurburgring at Dunlop curve 2003 (if I'm correct). Haven't seen anybody overtaking anyone there.
I also know the one in Hockenheim 2004 where Sato was battling Trulli before the 180degree. But just before the corner Webber took a risky pass and got past Trulli, too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4sIZjVFZu8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uXaJzCmauM
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That is great move, cause Montoya before the entire S-bend turn is completely behind Schumacher and appears near him only mid-turn.
Also liked Montoya's take on Schumacher in Nurburgring at Dunlop curve 2003 (if I'm correct). Haven't seen anybody overtaking anyone there.
I also know the one in Hockenheim 2004 where Sato was battling Trulli before the 180degree. But just before the corner Webber took a risky pass and got past Trulli, too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4sIZjVFZu8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uXaJzCmauM
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That first video - Is that a young Sebastian Vettel in the Ferrari pit at 1:47 in the video???
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I'm not a fan of him personally, but Nelson Piquet's move on Ayrton Senna at Hungary in 1986 was unbelievably good. Great car control and fantastic pass on a guy who was, if I recall, pretty good at making his car very wide!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gkirs...eature=related

As far as the greatest overtaker is concerned I'd go for Nigel Mansell. Silverstone 1987 was good, as was his move on Senna at Hungary in 1989 and the pass around the outside of Gerhard Berger at Mexico in 1990 (on old tyres!).
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I'm not a fan of him personally, but Nelson Piquet's move on Ayrton Senna at Hungary in 1986 was unbelievably good. Great car control and fantastic pass on a guy who was, if I recall, pretty good at making his car very wide!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gkirs...eature=related

As far as the greatest overtaker is concerned I'd go for Nigel Mansell. Silverstone 1987 was good, as was his move on Senna at Hungary in 1989 and the pass around the outside of Gerhard Berger at Mexico in 1990 (on old tyres!).
Totally agree with the Piquet on Senna move. Without doubt the best move ive ever seen, nothing else compares.
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Totally agree with the Piquet on Senna move. Without doubt the best move ive ever seen, nothing else compares.
At the risk of bandwagon jumping me too, awesome!
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I'm not a fan of him personally, but Nelson Piquet's move on Ayrton Senna at Hungary in 1986 was unbelievably good. Great car control and fantastic pass on a guy who was, if I recall, pretty good at making his car very wide!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gkirs...eature=related

As far as the greatest overtaker is concerned I'd go for Nigel Mansell. Silverstone 1987 was good, as was his move on Senna at Hungary in 1989 and the pass around the outside of Gerhard Berger at Mexico in 1990 (on old tyres!).
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At the risk of bandwagon jumping me too, awesome!
Agreed. And if anyone remember it was on his second try...
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And at the risk of it seeming like I didn't consult the past much, Button on Buemi- Interlagos 2009.
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I suppose moves can never get beyond a certain point of greatness, because there's a limit of adhesion. Some of the moves that were nearly great led to a binned car in the wall and no kudos.
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Jacques Villeneuve on Michael Schumacher. Around the outside of the Parabolica curve, 1996 Portuguese GP.
Is it me or have the FIA/FOM destroyed this thread, so frustrating that we can't link to videos of the more recent examples
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Is it me or have the FIA/FOM destroyed this thread, so frustrating that we can't link to videos of the more recent examples
I have a Damon Hill 1996 VHS somewhere with pit radio and everything in that Estoril race, fantastic stuff.

JV: "I am going to try around the outside"

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I have a Damon Hill 1996 VHS
Sorry to go off topic, but how ancient does VHS sound now!!
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Mansell on Berger, Mexico City 1990

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Mainly for Murray's high pitch.
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Mansell on Berger, Mexico City 1990

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Mainly for Murray's high pitch.
Agreed, simply stunning.

One that i really stands out from recent times was Juan Pablo v Kimi at Hockenheim in 2002 iirc. went on for half a lap, most enjoyable.
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One that i really stands out from recent times was Juan Pablo v Kimi at Hockenheim in 2002 iirc. went on for half a lap, most enjoyable.
That's when Tilke's butchering of Hockenheim proved its worth.
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I was never really that impressed by this. A far better example of a similar thing is:
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By far.

I go for the Piquet on Senna at Hungaroring. Great stuff. As I am sure I have said in previous threads
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I was never really that impressed by this. A far better example of a similar thing is:By far.

I go for the Piquet on Senna at Hungaroring. Great stuff. As I am sure I have said in previous threads
Agreed on all counts.

Of course, I can't go without mentioning JPM on Schumi at Interlagos in 2001, just because of what it meant.
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