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19 Jun 2004, 00:14 (Ref:1008368)
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Jags Top Speeds...
depressingly slow again...
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19 Jun 2004, 00:40 (Ref:1008380)
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speed trap figures ?
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19 Jun 2004, 12:09 (Ref:1008619)
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yep... from www.formula1.com for Fridays practice. Fisi must have got a runup out of the carpark!
Pos/Car/Driver/TimeOfDay/Speed 1 11 Giancarlo Fisichella 14:37:22 347.9 2 38 Ricardo Zonta 15:02:22 345.8 3 12 Felipe Massa 14:35:54 345.7 4 6 Kimi Räikkönen 14:28:56 345.4 5 35 Anthony Davidson 15:02:25 345.2 6 16 Cristiano da Matta 14:38:32 345.1 7 3 Juan Pablo Montoya 14:35:55 345.0 8 9 Jenson Button 14:58:55 344.8 9 4 Ralf Schumacher 14:31:40 344.0 10 2 Rubens Barrichello 14:31:24 343.2 11 17 Olivier Panis 14:38:33 342.9 12 10 Takuma Sato 14:11:59 342.0 13 37 Bjorn Wirdheim 14:48:56 342.0 14 5 David Coulthard 14:03:48 341.0 15 1 Michael Schumacher 14:39:54 340.8 16 39 Timo Glock 14:35:57 339.7 17 18 Nick Heidfeld 14:48:03 339.1 18 15 Christian Klien 14:33:22 337.9 19 7 Jarno Trulli 14:56:40 337.5 20 8 Fernando Alonso 14:04:04 336.0 21 19 Giorgio Pantano 14:40:13 335.5 22 14 Mark Webber 14:30:15 335.2 23 20 Gianmaria Bruni 14:45:03 333.4 24 21 Zsolt Baumgartner 14:26:43 330.1 25 40 Bas Leinders 14:04:25 327.9 |
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19 Jun 2004, 12:16 (Ref:1008622)
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Nope, just optimised for the straight, not the twisties.
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19 Jun 2004, 13:05 (Ref:1008650)
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You'll tend to see a bigger spread of straight-line speeds here than at any other track on the calendar.
Mainly due, of course, to the choice of going low downforce and quick on the straight, or higher downforce for the infield. |
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19 Jun 2004, 13:48 (Ref:1008671)
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Interesting to see both Saubers so high on that list. The Toyotas seem to be fairing quite well as well. Who else was surprised to see a Mercedes engine 4th?
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19 Jun 2004, 14:02 (Ref:1008675)
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Raikkonen was experimenting with VERY low downforce to cope with the down on power Merc engine.
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19 Jun 2004, 15:06 (Ref:1008693)
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Well, Mark is supposed to have an exclusive new improved updated engine in his Jaguar compared to the old block in Klien's car, so i would expect his car to be quicker...?
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19 Jun 2004, 15:42 (Ref:1008711)
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Guys I would not worry too much about top speeds. Trimming off wing will give more on top speeds than will an improvement in hp. What is concerning is that they are not any faster in the slower parts of the track. The low top speeds tell me that they are running more wing. The car is obviously hard to drive, or to set up as evidenced by his off, again.
Look at the company that surrounds Webbers top speeds, eg. Sato who was third. Speeds Last edited by neilap; 19 Jun 2004 at 15:46. |
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19 Jun 2004, 16:09 (Ref:1008721)
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Sauber having the Ferrari power are always likely to feauture in the top half when it comes to top speeds but i guess BMW and MERC will be saving their engines as the last sector is quite harsh on engines
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20 Jun 2004, 02:00 (Ref:1009110)
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More than 340kmh for JPM in Qualifyings...BMW is definetly not short on grunt
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20 Jun 2004, 05:44 (Ref:1009148)
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But its not just power determining the speed trap numbers, having the aerodynamics of a housebrick like a 2004 Minardi will need 1,000bhp to overcome....
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20 Jun 2004, 08:53 (Ref:1009204)
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Yeah..Ferrari seem to run a decent amount of downforce to be fast in the straight yet respectable in the in-fields..
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20 Jun 2004, 10:06 (Ref:1009238)
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Yeh, as for the new and improved engine for Mark, he's slowest out of all 3 drivers. (Jag)
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20 Jun 2004, 10:14 (Ref:1009247)
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Massa is the king of the hill .in terms of top speed ..
341.9 . +1.1 compared to JPM .. |
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20 Jun 2004, 11:18 (Ref:1009300)
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Let's hope he rememebrs to turn in afterwasrds, and doesn't have a suspension failure a lá Canada
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20 Jun 2004, 12:26 (Ref:1009406)
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hardly Marks fault Boots
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20 Jun 2004, 12:29 (Ref:1009410)
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I think Boots was referring to Massa.
In any case it's a bit churlish. |
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20 Jun 2004, 16:07 (Ref:1009500)
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Now that sort of information is detailed! JPM wasn't that noticeable in S3.
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