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Old 14 Feb 2008, 12:31 (Ref:2128651)   #26
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Yes, Mosler, the XK120 was a pretty lovely looking car.

The first time I saw one was in 1952: temporary import by a US entertainer.

Although the car was first made in 1948, for years, they all went to to the USA!

Was offered a white Roadster with a brand new Jag factory engine in 1960 for £120: where did a 19 year old earning £9/week find that sort of cash?

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Old 14 Feb 2008, 18:40 (Ref:2128944)   #27
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Colin Chapman was way ahead of the opposition with the Lotus Elite - if only he could have sold them cheaper than an E type Jaguar!
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Old 14 Feb 2008, 19:30 (Ref:2129004)   #28
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Shame he didn't think of supplying oilskins as standard!
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Old 14 Feb 2008, 19:38 (Ref:2129020)   #29
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I think that's a tad unfair - maybe gross exageration?
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Old 14 Feb 2008, 21:01 (Ref:2129092)   #30
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Not really: the doors didn't fit and the car leaked like a sieve.

A business acquaintance of mine in Norwich used to be a senior Marketing Manager for Lotus when they moved to Hethel.

On his desk, he had a framed Brockelbank cartoon, showinga stream of trucks delivering raw materials to a factory complete with smokestacks, which was built right next to a steep cliff.

As the cars came out of the factory: they fell down the cliff and were destroyed. The cartoon was intended to represent modern planned obsolescence.

Brockelbank gave the signed original to Chapman at the request of one of the other directors: 'cos it typified his view of owners. He totally hated them!

Really, the original Elite was a de-tuned race car.The Climax engine was problematical too.

Not actually suitable for road use day in day out.

The E Type, of course, was.
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Old 15 Feb 2008, 07:59 (Ref:2129382)   #31
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Haven't taken ours out in the wet! Hope its been sorted over the years. Having had several assorted Lotus over the years nothing can surprise -I hope!
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Old 15 Feb 2008, 08:32 (Ref:2129401)   #32
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Don't forget your wellies when you do!


Don't get me wrong. The original Elite encapsulated Chapman's design ethos: light; excellent roadholding; good performance mainly because of the power to weight ratio.

"Chunky" tended to design just to last one Grande Epreuve: before things broke!

Which was not a lot of use in a road car!

Unfortunately, it also pointed up the flaws in Lotus attempts at even small volume production.

Still, as you say, after all these years it ought to be marginally sorted by this time!

Perhaps the Elan was a more acceptable "Everyday" car: once Lotus had sorted out minor irritations like the read driveshaft bungies tying themselves in knots if you went away from stationary too dramatically!

And the fuel frothing because the Rubber O ring plates were so badly designed. Where the carbs hand't actually fallen off as the manifold fractured due to the weight of a pair of 40 DCOEs shaking like a wet jelly!

Same prob with the Lotus Cortina until the bonded joint plates arrived.
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Old 1 Aug 2008, 15:27 (Ref:2261716)   #33
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Old 23 Sep 2008, 04:58 (Ref:2295790)   #34
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Channel 4 are having another go at this: http://www.channel4.com/4car/gl/gall...ature/23840/11 You can vote for your choice, but only if it agrees with theirs!
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Old 23 Sep 2008, 20:10 (Ref:2296393)   #35
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Old 23 Sep 2008, 20:20 (Ref:2296401)   #36
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The E-Type and the MGB are in the '70s. The best versions were in the '60s. The '70s-'80s list is very long, the sixties too short. Dimbos.
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Old 2 Nov 2008, 22:40 (Ref:2326448)   #37
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surely jaguar xjs should be on there.. at least as high as the XJ6 as it was the 'car that saved jaguar'
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Old 3 Nov 2008, 06:36 (Ref:2326650)   #38
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Not for mine - it was after all the car the spy photographer dismissed as "surely they won't be making that ugly thing" wasn't it? What car in the list of 20 would you exclude?
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Old 3 Nov 2008, 08:04 (Ref:2326690)   #39
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i would go for one of the not totally british ones - nissan bluebird or ford GT40
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Old 4 Nov 2008, 05:50 (Ref:2327587)   #40
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Fair comment particularly the Bluebird!
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Old 5 Nov 2008, 22:01 (Ref:2329047)   #41
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it depends whether you count british as made in britain or owned by british
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Old 6 Nov 2008, 01:35 (Ref:2329168)   #42
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How can you have a list like this without including a Morgan? I once had a 1960s Morgan Plus 4 with the Triumph TR2 engine and though it was fantastic at the time.
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surely jaguar xjs should be on there.. at least as high as the XJ6 as it was the 'car that saved jaguar'
I like the XJS, but the XJ6 is a proper Jaguar, it is what they do best.
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Because Richard Hammond is a fan of them.
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I have to admit that it is a deterrent, but I went to school in Malvern and my my first sports car was a Morgan Plus-4, which I collected from the factory, so you have to understand my enthusiasm. For the record, my son also went to Malvern for a while and the son and daughter of a good friend of mine are there now, so the links are very strong. Incidentally, said son was in the Top Gear audience once and said the Hamster is a complete poser.

After that revelation, I shall be writing to Morgan suggesting that they lend me a car for at least a week; a year would be nice...
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Greatest British Car well that would have to be the Vauxhall Cavalier, better know to us Aussies as the Holden Camira. Was it as great a success in the UK as it was here?
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Greatest British Car well that would have to be the Vauxhall Cavalier, better know to us Aussies as the Holden Camira. Was it as great a success in the UK as it was here?
The Cavalier was a success in the UK and although not really exciting was a good reliable workhorse that was cheap to run and was the mainstay of many a reps cars for years. There are still loads kicking about.
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The Cavalier was a success in the UK and although not really exciting was a good reliable workhorse that was cheap to run and was the mainstay of many a reps cars for years. There are still loads kicking about.
The first Camira over here won Car of the Year in 1982. However they had a dreadful name here and where never the success they should have been for many reasons mostly due to awful reliability etc.

I do remeber though that when I was running a workshop for a leading Holden dealer that we used to get a Convetable Cavalier in for servicing, it belong to the wife of a former Managing Director of Vaxhaull. The only time I could readly get the mechanics to do the worst jobs in when was when I had that car there, they used to beg not to be made to work on it.
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