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Old 11 Feb 2010, 16:56 (Ref:2631514)   #751
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Wouldn't that mean having the TV crew there for two days rather than one. It would have advantages, especially if it meant that live ITV1 coverage could come back ...
AFAIK they're there on Saturday anyways, so I wouldn't imagine it would crank the OB cost up all that much.

I'm not sure that it would lead to live ITV1 coverage at every round, but possibly some on alternate days ?
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Old 11 Feb 2010, 17:20 (Ref:2631524)   #752
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This came up earlier in the thread I think, there's only a small TV crew at the circuit on a Saturday, nothing like the personnel that are there on a Sunday. Alan Gow has stated a few times that getting decent coverage on the Saturday would be prohibitively expensive, so I'm pretty certain it's not going to happen.
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Old 11 Feb 2010, 17:57 (Ref:2631540)   #753
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There's only a skeleton crew there on Saturday. Usually one roving cameraman/soundman in the paddock to record the interviews to tape and a few riggers finishing off the trackside camera towers.

Showing live qualifying would mean manning every camera position, plus director, producer and all the other production crew, plus of course the satellite uplink time. That's far from a minor increase in costs.
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Old 11 Feb 2010, 18:47 (Ref:2631561)   #754
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Not to mention the fact that many of the ITV crew (certainly the presenters anyway) are engaged elsewhere on several of the Saturdays.
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Old 11 Feb 2010, 20:12 (Ref:2631652)   #755
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So who are the people operating the cameras on Saturdays for the races that are recorded for Motorsport UK etc... ? Isn't the entire event covered by the same production company ?
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Old 11 Feb 2010, 20:24 (Ref:2631665)   #756
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I don't know who provides that coverage - presumably the same people - but I go to most of the events on both days and can say for definite that none of the camera positions are manned for most of the Saturday (there's usually someone in one of them for the actual qualifying session, which is the footage that Louise does her qualifying round up over). Given that the Saturday races happen after BTCC qualifying, they probably keep that post manned. There's also a small crew in the pitlane doing interviews. That's pretty much it.

Remember there's only usually 2 or 3 races on the Saturday, I would imagine the vast majority of what's in Motorsport UK comes from the Sunday (don't forget, the live ITV broadcast doesn't show every race from the Sunday).
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Old 12 Feb 2010, 15:57 (Ref:2632175)   #757
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So it's been a week since this speculation came up, come on TcT, you've got everyone's attention, now deliever.
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Old 12 Feb 2010, 16:25 (Ref:2632189)   #758
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Some people are soo impatient, calm down James

It's obviously going to be some sort of driver/team confirmation, as we're too close to the start of the season for any regs changes, unless they're for 2011 of course, but I doubt that'd be the earth shattering news. As my Mum always said when I asked if dinner was ready, "It'll be ready when it's ready"
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Old 12 Feb 2010, 16:38 (Ref:2632197)   #759
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Sorry, it's just my cynicism over TcT. To be frank, there are more reliable touring car sources out there...
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Old 12 Feb 2010, 17:17 (Ref:2632226)   #760
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So it's been a week since this speculation came up, come on TcT, you've got everyone's attention, now deliever.
Perhaps they are waiting for the story to be confirmed? Until then, like the rest of us, you will have to wait...
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Sorry, it's just my cynicism over TcT. To be frank, there are more reliable touring car sources out there...
There are??? Point me in their direction!
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Old 12 Feb 2010, 17:25 (Ref:2632243)   #761
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Old 12 Feb 2010, 17:29 (Ref:2632253)   #762
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No one new then Jonathan?
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Old 12 Feb 2010, 17:45 (Ref:2632266)   #763
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autosport.com is usually on the mark... though they do take their time before publishing. If you want news fast, go elsewhere but expect it to be unreliable at times.

Rumors are what keeps us in business, what else would we talk about for 5 months of the year
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Old 12 Feb 2010, 18:42 (Ref:2632302)   #764
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autosport.com is usually on the mark... though they do take their time before publishing.
I don't know about that. Remember the story they put up a couple of weeks ago about Fiat Punto's in the BTCC, which they failed to even check the most basic details about??
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Old 12 Feb 2010, 19:11 (Ref:2632320)   #765
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Sorry, it's just my cynicism over TcT. To be frank, there are more reliable touring car sources out there...
But you obviously take note in what they say Jamesy-18???

They are all as reliable as one another.

Most of them have printed dodgy stories. As davyboy says, what would you do without them 5 months of the year?
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Old 12 Feb 2010, 19:13 (Ref:2632323)   #766
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I find it rather amusing how TcT end up in the line of fire here without actually being involved in anything.

Not surprised to find Alfa Fan here though, keep it up young boy
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Old 12 Feb 2010, 19:14 (Ref:2632324)   #767
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Autosport online has minimal BTCC coverage outside of race reports, Crash is has more coverage but not by much.

BTCC.net is fine if you want the heavily bias, officially sanctioned version.

BTCC Pages rarely publish anything other than official TOCA supplied press releases. Thanks to politics they will never publish a story which is in the least bit critical of TOCA.


It's odd that many F1 sites, including Autosport and much of the mainstream media, can make a living publishing page after page of rampant speculation and non-stories and no one seems to mind, yet BTCC sites get jumped on for doing a tiny fraction of that.
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Old 12 Feb 2010, 19:24 (Ref:2632329)   #768
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thats because they are pathetic like that, like when people make their series for a game like rFactor and even though its free and free publicity they still threaten law suits, absolutely pathetic.

On another note the new Team Dynamics Civic looks brilliant with the new grill and bits on it
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Old 12 Feb 2010, 19:41 (Ref:2632338)   #769
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Agreed and looks very nice in a base colour of white. Does anyone know if this is a new built car?
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Old 12 Feb 2010, 20:14 (Ref:2632356)   #770
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Remember the story they put up a couple of weeks ago about Fiat Punto's in the BTCC, which they failed to even check the most basic details about??
I don't think that's a fair criticism. I wouldn't expect an Autosport journo to have an intimate knowledge of the technical regs of every series they cover, remember they cover a lot more than just BTCC. If a team tells you they are building a new car it's not an unreasonable assumption that they have done their homework and checked the regs themselves.

Interestingly the story wasn't even questioned by most fans who are likely to have more focused interest in the series.
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Old 13 Feb 2010, 05:22 (Ref:2632557)   #771
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I don't think that's a fair criticism. I wouldn't expect an Autosport journo to have an intimate knowledge of the technical regs of every series they cover, remember they cover a lot more than just BTCC. .
Ordinarily I would agree with you, but the journo who wrote the story was their BTCC specialist 'expert journo' and its pretty much the only series he covers.

A good journalist checks the information given to him and doesn't just blindly write whatever drivel a team will tell him (as in that case).
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Old 13 Feb 2010, 08:27 (Ref:2632578)   #772
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I'm feeling this thread is getting way off topic now with discussions about the media, websites etc. Although BTCC related it doesn't have much relevance to BTCC 2010 rumours.

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Old 13 Feb 2010, 09:09 (Ref:2632586)   #773
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I'm feeling this thread is getting way off topic now with discussions about the media, websites etc. Although BTCC related it doesn't have much relevance to BTCC 2010 rumours.

We normally expect our rumors to evolve into actuality but this year's rumor mill has had a lot more phantom stories and dead ends than usual and its understandable that those of us who snack on hors d'ouevres of information have started to dig deeper to question the source of the ingredients.

In a rather ironic way, its probably the most on-topic bit of the topic... if you know what I mean.
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On another note the new Team Dynamics Civic looks brilliant with the new grill and bits on it
Is there any pictures of this car?
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It's on btcc.net
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