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Old 10 Aug 2017, 01:05 (Ref:3758512)   #1
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HSV Brand To Be Retired?

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A LOT of brand equity built over 30 years erased in a single poof...

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Old 10 Aug 2017, 02:46 (Ref:3758527)   #2
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Yeah, linked story over a month old, rumours have been circulating for a while along with suggestions that RHD Camaro importing is one of the things on the agenda.

Once the last Australian built Commodores are produced (December apparently) I guess there'll be some kind of announcement re the future.

Like everything around the end of vehicle manufacturing in Oz, it'll be the end of a special era whether or not the name is retained.
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It is pretty simple really, the HSV name is operated under licence from Holden, and if it doesn't have value for Holden anymore, then it doesn't exist.
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It is pretty simple really, the HSV name is operated under licence from Holden, and if it doesn't have value for Holden anymore, then it doesn't exist.
Absolutely. Except.. there are thousands of owners out there in consumer land who might just be wondering what's going on with the value of a product not continuing
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HSV was originally built on bad blood, and at the expense of Mr Brock.
Doubt anybody, apart from the real diehards, will really care.
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Old 11 Aug 2017, 10:13 (Ref:3758788)   #6
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It'll probably drive up the prices of the last few from the die hards.
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It'll probably drive up the prices of the last few from the die hards.
Well I have just brought a GTS-R.....
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Old 11 Aug 2017, 11:59 (Ref:3758806)   #8
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Absolutely. Except.. there are thousands of owners out there in consumer land who might just be wondering what's going on with the value of a product not continuing
It's the same for people that bought HDT cars, Tickford cars, FPV etc. Not to mention Saab, Opel or early Renaults before the company pulled out of Oz.

It's just the way these things roll sometimes.
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Even the likes of VW were non-existant for a period of time.
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It's the same for people that bought HDT cars, Tickford cars.....etc......It's just the way these things roll sometimes.
Except HDT still exists and they've brought back Tickford.
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Yeah, linked story over a month old, rumours have been circulating for a while along with suggestions that RHD Camaro importing is one of the things on the agenda.
The circle of life continues...

I have been told that there are lots of Aussie accents in the GM chassis design department now. Some consolation that engineering isn't going to waste.

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Seriously? Can you post some pics in the road car forum sometime? I want the things I can't have the most.
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Doubt anybody, apart from the real diehards, will really care.
Yes, but they mended this by bringing Brock back into the fold. No reason for Brock fans and HDT special vehicle drivers to still have bad blood with HSV.
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Except HDT still exists and they've brought back Tickford.
HDT very different to what it originally was but you're right the brand is still there (after a very long break when it wasn't). Tickford back again after another rather long break.

Point remains though that both ceased, with car owners in a similar situation to HSV if the brand is "retired".

It happens (both Renault and VW came back too) and for all we know may happen with the HSV brand too - however they won't be locally built cars.
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Seriously? Can you post some pics in the road car forum sometime? I want the things I can't have the most.
Check back in October when I get it delivered, customised black with a manual 'box. (Sales rep wanted me to buy a white automatic but preferred the black manual)
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Black with manual is the ONLY choice. I think we're going to be best buds!
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Since Triple Eight has Holden factory support, could they take over Walkinshaw's HSV operation?
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Since Triple Eight has Holden factory support, could they take over Walkinshaw's HSV operation?
The racing deal and the road car deal have always been completely seperate deals, even in the Brock/HDT days
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Since Triple Eight has Holden factory support, could they take over Walkinshaw's HSV operation?
I fail to see how a racing team could have anything to do with a manufacturing operation.

Without Holden cars manufactured to hot up, it is difficult to know what HSV's future might be.

Holden I'd imagine has no desire for it to just be bolt on hot up bits, this HSV retiring.

Walkinshaw Performance has good form for that sort of thing.
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Is there actually a marketing need for a factory-endorsed tuning shop down here in a full import market?

Presumably any go faster parts for Insignia/Commodore with a factory stamp of approval will show up ex-Europe now..
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I'd have thought all European-sourced GM products would have OPC/VXR branding on them too.
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Upon reflection and what others have said, I can see the logic of HSV re-branding to become Walkinshaw Performance. After this year, they're be no different to other companies like Tekno, Tickford, etc.
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Walkinshaw Performance has existed for quite a while already. They planned this out well.
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I'd have thought all European-sourced GM products would have OPC/VXR branding on them too.
Maybe beforehand, but not going forward I wouldn't imagine, given GM selling their European brands Opel & Vauxhall to PSA.
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When does that kick in though?

We already have the new Astra here, with more Euro-GM vehicles (Commodore included), in the offing.
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