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Old 26 Jul 2007, 18:47 (Ref:1974272)   #76
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812-1 Unknown
812-2 Works: Boutsen
812-3 Works: Corrado Fabi
812-4 Unknown
812-5 Earle: Paletti
812-6 Merzario: Trombetti
812-7 Merzario: Necchi
812-8 Marcus Hotz??
812-9 Works: Danner

Unknown in 1981
Works spare
Speed Star: Fujita [all season]
I&I Racing Devt: Nakajima, late March
KK Super Sport Team, late March
Racing Mate Project Team, June

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Old 26 Jul 2007, 21:12 (Ref:1974381)   #77
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March book shows 11 March 812 cars made u list 9 cars
so lets assume
#1 japan
#4 japan
#10 japan
#11 japan
i will guess the early chassis number cars will be the 1st 2 teams to get cars
so assume1 & 4
for Speed Star: Fujita [all season]
I&I Racing Devt: Nakajima, late March
#10 KK Super Sport Team, late March
#11 for Racing Mate Project Team, June

anyone have 822 car list?
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Old 27 Jul 2007, 06:50 (Ref:1974542)   #78
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March 812 - 8 has been found ! Still in mostly original condition, with new bodywork, it will be recomissioned that year. A friend of mine bought the car recently and received documents, telling its history as team car of Franz Konrad (1982), Karl Hasenbichler (Interserie with Audi turbo engine and closed bodywork, 1984 - 1995), private colection in Germany (restoration with orignal BMW engine, 1996 - 2007).
At the forum it was told Franz Konrad used 802's for the 1982 season. Can anyone help with that chassis ? I desperately tried to enclose pictures to my mesage ?! kind regards MB-AC
http://rupert8766.fotopic.net/p3042886.html

The Konrad racing cars taken at Thruxton in 82 by me.
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Old 27 Jul 2007, 07:29 (Ref:1974552)   #79
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those pics show 802 the 812 was driven by
Harald Brutschin, D Franz Konrad Racing March 812 - BMW/Mader
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Old 27 Jul 2007, 08:08 (Ref:1974568)   #80
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Interserie results march 812 audi HSB car raced by karl hasenbichler to win Div2 twice then later car is raced by jochiam Ryshka

http://www.wspr-racing.com/wspr/resu...nterserie.html
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Old 27 Jul 2007, 22:14 (Ref:1975016)   #81
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March 812-8

Dear guys from ten-tenths, thanks for all this detailed information!!! Although there ist still a ? about chassis 8. Did Hotz sell it to Konrad in 1981 or 1982 ?
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Old 28 Jul 2007, 07:38 (Ref:1975159)   #82
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you can ask Marcus Hotz directly www.horag.com
I would sugest a fax or email then follow it up with a phone call

i tried to ask Marcus some car history question in February he replied that he cannot remember all the cars and has some records but he was busy with current programme

you can also ask Franz Konrad directly www.konradmotorsport.com
I think you will find it easy to get info as they all speak german!
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Old 28 Jul 2007, 11:08 (Ref:1975242)   #83
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802-1 Ron Dennis 1980 - Japan 1981 ... [COLOR="red"]'Nickgoj' 2006/COLOR]
802-2 Ron Dennis 1980 - Unknown in 1981 - Norimasa Sakamoto (Japan) 1982 - Hitoshi Ogawa (Japan) 1983
802-3 works 1980 - Japan 1981 now in usa
802-4 works 1980 - loaned to Japan 1981
802-5 ICI/Fabi 1980 - Japan 1981
802-6 ICI/Thackwell 1980 - Daw, South Africa 1981 - Van Rooyen, Charlton, Goddard ... tub used to repair 802-7 mid '84.i cant se ethis working car was sold to uk raced in sprints libres then sold to non racer in 1999
802-7 works/Winkelhock 1980 - Krottenberger, South Africa 1981 - Hart, Scheckter, Taylor, Baker, Critchfield, Bryan, to the UK 1987 ... Roy Woodhouse (Rover turbo; destroyed).he later has 822 ex sheckter car any confusion here over cars?
802-8 Hotz/Studer 1980 - Hotz/rentacar 1981 ... Interserie 1983-1986
802-9 Japan 1980
802-10 Japan 1980
802-11 Hotz/Mader 1980 (did not appear in F2)
802-12 Hotz/Lienhard 1980 - Lista/Lienhard/Rottengatter 1981
802-13 Project Four Racing 1980 - Douglas & Gavin 1981 - EB Lunken 1982 - Lou Infante (Can-Am) 1982 - Jerry Molnar 1983-84 ... NZ 2006with bdg fitted
802-14 Hotz/Hotz (- Lista/Straehl) 1980
802-15 Hotz/Schnarwiler 1980 - Harald Brutschin 1981 - Konrad T-car 1982was in Uk sold to germany being rebuilt with bmw power
802-16 Ron Dennis 1980 (almost certainly written off by de Cesaris during the season)
802-17 Ron Dennis 1980 - Paul Smith 1981 ... for sale 2006
802-18 Ron Dennis 1980 - Douglas & Gavin 1981 - EB Lunken (Can-Am) 1982-83
802-19 Hotz 1980 - Lienhard T-car 1981 - Konrad 1982
802-20 Mike Earle Racing 1980 - March Racing T-car 1981
802-21 Japan 1980
802-22 Kim Mather 1980 - Roy Baker 1981 - Andy Barton 1982-1984 (as AC 3000ME GT car) - Bill Paul 1985-86 to Ron Cummins and retained?
802-23 Japan 1980
802-24 Crompton 1980-1981
802-25 Lane 1980-1981 - Roger Philpott 1981-82
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Old 28 Jul 2007, 11:39 (Ref:1975252)   #84
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[Amendments/COLOR]
Adam F said-Tub 802M01 is shown as the tub for
802-3, the works test car sold to Le Mans.
BTW 802-4 was only lent to Le Mans in Japan. According to the records it was to race once, then be returned to March in the U.K. No note as to whether this actually happened.

another car in usa is the 802 from seanloh with no id markings has can am body fitted and 13mb mazda motor 9 car went to japan in 80 & 81 -#3 is accounted for Davhut also mentioned another car in Washington any news on this car?-the 802 cars that raced in usa 2litre can am are accounted for and 1 802 is actually the march 77ST car with a different body- the 802 cars now in usa are all imported over the last 10 years but i think 1 of the project 4 EB Lunken cars is still in usa maybe this is the washington car?

802-1 Ron Dennis 1980 - Japan 1981 ... earlier list had nickgoj incorrectly listed
802-2 Ron Dennis 1980 - Unknown in 1981 - Norimasa Sakamoto (Japan) 1982 - Hitoshi Ogawa (Japan) 1983
802-3 works 1980 - Japan 1981 probably Hoshino team car-now in usa'Nickgoj' 2006/COLOR]

802-4 works 1980 - loaned to Japan 1981
802-5 ICI/Fabi 1980 - Japan 1981
802-6 ICI/Thackwell 1980 - Daw, South Africa 1981 - Van Rooyen, Charlton, Goddard ... tub used to repair 802-7 mid '84.i cant see this working car was sold to uk raced in sprints libres then sold to non racer in 1999
802-7 works/Winkelhock 1980 - Krottenberger, South Africa 1981 - Hart, Scheckter, Taylor, Baker, Critchfield, Bryan, to the UK 1987 ... Roy Woodhouse (Rover turbo; destroyed).he later has 822 ex sheckter car any confusion here over cars?
802-8 Hotz/Studer 1980 - Hotz/rentacar 1981 ... Interserie 1983-1986
802-9 Japan 1980
802-10 Japan 1980
802-11 Hotz/Mader 1980 (did not appear in F2)
802-12 Hotz/Lienhard 1980 - Lista/Lienhard/Rottengatter 1981
802-13 Project Four Racing 1980 - Douglas & Gavin 1981 - EB Lunken 1982 - Lou Infante (Can-Am) 1982 - Jerry Molnar 1983-84 ... NZ 2006with bdg fitted COLOR="darkorchid"]has BDG fitted- i wonder if the car pictured earlier with YB motor is this car its a simple swap over car is describe das ex serra de crasharis but he had#16 and allegedly written off did serra drive car #13?

802-14 Hotz/Hotz (- Lista/Straehl) 1980
802-15 Hotz/Schnarwiler 1980 - Harald Brutschin 1981 - Konrad T-car 1982was in Uk sold to germany being rebuilt with bmw power
802-16 Ron Dennis 1980 (almost certainly written off by de Cesaris during the season)
802-17 Ron Dennis 1980 - Paul Smith 1981 ... for sale 2006COLOR="darkorchid"]has BDG fitted- i wonder if the car pictured earlier with YB motor is this car its a simple swap over car is describe das ex serra de crasharis but he had#16 and allegedly written off did serra drive car #13?

[802-18 Ron Dennis 1980 - Douglas & Gavin 1981 - EB Lunken (Can-Am) 1982-83maybe washington car?
802-19 Hotz 1980 - Lienhard T-car 1981 - Konrad 1982
802-20 Mike Earle Racing 1980 - March Racing T-car 1981
802-21 Japan 1980
802-22 Kim Mather 1980 - Roy Baker 1981 - Andy Barton 1982-1984 (as AC 3000ME GT car) - Bill Paul 1985-86 to Ron Cummins and retained?
802-23 Japan 1980
802-24 Crompton 1980-1981
802-25 Lane 1980-1981 - Roger Philpott 1981-82
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Old 30 Jul 2007, 08:07 (Ref:1976163)   #85
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802-7 works/Winkelhock 1980 - Krottenberger, South Africa 1981 - Hart, Scheckter, Taylor, Baker, Critchfield, Bryan, to the UK 1987 ... Roy Woodhouse (Rover turbo; destroyed).he later has 822 ex sheckter car any confusion here over cars?
Drifty, no confusion.

Roy did destroy the 802 and then came out with the ex-Schecter car.
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Old 30 Jul 2007, 09:02 (Ref:1976221)   #86
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Ok had to check unusual 1 man has 2 ex ZA sheckter cars in quick succession
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Old 30 Jul 2007, 09:39 (Ref:1976242)   #87
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Ok had to check unusual 1 man has 2 ex ZA sheckter cars in quick succession
I don't think it was in "quick succession"; I believe he bought the two cars at the same time!

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Old 30 Jul 2007, 10:17 (Ref:1976262)   #88
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WELL ITS THE NEXT BEST THING!!
i guess he bought from Brannigan as he brought in 3 or 4 march cars from ZA
i know he did the 802#6 car ex thackwell and 1 832 in pieces that was made into lancia GT car and when i think of it he did the 832 with mazda motor that was raced at lydden by peter thurston
he sold car to cummins who then fitted bmw to it did libre
makes 3 832 cars that went to ZA for sigma series 2x 802 1x 822

i have 822 832 list to host in a short while
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Old 4 Aug 2007, 11:54 (Ref:1980403)   #89
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i have 822 832 list to host in a short while
822 for auction: http://www.coys.co.uk/auctions/lot.p...on=64&id=47434

It might be a quite succesfull car, but the estimate seems a bit, well very funny actually who's going to pay 120,000 euros for a car there isn't even a proper series for!?
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Old 4 Aug 2007, 16:26 (Ref:1980702)   #90
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i saw this car at essen motorshow looked like it was restored but the price is la la land more like 45-50k
danners 83 car is for sale in usa with bda motor
i have 822 roller to sell at £11k and 1 822 with bmw all fresh
im on the scent of these cars getting somehwer to run heard a story today that opens the doors
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Old 30 Mar 2008, 17:17 (Ref:2165313)   #91
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Something new for the mix
Remains of the real prototype 802 after Fabi crashed it during a test in Italy in January 1980
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Old 7 Apr 2008, 12:51 (Ref:2172265)   #92
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Old 2 Jul 2008, 05:17 (Ref:2241962)   #93
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March 802

I own the March you refer to...call me 916-765-2934
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Old 2 Jul 2008, 10:07 (Ref:2242101)   #94
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so u bought car from jochen and took to usa will u fit bmw m12?
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That's just the thing. The I.D. plates are missing for some odd reason. There is another car that is very much like this one, also an 802, in Washington. My father has spoken to the people over at March and it being an 802 is pretty much as far as we've narrowed it down to. What cars that went to Japan are totally unaccounted for? This car was sitting in Vallejo Califonia for several years before we bought it.
Please contact me 916-765-2934....the 802 you refer to in Washington is now in Sacramento. I have many questions you may be able to answer.
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Old 12 Jul 2008, 13:01 (Ref:2249656)   #97
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British Driver Kim Mather's Aycliffe Newton / Theodore Racing March 802 - Hart at Thruxton for the 1st round of the 1980 European F2 Championship.





F2 Thruxton Easter 1980 Project Four Racing March 802-BMW's




ICI Roloil Racing Team (March Engineering) March 802 (Spare Chassis) of Italian Teo Fabi being wheeled back to the awning at Thruxton April 1980.

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Old 13 Jul 2008, 12:31 (Ref:2250106)   #98
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neat photos do you have any more? or different years?
or do you have a website where they can be viewed
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neat photos do you have any more? or different years?
or do you have a website where they can be viewed
Just in the process of uploading some of my old photos to my Flickr site listed below:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/forestphoto1/
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I had a look at your stuff on Flickr PaddockMan earlier this morning, some of the best shots I've seen of the late 80s F3000 era... amazing stuff. Can't wait to see more of them.
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