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Old 24 Oct 2014, 22:13 (Ref:3468087)   #1
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Gen 2 Supercar

The white paper V8SC have been working on for a while, covering the future direction of the sport, has been signed off by the REC holders..

Story Here

2017 will be here sooner than we know..
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Old 24 Oct 2014, 22:40 (Ref:3468100)   #2
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What is it with the stupid generic names
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Old 25 Oct 2014, 01:16 (Ref:3468129)   #3
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Also what is it with articles that seem to get published with 4th grade spelling errors and no sub-ed???
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Old 25 Oct 2014, 01:24 (Ref:3468131)   #4
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More here:
http://www.speedcafe.com/2014/10/25/...firmed-sydney/

http://autoaction.com.au/v8-supercar-2017-unveiled/

http://autoaction.com.au/v8-supercar...ancial-future/


Looks like two door, four pot appliances are go!

Going to make for a really dodgy BoF scenario...

Also moves the whole show closer to DTM / SuperGT Class One and carbon tubs are expected to drop in price.
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Old 25 Oct 2014, 03:39 (Ref:3468148)   #5
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More here:
http://www.speedcafe.com/2014/10/25/...firmed-sydney/

http://autoaction.com.au/v8-supercar-2017-unveiled/

http://autoaction.com.au/v8-supercar...ancial-future/


Looks like two door, four pot appliances are go!

Going to make for a really dodgy BoF scenario...

Also moves the whole show closer to DTM / SuperGT Class One and carbon tubs are expected to drop in price.

No thanks. rest sounds good to me.
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Old 26 Oct 2014, 12:28 (Ref:3468676)   #6
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Also what is it with articles that seem to get published with 4th grade spelling errors and no sub-ed???
Look who the journo is - explains a fair bit.

One would be fairly confident the journo didnt even write the questions - the whole thing is from the V8SC pr department.
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Old 29 Oct 2014, 17:48 (Ref:3469779)   #7
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V8SC should stay a 4-door saloon car series.

If they switch to GT's it will be one of the many GT series in the world.

No need to change the chassis and engine rules, although I can imagine the manufacturers want smaller (turbo) engines.
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Old 30 Oct 2014, 05:08 (Ref:3469890)   #8
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V8SC should stay a 4-door saloon car series.

If they switch to GT's it will be one of the many GT series in the world.

If allowing 2-door cars like Camaro's or Mustang's in makes the series a GT series, then this has been a GT series since the mid-60s!!
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Old 30 Oct 2014, 17:44 (Ref:3470019)   #9
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Which 2-door car has raced in V8 SUPERCARS?
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Old 30 Oct 2014, 17:52 (Ref:3470024)   #10
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Which 2-door car has raced in V8 SUPERCARS?
ATCC from the early days to the supercar era.
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Old 30 Oct 2014, 17:58 (Ref:3470027)   #11
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Which was not V8SC.

I was talking about V8SC.
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Old 30 Oct 2014, 21:05 (Ref:3470058)   #12
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It's the same thing.
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Old 31 Oct 2014, 06:53 (Ref:3470172)   #13
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It's being renamed anyway. So even if you believe that V8Supercar = 4 doors only, it's a moot point.

Perhaps in 2017 <Insert New Name Here> will have 2 door and 4 door cars. I have my money on the words 'Touring Car' returning to the series title so I think that could work.
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Old 31 Oct 2014, 21:56 (Ref:3470326)   #14
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2 door coupes, different engine configurations why not just adopt the rules from someone else and make the start up costs cheaper?

Why build something new when there is plenty of options on the world scene already?

What is the cost difference between GT3 and DTM/JGTC?
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Old 31 Oct 2014, 22:17 (Ref:3470337)   #15
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a mustang and a camaro are not "sports cars" so it fits logically into the touring car scene
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Old 31 Oct 2014, 22:42 (Ref:3470344)   #16
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It's being renamed anyway. So even if you believe that V8Supercar = 4 doors only, it's a moot point.

Perhaps in 2017 <Insert New Name Here> will have 2 door and 4 door cars. I have my money on the words 'Touring Car' returning to the series title so I think that could work.
I would prefer that V8SC remains 4 door... much more room to put branding on to start with, and the cars being raced are volume models, not hero cars.
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Old 31 Oct 2014, 23:10 (Ref:3470360)   #17
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I would prefer that V8SC remains 4 door... much more room to put branding on to start with, and the cars being raced are volume models, not hero cars.
Why does it matter what car they use?

It's not like you can go down to your local Nissan or Volvo dealership and buy a rear wheel drive V8 now?

For me there is far to much hanging on to the past (V8SC era) for the series to make the steps it needs.

COTF for me has been great in some aspects but on the other hand a big fail as they didn't push the boundaries and stayed safe with engine configurations etc.
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Old 31 Oct 2014, 23:57 (Ref:3470372)   #18
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2 door coupes, different engine configurations why not just adopt the rules from someone else and make the start up costs cheaper?

Why build something new when there is plenty of options on the world scene already?

What is the cost difference between GT3 and DTM/JGTC?
This. I reckon GT3 is the go.
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This. I reckon GT3 is the go.
Quite possibly.........if people want high power, large capacity engines racing in the future they will most likely have to look at cars that are out of most peoples price bracket.
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Yeah, but who do they sell the series to first and foremost? The fans or the competitors?

They are cheaper to buy as a going concern, compared to a current V8SC, brand new ready to hit the track. Plus you get the technical backup from the constructor, regardless of whether you're competing against them. On top of this, R&D is global, spread over dozens of chassis, as opposedto as as little as three, or as many as 9.

Does Tony Quinn hold any actual 'rights' to GT3 racing in Aus/NZ?
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Yeah, but who do they sell the series to first and foremost? The fans or the competitors?

They are cheaper to buy as a going concern, compared to a current V8SC, brand new ready to hit the track. Plus you get the technical backup from the constructor, regardless of whether you're competing against them. On top of this, R&D is global, spread over dozens of chassis, as opposedto as as little as three, or as many as 9.

Does Tony Quinn hold any actual 'rights' to GT3 racing in Aus/NZ?
are they cheaper to buy? my observation harder to fix also.
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Good enough reason to clean up the driving standards a little.
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Good enough reason to clean up the driving standards a little.
the fans already cry enough when it comes to penalties
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Does Tony Quinn hold any actual 'rights' to GT3 racing in Aus/NZ?
I guess it depends on his deal with CAMS? I'd think his deal is more about using the "Aus GT Championship" title, he could run the series with any rules he likes, not necessarily GT3.

Once upon a time a promoter could just run a race for a class of car, be it a touring car, sports sedan etc etc...

Obviously thats how we wound up with AMSCAR alongside the ATCC, you had the Australian Production Car Championship as well as the Amaroo Production Car series as well as the Calder Bob Jane production car series, the myriad of localised Sports Sedan Championships etc...

If V8SC decided to adopt GT3 regs, i don't think they would be stop...... i find this scenario highly unlikely though
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What about using the ATCC as the name?
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