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10 Jun 2004, 13:18 (Ref:999651)
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jminsh, I think thats the story I remember also, however I'm sure one of those powered Magnusun, I must be getting as confused as Justin.
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10 Jun 2004, 13:24 (Ref:999657)
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I used to work with a guy who spannered for Van Diemen,he said they thought nothing of changing 4 or 5 engines in Michael Roe's car on a test day. He speculated that they were that weeks customer rebuilds which presumably had taken a detour.
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10 Jun 2004, 13:25 (Ref:999659)
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We need ComtecRenault too confirm it he'll know."WAKE UP JONOTHAN" !!LOL
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10 Jun 2004, 13:31 (Ref:999662)
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Patch was a Minister engine - Roberto Moreno has it apparently. Jan Mag ran an Auriga in his 92 (from what I can remember). Even if Jan's car was illegal he would have still won the festival regardless.
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10 Jun 2004, 17:44 (Ref:999905)
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pfffft ye old minister patch story, almost told as much as the "2 yellow cars and the mysteriously blistering lap record at oulton......"
i wont get neil talking about the olden days 
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10 Jun 2004, 17:59 (Ref:999920)
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Yes Patch was a Minster. Many champions ran it in Van Diemen,s. Tommy Byrne, Moreno, even think the great Senna ran it.
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10 Jun 2004, 18:37 (Ref:999960)
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The engine in question is closer to home than you think.....
Don Hardman has it in the back of Stu Kestenbaums car - the same car Joey Foster used to win the Walter Hays |
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10 Jun 2004, 19:58 (Ref:1000063)
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patch died .. steve robertson killed it as i recall...
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10 Jun 2004, 21:10 (Ref:1000181)
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ohhhh the air of mystery smells worse than my feet
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10 Jun 2004, 21:24 (Ref:1000191)
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....and I would suspect that the only original component left from those halcyon days would be the block....
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10 Jun 2004, 21:41 (Ref:1000205)
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....which was the important bit, seeing as how they patched it.
On the other hand, we had an engine let go last year. The block has been christened F**k*D and will remain in our own folklore for years. |
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10 Jun 2004, 21:47 (Ref:1000210)
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ah yes the fabled "gough porthole block(tm)"
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10 Jun 2004, 22:04 (Ref:1000230)
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Actually, we call it the Bold Holy Block.
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Miss D Gear actually
joke theif 
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12 Jun 2004, 00:31 (Ref:1001250)
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Miss D Gear?????????
Your practicing for when the first "cruise" comes to Oulton aren't you? |
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12 Jun 2004, 22:51 (Ref:1002135)
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yes im polishing my burbery hat and practicing my finger clicks and head nods as we speak
masssssssssssssseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeev |
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14 Jun 2004, 18:36 (Ref:1003882)
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Wicked. Bo-shank.
Yo mo'fo. I need a bit more practice I think........ |
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spiffing!
ill just get jeeves to put the aston in the garaaaggee or maybe not? |
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16 Jun 2004, 08:01 (Ref:1005566)
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Patch is in Florida in the back of Moreno old van Diemen in his garage, and it was biult by Trever Von Rooyen at ministers then they took it over, it was killed good and proper by Fat Boy Mark Blundell at Oulton, I had it for Kelvin Burt in 1989 but it was not as good as 633, o happy days engines that had a name and a life, now all modern motors are all ok.....so we do not give them the life like the old ones..
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16 Jun 2004, 08:13 (Ref:1005572)
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So Roberto has it eh.
Answer me this one then. At least six people used to claim they owned the 1980 Festival winning RF80 [all at the same time]. Can you name them? It wouldn't have been salesman patter would it? 
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16 Jun 2004, 12:46 (Ref:1005801)
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Everybody say,s that they have Sennas RF81 but its in Ralph Snr,s care, funny its the only car of over 3000 he has kept, I know of 3 people who say they have James Courtneys RF00 but PA got the real one.
Roberto wanted his Festivall car so he found the original chassie and then had the remains of patch put in it. |
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16 Jun 2004, 13:27 (Ref:1005827)
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Patch wasn't a patch
 on an FF1600 engine that appeared on the mainland in early 1975. It was the talk of the FF world. It was duly protested and sealed at Mallory one Sunday and found totally legal. Thing was this was a works Aldon installed in the Oulton Paddock the evening before. Said target of the protest wasn't even in the car at Mallory [wasn't an Aldon either]. Now if this driver had kept Woody building his engines on his teams rise up through the ranks, just imagine how many Constructors Titles the yellow ones would have won by now.Also funny that - allegedly - there are more Williams FW08s' racing in various forms of Historic Racing than Williams ever built. |
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if you want a old Benerton F1 car Shumi drove them all???? so they say
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