Good one for the Mathematitions

[sprocket]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Redracer77


Not having a go but look at Sproket as he had to take a break at Anglesey as it was his first race for a while and was unfit.

[diz]

Carry on Ricardo, what are you trying to say? I expect the rest of your post when you've had a nap.

[StephenRae]

With friends like you Diz Sprocket doesn't need too many enemies!

[sprocket]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by sprocket

Originally posted by Redracer77


Not having a go but look at Sproket as he had to take a break at Anglesey as it was his first race for a while and was unfit.

1) my fitness etc is not a subject for10/10ths
2)reason for stop,was an object got into my helmet(came in to clear out/caught breath/went out again) or had terminal understeer caused by excessive afids on car,came in caught breath,afids removed went out again!
Decide which is true ??
""commentators have venomous tounges in late july""

[jminsh]

Did the said "object" catch you up or did it enter via the front !!

[diz]

Originally posted by sprocket

1) my fitness etc is not a subject for10/10ths

Oh yes it is.
Whilst on the subject of weight. How much quicker is an FF1600 that is not weighed down by copious numbers of squashed flies than one devoid of any?
Just a thought, maybe you should have won.

[JustinDawkins]

It will make a difference (weight) - but from personnal experience I can't say how much really, Although I am much quicker this year we have done a miilion things to the car, so impossible to say what has done what!

Fitness is another good point - the more tired your body is the more stretched your resourses become in general - so does slow the brain down a bit too - can really **** your ability to concentrate etc. Fitness will never find you time, but as you say will stop you loosing it! lol Iwill let you know if I ever finnish a race.......

[sprocket]

Should do over 100 laps @ Anglesey this Wk/end,this should be good practice for 14/15 Aug !
""currently 2nd in Anglesey Senior class looking to take lead in Aug""

[jminsh]

Having done both long distance and FF1600 IMHO i don't think in a 10 lapper it makes a hugh difference however after an hour or so you do start to lose concentration and start feeling strain on arm and neck and so on.
This year i went to the gym and was amazed how different i felt at 1st race this season in the Chevron .10 laps in the Merlyn is a breeze .

[diz]

Originally posted by sprocket
Should do over 100 laps @ Anglesey this Wk/end,this should be good practice for 14/15 Aug !

Commentating doesn't count.
BTW the Legends you will be babbling on about are cars, not elderly drivers.

[Tim Falce]

Originally posted by foreversideways
Having recently started testing in ff1600 after a lay off of 20 years and not being quite as light as i was then, although at over 6' i have never been that light. How much of an advantage does a short light driver have over taller heavier example of the human form and where does it manifest itself ?. To take a practicle example, i am actually 6.2'' and 15 stone but could be in competition with a driver who was say 5.6'' and 9 stone. This does not just apply to myself but across the board in motorsport.

Probably the best way to quantify this would be to say how much of an advantage would a 9 stone man have over a 9 stone man with 2 bags of cement in a similar car.
Quite a lot me thinks

[sprocket]

Originally posted by diz
[B
BTW the Legends you will be babbling on about are cars, not elderly drivers. [/B]

I get the legends off,they have there own comm,goes @ same pace as cars! Guess his fitness is okay.
""I find 10/10ths is good for anger management""

[diz]

Originally posted by falcemob
Probably the best way to quantify this would be to say how much of an advantage would a 9 stone man have over a 9 stone man with 2 bags of cement in a similar car.
Quite a lot me thinks

Why would anyone want to take two bags of cement in a racing car?

However I do remember Bob Higgins filling bin liners with sand [found at Clay Hill] to make up the 55 lb deficiency when his Martlet was found light at post qualifying scrutineering. It was hard to find space in a Formula Ford for that lot. He shoved it everywhere. Maybe you Combe people could remind him about that.

[Tim Falce]

Originally posted by diz
Why would anyone want to take two bags of cement in a racing car?

I suppose I left the door wide open for that one

[StephenRae]

Originally posted by sprocket

""currently 2nd in Anglesey Senior class looking to take lead in Aug""

That's debateable...who's first...

Your suffering from a well known syndrome....
'The older you get the faster you were'

[sprocket]

Originally posted by StephenRae
That's debateable...who's first...

Your suffering from a well known syndrome....
'The older you get the faster you were'

Does that mean your getting Saga mail??
If answer yes ,your the new class leader!!
Check out golf/tennis senior tours then you'll understand me.

[foreversideways]

Fitness is an interesting one. I have generally been a fit person who has played some form of sport and trained for most of his life. However like most people my gym visits become less frequent over the winter period. So on go a few pounds and fitness suffers. However since deciding to make a return and knowing that a good level of basic fitness would be required i have been traing hard 3/4 times a week since January. Prior to my first day test at Oulton i felt pretty fit. Not so, as at the end of the day after 6*30 minute sessions i was mentally and physically knackered. I have recently completed my third full day test session at Oulton and felt fine. Therfore Gym fit is not necessarily car fit and car fitness builds up with time in the car. God knows how i would have felt if i had not trained at all.

[Redracer77]

Originally posted by foreversideways
God knows how i would have felt if i had not trained at all. [/B]

I know that feeling that is why I have joined the gym..!

[heel'n'toe-no]

Originally posted by foreversideways
Having recently started testing in ff1600 after a lay off of 20 years and not being quite as light as i was then, although at over 6' i have never been that light. How much of an advantage does a short light driver have over taller heavier example of the human form and where does it manifest itself ?. To take a practicle example, i am actually 6.2'' and 15 stone but could be in competition with a driver who was say 5.6'' and 9 stone. This does not just apply to myself but across the board in motorsport.

I've been told that at Kirkistown (62 - 65 second laps) the difference is approximately 0.2secs per stone.
I hope this helps.

[JohnMiller]

Originally posted by falcemob
Probably the best way to quantify this would be to say how much of an advantage would a 9 stone man have over a 9 stone man with 2 bags of cement in a similar car.
Quite a lot me thinks

Cement must weigh about 10stone per bag though?

[mattray]

Just F'ing drive it!

[Tim Falce]

Originally posted by JohnMiller
Cement must weigh about 10stone per bag though?

The cement I use is Portland and it comes in 25kg bags which equats to 3.9 stone, the only problem I have is they sometimes split open if I take a chicane too quickly and that spreads cement dust all over the inside of the car making visibility a problem
BTW, isnt there a lot of the letter 'I' in visibility

[Barny]

That explains where all the cement dust comes from and who puts scatters it on the track!

[Walshy]

Originally posted by foreversideways
Fitness is an interesting one. I have generally been a fit person who has played some form of sport and trained for most of his life. However like most people my gym visits become less frequent over the winter period. So on go a few pounds and fitness suffers. However since deciding to make a return and knowing that a good level of basic fitness would be required i have been traing hard 3/4 times a week since January. Prior to my first day test at Oulton i felt pretty fit. Not so, as at the end of the day after 6*30 minute sessions i was mentally and physically knackered. I have recently completed my third full day test session at Oulton and felt fine. Therfore Gym fit is not necessarily car fit and car fitness builds up with time in the car. God knows how i would have felt if i had not trained at all.

My point exactly that one.

You can be the fittest guy on the grid, but if you haven't driven one for a while, all the required muscles / brain capacity isn't programmed for what's to come.

I used to be very fit and unfortunately am not now. Family, work blah blah blah....kept me away from my training. In fact, preparing the car kept me away from training. That's the Catch 22 when you run yourself as well. Car or gym. No point in going to the gym in the car isn't going to be ready and you can't go to the gym while your working on the car. Free time is spent with my family, so that's the long and short of it. I spent a couple of years out of the car and the next time I got back in was in August last year. Well, it was a hot day and sat in the car with everything on, it must have been about 120 degrees. We were sat there for a good 10 minutes. By time we headed out onto the track, I felt like I had already done 2 races...........

But you can't attribute that to all fitness. I am a big lad, but not wholey unfit. Having not been in the car for 2 years, I think the adrenalin would have been pumping harder and the thought process would have been more mentally draining as well.

I'll hastely add, I slept pretty well that night.........

[sidsideways]

Whilst sympathising with the heavier driver I can't help feeling for some this is a lifestyle choice. My distant relative 'forever' would be well advised to get on a diet and take some exercise and then he might see his times fall. Or is he just too old?