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chunder · 17 Sep 2013, 18:59 (Ref:3305353)

Its a dying series, I think half the teams have hardly any cash

And they are going to places like Turkey and Russia as they are the only folk willing pay for the privilege!

Great WS race as always, but Superbike as it stands in that championship is dead for me.

**ghinzani** · 17 Sep 2013, 19:04 (Ref:3305360)

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Originally Posted by cg7aa

On another sombre note, I wondered why La Marra was not at the Nurburgring, there was a brief mention by the commentators wishing him well, this is why...

http://www.worldsbk.com/en/news/5-sb...-is-awake.html

I heard Jack n Jim mention something but I didnt realise its that bad. Hes a top talent, hope he recovers.

**gomick** · 18 Sep 2013, 10:35 (Ref:3305682)

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Originally Posted by chunder

Its a dying series, I think half the teams have hardly any cash

And they are going to places like Turkey and Russia as they are the only folk willing pay for the privilege!

Great WS race as always, but Superbike as it stands in that championship is dead for me.

I see the Spanish CEV series is going International - or European anyway...

chunder · 18 Sep 2013, 10:58 (Ref:3305689)

Interesting, owned by the Dorna of course

For me WSB is very badly run, it has revelled in its own self importance for to long and not moved with the times, they should have brought in ess electronics years ag, not allowed it to get out of control so the bikes all sound like twins.

WSS has been better, but a lot of the grid are useless!

Superstock is often a great race, and thats the point, it always has been!

I just cant see any direction from WSB, it looks aimless and bereft of ideas, and now BMW and Aprilia re deserting them who is going to watch it anymore.

Most companies only have budget for one major investment, the days of factory teams in WSB and GP are over, with the reliance on huge electronics budgets, if you banned it all it might get a bit more cheap.

But thats never going to happen

**gomick** · 27 Sep 2013, 09:46 (Ref:3309956)

Laguna Seca this weekend with AMA wild cards - shall be interesting to see how the Yamaha goes....

cg7aa · 28 Sep 2013, 20:08 (Ref:3310498)

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Originally Posted by gomick

Laguna Seca this weekend with AMA wild cards - shall be interesting to see how the Yamaha goes....

Race 1 starts in about a little under 40mins I think, have world superbikes ever raced on a Saturday at Laguna before? I guess it's to avoid clashing with the other lot racing at Aragon.

chunder · 28 Sep 2013, 21:17 (Ref:3310512)

Its a bit stupid and I bet hundreds don't realise its on!

To be fair Saturday night in Europe is not the best time to show anything! Especially at 10pm!

they were just talking about the last time they were there in 2002, and how the lap record hasn't changed much! Says it all for me, two guys Colin and Bayliss at the top of their game, and since then we haven't really had anything stellar!

cg7aa · 29 Sep 2013, 19:06 (Ref:3310789)

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Originally Posted by chunder

Its a bit stupid and I bet hundreds don't realise its on!

To be fair Saturday night in Europe is not the best time to show anything! Especially at 10pm!

they were just talking about the last time they were there in 2002, and how the lap record hasn't changed much! Says it all for me, two guys Colin and Bayliss at the top of their game, and since then we haven't really had anything stellar!

The lap record was eclipsed by a good margin in the end. Despite the restarts, we eventually got a good race, one of the best of the year with the top 5 quite close together. It even reminded me of te old days around Laguna. I'm looking forward to race 2.

chunder · 29 Sep 2013, 19:13 (Ref:3310794)

Sad to say after the decond red flag I went to bed, just counldnt be that fussed anymore!

**gomick** · 30 Sep 2013, 10:10 (Ref:3310993)

Race 2 was pretty good & good to see 4 riders still half a chance, though i hope Sykes & Kwaka win...
Talk that Melandri will be on an Aprilia next year & Laverty being somewhere else?

JohnnyFiama · 30 Sep 2013, 11:25 (Ref:3311015)

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Originally Posted by gomick

Talk that Melandri will be on an Aprilia next year & Laverty being somewhere else?

Laverty is in talks with Aspar and Pramac for a MotoGP ride. We could have two Lavertys in MotoGP next year!

chunder · 1 Oct 2013, 06:45 (Ref:3311305)

Three Laverty's in BSB many years ago, not sure if three Hyadens have ever been in AMA.

**gomick** · 1 Oct 2013, 10:51 (Ref:3311385)

3 Haydens rode AMA in 2002 - not the same class tho...

Ten Kate keep Rea & Haslam for 2014!

cg7aa · 1 Oct 2013, 10:56 (Ref:3311388)

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Originally Posted by chunder

Sad to say after the decond red flag I went to bed, just counldnt be that fussed anymore!

That's a shame, it was a good one and as gomick says, race 2 was another good scrap too, 5 riders very close together at the front racing hard. I doubt we saw anything as interesting in the all years they spent going to Miller.

I tend to watch the races several hours delayed so I can fast forward through the extraneous studio stuff at the beginning, ads and red flag restarts or tedious processions.

cg7aa · 6 Oct 2013, 17:25 (Ref:3313627)

Sykes and his ZX-10 took a sledgehammer to the Aprillias in race two at Magny Cours today; utterly dominant win. It must be galling for Kawasaki that they may miss out on the manufacturer's title because their second riders for one reason or another have not scored the points they should or could have scored to compliment Sykes' sizeable haul. I wonder how Lascorz would have done this year. We'll never know sadly.

Congratulations to Lowes on his championship, I was surprised last November when I heard he had signed for a Russian backed team, I didn't think they would have the technical resources, boy was I wrong! Kenan seemed gracious in defeat. Iddon rode superbly on the MV too, could they challenge regularly next season?

We had another close call this weekend though, it may well be my perception but we seem to have had more freak accidents this season, Bergman's supersport 1000 crash was just appalling.

On the subject of accidents, I heard La Marra had regained consciousness but during today's race it was mentioned he was in an induced coma, I hope the commentators were simply out of date with their facts.

Anyway, on a lighter note, I must say, I like the French crowd at Magny Cours, they seem to come in numbers and are quite vocal, it must make for a nice atmosphere, I'm tempted to go there next year just to see what it's like.

**gomick** · 7 Oct 2013, 11:34 (Ref:3314059)

Sykes smashed them didn't he...
Congrats to Sam Lowes - entertaining Supersport race, pity a 3rd bike wasn't up there more often fighting with Kenan & Sam... Good ride by Iddon on the MV!

**ghinzani** · 10 Oct 2013, 18:50 (Ref:3315906)

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Originally Posted by cg7aa

On the subject of accidents, I heard La Marra had regained consciousness but during today's race it was mentioned he was in an induced coma, I hope the commentators were simply out of date with their facts.

Its difficult getting info on his condition, especially not being an Italian speaker.

**ghinzani** · 10 Oct 2013, 18:54 (Ref:3315908)

Although this infers hes been released http://www.motoblog.it/post/242935/e...riabilitazione

**gomick** · 19 Oct 2013, 19:12 (Ref:3319988)

Carlos Checa has finally called it a day in his career which spanned 20 years... Laverty on pole from Sykes at Jerez!

**gomick** · 26 Oct 2013, 09:51 (Ref:3323264)

Ducati & Alstare split for 2014...

chunder · 26 Oct 2013, 10:05 (Ref:3323267)

Bike is a total embarrassment, so no surprise.

Aprilia no doubt for 2014, like just about everyone else, such a shame for the series as it is being totally transformed and a few barren years ahead.

Who knew ee? Dorna take it over and look what happens!

**gomick** · 26 Oct 2013, 20:11 (Ref:3323402)

Should we expect many "Evo" bikes?

chunder · 27 Oct 2013, 09:07 (Ref:3323555)

I think the championships should be only for them.

Allowing the same tech in this series as is pretty much in MotoGP is insanity.

Yamaha were spending as much on electronics in their last years as on anything else, and that shouldn't continue.

I hear people like Ryder talking about, you cant go back, but if people stop watching mate, they wont have a choice

Electronics deciding championships is not what I want to see, which is why people like Marquez, Biaggi, and to some extent Sykes don't get as much credit as they might otherwise.

Sykes wrecks the rear tyre, always has done, yet with the miracles of electronics he now is just about able to look after it

Marquez loses the font and rear every bend, yet with the miracle of electronics is able to get away with it.

I am an old fashioned fan, I like to see a rider sitting on the HIS limit, not Magneti Marelli's I am afraid.

When you watch a guy like Villopoto or Stewart on a crosser, THEY are guys at the limit of themselves, the bike is a tool, not a computer

cg7aa · 27 Oct 2013, 23:09 (Ref:3323922)

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Originally Posted by chunder

Bike is a total embarrassment, so no surprise.

...

The press release implied Alstare downsizing due to sponsor loss played a part but who knows what the real reasons are.

Anyway, it's been a dramatic two weekends of bike racing in all sorts of series, congratulations to Tom Sykes and Kawasaki, not too shabby when your first ever championship is a world title.

chunder · 28 Oct 2013, 07:20 (Ref:3324061)

I am fairly sure he might have won a british supersport title at one time, or he was pipped at the post maybe.

But I cant remember

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