Ingall Cops $15,000 Fine

[GTRMagic]

Story Here

A fine + an apology to race officials!

Lucky lucky boy...!!

[peckstar]

$10000 suspended, no points penalty

very lucky

[ford71]

Goodbye to honest responses in the post-race interviews.

I believe he was at fault but the anger stems from inconsistency, something only the officials have control over.

Slade's non drive-thru.
Whincup's car controller.
Multiple post race penalties, its no wonder Roland made a point of supporting Ingalls comments.

Also, I thought Lucas was facing his own penalty, where did that go? Or is that not news.

Well it at least got V8s a mention on the radio......

[peckstar]

Originally Posted by ford71

Goodbye to honest responses in the post-race interviews.

I believe he was at fault but the anger stems from inconsistency, something only the officials have control over.

Slade's non drive-thru.
Whincup's car controller.
Multiple post race penalties, its no wonder Roland made a point of supporting Ingalls comments.

Also, I thought Lucas was facing his own penalty, where did that go? Or is that not news.

Well it at least got V8s a mention on the radio......

I dont think threatening officials in post race interviews is a good look.
If russell had have stuck to legitimate issues without the threats there would be no issue with what he said and no fine

Personally I think he should have been fined extra for the worn out cliches he used

[Sandgroper]

Whilst I love the passion and outburst of emotions, I do blame Channel 7 for typically shoving microphones in the mouth of these drivers when tempers are high.
They should take part of the blame for incidents like this. The KNEW he would be fired up, they got what they wanted for us watching at home, but in the end Rusty got penalised. Next time NO ONE will say booh when being spoken too by Ch7 for the fear again of being fined.
HOWEVER I guess threatening comments don't go down too well I guess with officials.

[ford71]

Originally Posted by peckstar

Personally I think he should have been fined extra for the worn out cliches he used

But yes, could have done without the threats, but he hardly headbutted the camera, swearing for revenge and calling out Schenken, or whoever, to a one-on-one in a blind rage.

[eduardo1]

Originally Posted by Sandgroper

Whilst I love the passion and outburst of emotions, I do blame Channel 7 for typically shoving microphones in the mouth of these drivers when tempers are high.
They should take part of the blame for incidents like this. The KNEW he would be fired up, they got what they wanted for us watching at home, but in the end Rusty got penalised. Next time NO ONE will say booh when being spoken too by Ch7 for the fear again of being fined.
HOWEVER I guess threatening comments don't go down too well I guess with officials.

Rubbish. Ingall has been doing this for 20 years. He knew exactly what he was saying. And he didn't just say it to Channel 7 - he then repeated a lot of it, and expanded on it, to the print media afterwards.

And this has nothing to do with character or passion or freedom of speech or any of that. This was about disparaging and threatening race officials publicly. That's never on.

And to echo everyone else - very, very lucky. That went beyond disrepute into actual threats. If a football player said those things about a referee or a judiciary member they would be sitting on the sidelines for a very long time.

The really stupid thing was that it was about an incident where he was clearly to blame.

[one five five]

Originally Posted by Sandgroper

Whilst I love the passion and outburst of emotions, I do blame Channel 7 for typically shoving microphones in the mouth of these drivers when tempers are high.
They should take part of the blame for incidents like this. The KNEW he would be fired up, they got what they wanted for us watching at home, but in the end Rusty got penalised. Next time NO ONE will say booh when being spoken too by Ch7 for the fear again of being fined.
HOWEVER I guess threatening comments don't go down too well I guess with officials.

V8Supercar Media is the one doing the telecast, They are the one's who let the footage get played on air.

If they didn't play the footage, would Ingall have got the fine?

[Umai Naa]

If the cameras weren't on Triple Eight's pit stops all the time, would they be getting pinged for all and sundry?

[porsche91722]

Originally Posted by eduardo1

Rubbish. Ingall has been doing this for 20 years. He knew exactly what he was saying. And he didn't just say it to Channel 7 - he then repeated a lot of it, and expanded on it, to the print media afterwards.

And this has nothing to do with character or passion or freedom of speech or any of that. This was about disparaging and threatening race officials publicly. That's never on.

And to echo everyone else - very, very lucky. That went beyond disrepute into actual threats. If a football player said those things about a referee or a judiciary member they would be sitting on the sidelines for a very long time.

The really stupid thing was that it was about an incident where he was clearly to blame.

Unless I've missed something, he didn't actually threaten anybody himself, but made the point of taking said "peanuts" over to the crowd and letting them have their way. Which of course would never have actually taken place, when the smoke would have cleared and everybody would have cooled down.
Well guess what? No punches were thrown, no pushing or shoving, no need to take the kiddies out of the room, just the Enforcer strengthening his brand name. He made his point on national TV, got plenty of coverage and it only cost him 5 grand, if indeed any money actually changes hands. Both V8SC & Russell are winners here. The series needs a few personalities. It does the whole circus the world of good, when something like this and McLaughlin's post race gaffe at Clipsal happens. You can bet we will be seeing plenty of replays throughout the season.

[eduardo1]

Originally Posted by porsche91722

Unless I've missed something, he didn't actually threaten anybody himself, but made the point of taking said "peanuts" over to the crowd and letting them have their way. Which of course would never have actually taken place, when the smoke would have cleared and everybody would have cooled down.
Well guess what? No punches were thrown, no pushing or shoving, no need to take the kiddies out of the room, just the Enforcer strengthening his brand name. He made his point on national TV, got plenty of coverage and it only cost him 5 grand, if indeed any money actually changes hands. Both V8SC & Russell are winners here. The series needs a few personalities. It does the whole circus the world of good, when something like this and McLaughlin's post race gaffe at Clipsal happens. You can bet we will be seeing plenty of replays throughout the season.

“I tell you what, I’d like to drag those guys down and take them over to all of those spectators over there and see (what they think about it).
“They’d kick the s*** out of them.”

He's saying that the decisions of race officials deserve to be met with violence. That's a threat, whatever way you want to spin it.

And while I agree there was no harm in McLaughlin's comment, there's been no replays of it with the f-word included. All edited out. And you won't be seeing a replay of Ingall's spray either.

[TWRv12]

Originally Posted by eduardo1

“I tell you what, I’d like to drag those guys down and take them over to all of those spectators over there and see (what they think about it).
“They’d kick the s*** out of them.”

Just proves how dumb he was. Could have said almost as much with a bit of humour and they wouldn't have been able to touch him.

[GTRMagic]

Rusty Apologises

[Mixer]

Barest possibly apology. He's just a hot headed moron.

He was at fault and should have copped it sweet.

[eduardo1]

Yeah, it was the classic non-apology.

'Sorry if you were offended by my comments' in the middle of a full page of justification about why he was right all along.

[redesp]

Sounds like The Enforcer should be the next Driving Standards Observer

[davester]

Originally Posted by Mixer

Barest possibly apology. He's just a hot headed moron.

He was at fault and should have copped it sweet.

So you've just publicly in writing made a similar judgement as he did (you have both on the record targeted someone using insulting tone), yet in your case it is ok?

[Mixer]

Originally Posted by davester

So you've just publicly in writing made a similar judgement as he did (you have both on the record targeted someone using insulting tone), yet in your case it is ok?

Well if I said lets get Ingall here and let the forum ferals kick the **** out of him because he's a moron and does this all the time you might have a case...

[GTRMagic]

Originally Posted by redesp

Sounds like The Enforcer should be the next Driving Standards Observer

Yes, he should. I would imagine the WP cars would be in the pits every lap though for some infringement or other

[DAVID PATERSON]

Originally Posted by eduardo1

Yeah, it was the classic non-apology.

'Sorry if you were offended by my comments' in the middle of a full page of justification about why he was right all along.

That's what i was going to say.

Originally Posted by Mixer

Well if I said lets get Ingall here and let the forum ferals kick the **** out of him because he's a moron and does this all the time you might have a case...

Exactly. Insulting officials is bad enough, advocating or suggesting violence is far worse.

[porsche91722]

Everybody seems to be getting off their soft-coque, tri-cycles here.
Has the past been forgotten! Skaife running out on the track shaking his fist, Murphy and Ambrose getting into a finger pointing derby at the mountain, Longhurst punching Morris .
Fair dinkum..... an aging Enforcer would be flat out beating time with a stick! No wonder he suggested the crowd might do it. You see more punch ups on prime time TV every week at all codes of footy. Violence, my arse. He got out of the car a bit hot under the collar and vented his spleen.
Storm in a teacup!

[v8man]

Originally Posted by porsche91722

Everybody seems to be getting off their soft-coque, tri-cycles here.
Has the past been forgotten! Skaife running out on the track shaking his fist, Murphy and Ambrose getting into a finger pointing derby at the mountain, Longhurst punching Morris .
Fair dinkum..... an aging Enforcer would be flat out beating time with a stick! No wonder he suggested the crowd might do it. You see more punch ups on prime time TV every week at all codes of footy. Violence, my arse. He got out of the car a bit hot under the collar and vented his spleen.
Storm in a teacup!

[peckstar]

ha ha, so Rusty has a history of threatening people then.

Penalty should be worse

of course he coped it pretty hard for that one

[Axeman444]

Originally Posted by redesp

Sounds like The Enforcer should be the next Driving Standards Observer

1990's BTCC anyone?

[wnut]

Originally Posted by porsche91722

Unless I've missed something, he didn't actually threaten anybody himself, but made the point of taking said "peanuts" over to the crowd and letting them have their way. Which of course would never have actually taken place, when the smoke would have cleared and everybody would have cooled down.
Well guess what? No punches were thrown, no pushing or shoving, no need to take the kiddies out of the room, just the Enforcer strengthening his brand name. He made his point on national TV, got plenty of coverage and it only cost him 5 grand, if indeed any money actually changes hands. Both V8SC & Russell are winners here. The series needs a few personalities. It does the whole circus the world of good, when something like this and McLaughlin's post race gaffe at Clipsal happens. You can bet we will be seeing plenty of replays throughout the season.

Plus 1.


How precious can you get?