1986 RAC British Saloon Car Championship - Discussion & Results - Page 5

KA · 25 Apr 2010, 13:32 (Ref:2679351)

In their Nov '86 issue (the same one as the famous Ayrton Senna rallycar test) Cars & Car Conversions published an article on the decline of the BTCC

The article is headlined 'Not Fade Away: Why was the 1986 RAC British Saloon Car Championhip such a waste of time' and is headed with a pic of the 12-car grid at Donington.

There are some interesting quotes from drivers and representatives of teams and sponsors:

Andy Rouse felt that the Austin Rover withdrawal in '84 'was the start of the slippery slope; before that the championship was in a reasonably healthy state but people were put off because there was a tarnish to it; manufacturers, for sure were put off'

Conversely, Pete Hall felt that the arrival of TWR/Austin Rover was part of the problem 'not because they were doing anything wrong, but because they came well-prepared, they were just too good and started to frighten people away'

The sheer cost of Group A was a cause for concern- Richard Longman said' the main cause is a lack of money; it is a terminal disease, the rules are very complicated and you can find yourself with a car that is fashionable for one year- after that the manufacturer would prefer that you didn't race it, then you're stuck with a car that cost 50k to build. The capital cost is too high these days...some of the electronic engine management systems cost 5-6k each. The technical explosion has made running costs ridiculous

The handling of the class structure was another issue- Mike Lindsey of Alfa Romeo Dealer Team commented on the dropping of the 1300cc class in the early 80s which excluded a number of cars, followed by reintroducing it for 1986 'when nobody was geared up to do it' Equally, 'In hindsight, I don't think the 3.6-litre upper limit was a good idea either, now we are running to Group A regulations. We should be exactly the same as Europe with no artificial upper limit'

There's quite a lot of comment on a lack of commitment and promotion from former sponsor Trimoco, both Mike Lindsey and Pete Hall remarking on the lack of promotion the series recieved- Hall: I am very critical of Trimoco as a sponsor because it made no effort. Compare the company with Uniroyal which deseves the success of the prodsaloon series because it looked at sponsorship as more than just the name on the car- it saw it as an event, brought customers to every race, got the competitors involved and has always taken an interest.

The RAC gets quite a rough ride....the failure of the deal for Lucas to sponsor the 1986 series, which led to them jumping ship to back F3, the perceived cutting of corners over the number and length of races, shortage of prize money and even lack of garlands & champagne for class winners-
'The races are being cut and cut, to the stage where we only get 30 minutes practice and a 12 lap race, which is about the same as some of the leading FF1600 series get '(Mike Lindsey, ARDT)
'This year, to a certain extent, the championhip has been downgraded with one-day meetings, just one practice session and 12 lap races, rather like a club event..and at Brands on August Bank Holiday Monday, we were reduced from 40 to 20 laps (Max Churchouse, Datapost)

At the Brands GP meeting, Churchouse apparently found himself having to explain to no less than the head of the Post Office why Richard Longman hadn't received a garland for winning Class B....

Communication between the RAC and competitors was apparently poor- for example, the rule requiring a minimum number of starters for full points to be awarded in a class was apparently dropped- but no official notification of this was given to teams. The revived 1300 cc class only saw entries on three occasions, Tony Lanfranchi being the sole starter twice. The article asks if Lanfranchi had started enough (7) races and scored maximum points from them, would the RAC have awarded him the title?

One anonymous driver said 'a lot of the blame could be laid squarely at the door of the RAC' and described it as 'a professional championhip run by amateurs'

The article ends with an outline of the changes proposed for '87- the new class structure (A-2501+, B-2001-2500, C-1601-2000 and D- up to 1600), the removal of the 3.6 litre limit, an increase to 12 rounds and the expected appointment of a Championship Co-Ordinator

Jesper OH · 25 Apr 2010, 16:22 (Ref:2679420)

Interesting points there, KA. This leads to why 1987 was the start of a BTCC revival - sheer determination and persinstance from the competitors?

Jesper

bigears · 11 May 2010, 17:26 (Ref:2688725)

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Originally Posted by Jesper OH

Thank you for your offer, Bigears. I myself have been off for some time, mainly looking at historical Le Mans results and tid-bits.

As KA mentioned, grid positions is missing for some rounds:
R1: Silverstone (13 April) only pole position knownJesper

1) Rouse 1m 37.22s
2) Leech 1m 38.51s
3) Hall 1m 40.69s
4) Lovett 1m 42.08s
5) Newman 1m 42.47s
6) Hodgetts 1m 42.59s
7) Kirby 1m 45.10s
8) Crudington 1m 45.29s
9) Longman 1m 45.32s
10) Barnes 1m 45.72s
11) Curnow 1m 46.29s
12) Taft 1m 46.78s
13) Kimber-Smith 1m 47.40s
14) Hales 2m 07.43s
DNA) Brodie
DNA) Dooley

bigears · 11 May 2010, 19:02 (Ref:2688782)

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Originally Posted by Jesper OH

Fastest lap times is in general good shape, except for the odd time missing as follows:
R2: Thruxton (26 May) Lionel Abbott's time missing
R6: Snetterton (10 August) Times for Mike O'Brien, Brian Chatfield and Richard Belcher - all DNFs - missing.

Nothing on Abbott's time at Thruxton.

At Snetterton, Brian Chatfield clocked up a 1m 14.18s, Mike O'Brien got 1m 12.50s and I got nothing on Richard Belcher's time but he clocked up his time on Saturday as he had engine problems on Sunday.

Jesper OH · 12 May 2010, 05:34 (Ref:2689013)

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Originally Posted by bigears

Nothing on Abbott's time at Thruxton.

At Snetterton, Brian Chatfield clocked up a 1m 14.18s, Mike O'Brien got 1m 12.50s and I got nothing on Richard Belcher's time but he clocked up his time on Saturday as he had engine problems on Sunday.

Just to check that we're talking about the same thing: I was asking for fastest race lap times of Chatfield, O'Brien and Belcher. Otherwise some helpfull additions, bigears. I understand that both Dave Brodie and Rob Kirby was entered for the first round, but didn't arrive?

Jesper

bigears · 12 May 2010, 16:00 (Ref:2689244)

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Originally Posted by Jesper OH

Just to check that we're talking about the same thing: I was asking for fastest race lap times of Chatfield, O'Brien and Belcher. Otherwise some helpfull additions, bigears. I understand that both Dave Brodie and Rob Kirby was entered for the first round, but didn't arrive?

Jesper

Whoops my bad, thought you was asking for qualifying times, guess I was distracting while I was hold my new son and reading an old copy of Motoring News at the same time!

From my own experience, normally MN don't include fastest laptimes but there might be something with class fastest lap times.

I will have a look of course, a bit more thoroughly this time!

Jesper OH · 12 May 2010, 18:25 (Ref:2689316)

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Originally Posted by bigears

Whoops my bad, thought you was asking for qualifying times, guess I was distracting while I was hold my new son and reading an old copy of Motoring News at the same time!

Guess it beats reading the new son and holding the magazine

Congratulations with the new family member, BTW.

Jesper

bigears · 14 May 2010, 18:08 (Ref:2690500)

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Originally Posted by Jesper OH

R5: Brands Hatch (13 July) a few issues at the lower end of the grid.

For Round 5, the Brands Hatch GP support race, there's some doubt as to weather Mike Smith and Chris Maries started, qualified or even showed up for that race. Clarification of the matter would be nice.Jesper

1st) Jean Louis Schlesser (1m 36.83s)
2nd) Jeff Allam (1m 37.41s)
3rd) Dave Brodie (1m 37.74s)
4th) Andy Rouse (1m 38.46s)
5th) Neil McGrath (1m 39.05s)
6th) David Sears (1m 39.59s)

Richard Longman Ford (Class B pole)
Mike Newman
Mark Hales
Chris Hodgetts (Class C pole)
Jon Dovley
Tony Crudington (1m 44.85s)

21st) Mikael Sundstrom Peugeot 205 GTi (1m 46.99s) (Circuit debut!)

James Kaye (1m 51.77s) Class D pole
Tony Lanfranchi (the only other Class D runner)

Brian Chatfield (went to the back of the grid as he was 33kg underweight)
Richard Belcher (back of the grid because he couldn't do 3 qualifying laps due to mechanical problems)
David Grimshaw (at the back because of fuel leak at the start of qualifying)

Martin Carroll
Dennis Leech

Those drivers are only mentioned in the order of the qualifying article of the MN newspaper. In the results, it states that Kirby, Pearcy, Minshaw, Simsey, Saunders, Curnow, Gibson, Pownall and Davidson have taken part in the race but nothing in the qualifying results.

There is nothing at all about Mike Smith and Chris Maries turning up at Brands Hatch. Barry Williams was supposed to race in the David Sears Toyota Supra but Sears pulled him out at the last minute.

Regarding about Mike Smith, he raced his Uniroyal Production saloon Ilford Escort RS Turbo on the previous Sunday at the same circuit and driven into Tim Harvey as the latter slowed after black flags was shown after a melee at Paddock Hill Bend on the first lap. He decided to withdraw his car after deciding that he don't want to race with a black mark hanging over his name.

bigears · 14 May 2010, 18:25 (Ref:2690511)

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Originally Posted by Jesper OH

R7: Brands Hatch (25 August) grid positions for the BH Escort XR3s

Qualifying times for just about every round bar:
R7: Brands Hatch (25 August) only the BH Escort XR3s missing.

There are 8 BH instructor Escorts for the event.

Rick Shortle 1m 01.26s (His time was already within the lap record for the Escorts set by John Watson)
Stuart Cole

The rest of the instructors (Chris Cresswell, Pete Rogers, Peter Argetsinger and Ben Edwards) was within a few tenths of each other.

Lucy King (penultimate qualifier)
Peter King (stumbled out from Ronnie Scott's nightclub and went straight into qualifying!) 1m 03.53s

bigears · 14 May 2010, 18:27 (Ref:2690512)

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Originally Posted by Jesper OH

R9: Silverstone (5 October) incomplete grid

Qualifying times for just about every round bar:
R6: Snetterton (10 August) complete

Fastest lap times is in general good shape, except for the odd time missing as follows:
R2: Thruxton (26 May) Lionel Abbott's time missing
R6: Snetterton (10 August) Times for Mike O'Brien, Brian Chatfield and Richard Belcher - all DNFs - missing.

This is what left I got to do, I will try to do my best to do it later tonight!

KA · 16 May 2010, 14:10 (Ref:2691535)

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Originally Posted by Jesper OH

Update
Round 5 of 9 of the Trimoco RAC British Touring Car Championship
Date: 13 July 1986
Track: Brands Hatch Grand Prix Circuit (4.207 kms)
Distance: 20 laps (84.140 kms)

Pos.	Cat.	#	Driver	Team/sponsor	Cat.	Car	Grid	Q-time	FL	Laps	Time	Notes
1.	1.	20	Jeff Allam	TWR/Herbie Clips	A	Rover 3500 V8 Vitesse	2.		01:38.28	20	33:07.69
2.	2.	22	Jean-Louis Schlesser	TWR/Herbie Clips	A	Rover 3500 V8 Vitesse	1.	01:36.83	01:37.58	20	33:13.74
3.	3.	9	David Sears	Hughes of Beaconsfield	A	Toyota Celica Supra	6.		01:39.57	20	33:37.52
4.	4.	4	Dennis Leech	Dennis Leech	A	Rover 3500 V8 Vitesse	7.		01:40.63	20	34:04.60
5.	5.	2	Peter Hall	Rouse/ICS	A	Rover 3500 V8 Vitesse	8.		01:41.12	20	34:10.16
6.	6.	7	Mike O'Brien	Linden Racing	A	Rover 3500 V8 Vitesse	9.		01:41.85	20	34:42.36
7.	7.	5	Mike Newman	Burlington Wallcoverings	A	BMW 635CSi	11.		01:41.99	20	34:46.76
8.	1.	44	Richard Longman	Longman/Datapost	B	Ford Escort RS Turbo	10.		01:42.35	20	34:51.53
9.	2.	30	Rob Kirby	Alfa Romeo Dealer Team	B	Alfa Romeo 75 V6	14.		01:43.26	19	33:14.64
10.	8.	?	Brian Chatfield	Brian Chatfield	A	Ford Capri 3.0S			01:43.86	19	33:30.60	Starting with a 10 second penalty
11.	3.	?	Colin Pearcy	Smith & Latimer	B	MG Metro Turbo	19.		01:44.76	19	34:11.26
12.	1.	66	Chris Hodgetts	CHMS/Toyota GB	C	Toyota Corolla GT	13.		01:44.43	19	34:16.26
13.	2.	77	Alan Minshaw	CHMS/Demon Tweeks	C	Toyota Corolla GT	20.		01:48.23	19	34:50.49
14.	3.	61	Mikael Sundström	Peugeot Talbot Sport UK	C	Peugeot 205 GTI	21.		01:47.50	18	33:38.23
15.	4.	?	Nick Sismey	Nick Sismey	C	Alfa Romeo Alfasud Ti	24.		01:49.94	18	33:50.73
16.	4.	?	Roger Saunders	Roger Saunders	B	Renault 5 GT Turbo	23.		01:50.15	18	33:57.98
17.	1.	?	James Kaye	Containerships	D	Vauxhall Nova Sport	26.		01:51.29	18	34:05.63
18.	5.	38	Mark Hales	Terry Drury Racing	B	Ford Escort RS Turbo	12.		01:42.78	18	34:04.54
19.	6.	33	Alan Curnow	Longman/Datapost	B	Ford Escort RS Turbo	17.		01:45.39	18	34:05.54
20.	7.	?	David Grimshaw	David Grimshaw	B	Renault 5 GT Turbo			01:51.87	18	34:21.45	Starting with a 10 second penalty
21.	8.	?	David Gibson	David Gibson	B	Renault 5 GT Turbo	27.		01:52.58	18	34:21.81
22.	9.	?	Anthony Pownall	Anthony Pownall	B	Renault 5 GT Turbo	28.		01:54.62	18	35:01.51
23.	5.	?	Alastair Davidson	Troy Ambisonics	C	Ford Fiesta XR2	25.		01:51.77
24.	2.	?	Tony Lanfranchi	Monorep	D	Vauxhall Nova Sport			01:56.94	17		Starting with a 10 second penalty
NC	NC	31	Jon Dooley	Alfa Romeo Dealer Team	B	Alfa Romeo 75 V6	15.		01:43.99	15		Not classified
DNF		1	Andy Rouse	Rouse/ICS	A	Ford Sierra XR4Ti	4.		01:39.04	17		Rear axle?
DNF		62	Tony Crudgington	Tony Crudgington	C	Toyota Corolla GT	18.		01:46.82	13		Driveshaft
DNF		3	David Brodie	BBW Motorsport	A	Mitsubishi Starion 2000 Turbo	3.		01:40.31	5		Turbo
DNF		6	Neil McGrath	Linden Racing	A	Rover 3500 V8 Vitesse	5.		01:42.14	5		engine
DNF		?	Richard Belcher	North Essex Motorsport	C	Ford Escort RS1600i			01:50.86	3		Rotor arm/Starting with a 10 second penalty
DNF		36	Martin Carroll	Carroll's Transport/Burlington Air Express	B	Mercedes-Benz 190E 2.3-16	22.		02:03.49	1		Gear linkage
DNF		69	Paul Taft	Brooklyn Motorsport	C	Ford Escort RS1600i	16.		no time	0	0:00,00	Accident

Dave Brodie likely to have competed outside the championship.

British Grand Prix support race - the day that ended the F1 career of Jacques Laffite.

Jesper

A couple more updates for this one, based on what bigears posted, plus I've just taken another look at Autosport's coverage of the race. In light of what bigears posted, I've taken Smith and Maries out of the result, as it looks as if they were no-shows

In the 'Pit & Paddock' pages of Autosport there's a pic of the Brodie Starion, which confirms my vague memory that he ran here with a slogan supporting boxer Frank Bruno.
The report is headlined 'Prizefighter Brodie' and says
'Dave Brodie returned to the British Group A scene last Sunday with a beautifully prepared BBW Colt Starion Turbo. 'The Brode' attracted a lot of attention for his 'Bruno for Champ' signwriting, although actual backing was more forthcoming from Mobil and a couple of other companied. 'I'd love to do more of the series' said Brodie afterwards 'but that really depends on obtaining further sponsorship- and Mitsubishi's reaction of course'
The car carried sponsorship from Mobil 1 and Armstrong World Industries

There's also a report in 'Sports Extra' of Martin Carroll's prodsaloon Mercedes 190:
'Martin Carroll was present at the GP meeting with his prodsaloon Mercedes 190-16 for the RAC British Saloon Car Championship race. However, sponsor Servis was no longer in evidence, replaced by Burlington Air Express, a large air freight company in the States. Burlington livery will probably appear for the rest of the season. However, Carroll's race lasted just one lap before he pulled off at Graham Hill, the gearbox broken'
The pic shows the car carrying 'Burlington' and Carrolls Transport sponsorship with race number #36.According to the actual race report, he'd hoped to upgrade the car to Group A, but had been unable to obtain a proper Group A engine- available supplies of Gp A Merc engines having been diverted to the Nurburgring ETC round the same weekend.

There was a slightly nostalgic look to a couple of entries down the grid- Colin Pearcy's Metro turbo still in original works 'Computervision' colours, and Nick Sismey's ex-Jon Dooley Alfasud still in ARDT/Napolina colours

KA · 16 May 2010, 14:38 (Ref:2691559)

Added qualifying times....

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Originally Posted by Jesper OH

Update
Round 5 of 9 of the Trimoco RAC British Touring Car Championship
Date: 13 July 1986
Track: Brands Hatch Grand Prix Circuit (4.207 kms)
Distance: 20 laps (84.140 kms)

Pos.	Cat.	#	Driver	Team/sponsor	Cat.	Car	Grid	Q-time	FL	Laps	Time	Notes
1.	1.	20	Jeff Allam	TWR/Herbie Clips	A	Rover 3500 V8 Vitesse	2.	1m37.41	01:38.28	20	33:07.69
2.	2.	22	Jean-Louis Schlesser	TWR/Herbie Clips	A	Rover 3500 V8 Vitesse	1.	01:36.83	01:37.58	20	33:13.74
3.	3.	9	David Sears	Hughes of Beaconsfield	A	Toyota Celica Supra	6.	1m39.59	01:39.57	20	33:37.52
4.	4.	4	Dennis Leech	Dennis Leech	A	Rover 3500 V8 Vitesse	7.	1m39.91	01:40.63	20	34:04.60
5.	5.	2	Peter Hall	Rouse/ICS	A	Rover 3500 V8 Vitesse	8.	1m40.30	01:41.12	20	34:10.16
6.	6.	7	Mike O'Brien	Linden Racing	A	Rover 3500 V8 Vitesse	9.	1m40.56	01:41.85	20	34:42.36
7.	7.	5	Mike Newman	Burlington Wallcoverings	A	BMW 635CSi	11.	1m41.76	01:41.99	20	34:46.76
8.	1.	44	Richard Longman	Longman/Datapost	B	Ford Escort RS Turbo	10.	1m41.42	01:42.35	20	34:51.53
9.	2.	30	Rob Kirby	Alfa Romeo Dealer Team	B	Alfa Romeo 75 V6	14.	1m42.99	01:43.26	19	33:14.64
10.	8.	?	Brian Chatfield	Brian Chatfield	A	Ford Capri 3.0S		N/T?	01:43.86	19	33:30.60	Starting with a 10 second penalty- car underweight
11.	3.	?	Colin Pearcy	Smith & Latimer	B	MG Metro Turbo	19.	1m46.15	01:44.76	19	34:11.26
12.	1.	66	Chris Hodgetts	CHMS/Toyota GB	C	Toyota Corolla GT	13.	1m42.96	01:44.43	19	34:16.26
13.	2.	77	Alan Minshaw	CHMS/Demon Tweeks	C	Toyota Corolla GT	20.	1m46.21	01:48.23	19	34:50.49
14.	3.	61	Mikael Sundström	Peugeot Talbot Sport UK	C	Peugeot 205 GTI	21.	1m46.99	01:47.50	18	33:38.23
15.	4.	?	Nick Sismey	Nick Sismey	C	Alfa Romeo Alfasud Ti	24.	1m50.69	01:49.94	18	33:50.73
16.	4.	?	Roger Saunders	Roger Saunders	B	Renault 5 GT Turbo	23.	1m50.31	01:50.15	18	33:57.98
17.	1.	?	James Kaye	Containerships	D	Vauxhall Nova Sport	26.	1m51.77	01:51.29	18	34:05.63
18.	5.	38	Mark Hales	Terry Drury Racing	B	Ford Escort RS Turbo	12.	1m42.25	01:42.78	18	34:04.54
19.	6.	33	Alan Curnow	Longman/Datapost	B	Ford Escort RS Turbo	17.	1m44.77	01:45.39	18	34:05.54
20.	7.	?	David Grimshaw	David Grimshaw	B	Renault 5 GT Turbo		N/T	01:51.87	18	34:21.45	Starting with a 10 second penalty- car underweight
21.	8.	?	David Gibson	David Gibson	B	Renault 5 GT Turbo	27.	1m51.85	01:52.58	18	34:21.81
22.	9.	?	Anthony Pownall	Anthony Pownall	B	Renault 5 GT Turbo	28.	1m53.40	01:54.62	18	35:01.51
23.	5.	?	Alastair Davidson	Troy Ambisonics	C	Ford Fiesta XR2	25.	1m51.74	01:51.77			not running at the flag- clutch problems
24.	2.	?	Tony Lanfranchi	Monorep	D	Vauxhall Nova Sport		N/T	01:56.94	17		Starting with a 10 second penalty- car underweight
NC	NC	31	Jon Dooley	Alfa Romeo Dealer Team	B	Alfa Romeo 75 V6	15.	1m43.01	01:43.99	15		Not classified
DNF		1	Andy Rouse	Rouse/ICS	A	Ford Sierra XR4Ti	4.	1m38.46	01:39.04	17		Rear axle?
DNF		62	Tony Crudgington	Tony Crudgington	C	Toyota Corolla GT	18.	1m44.85	01:46.82	13		Driveshaft
DNF		3	David Brodie	BBW Motorsport	A	Mitsubishi Starion 2000 Turbo	3.	1m37.74	01:40.31	5		Turbo
DNF		6	Neil McGrath	Linden Racing	A	Rover 3500 V8 Vitesse	5.	1m39.05	01:42.14	5		engine
DNF		?	Richard Belcher	North Essex Motorsport	C	Ford Escort RS1600i		N/T	01:50.86	3		Rotor arm/Starting with a 10 second penalty. Only did 2 laps in practice before engine cut out
DNF		36	Martin Carroll	Carroll's Transport/Burlington Air Express	B	Mercedes-Benz 190E 2.3-16	22.	1m49.81	02:03.49	1		Gear linkage
DNF		69	Paul Taft	Brooklyn Motorsport	C	Ford Escort RS1600i	16.	1m44.38	no time	0	0:00,00	Accident

Chatfield, Grimshaw and Lanfranchi's qualifying times presumably disallowed for underweight cars. Belcher was a DNQ but allowed to start from the back with a 10 second penalty

bigears · 17 May 2010, 19:06 (Ref:2692766)

I have decided to scan the BTCC results so it would save me time!

R1 - Silverstone:

R2 - Thruxton:

R3 - Silverstone:

R4 - Donington Park:

R5 - Brands Hatch:

R6 - Snetterton:

R7 - Brands Hatch:

R8 - Donington Park:

R9 - Silverstone:

R9: Silverstone (5 October) incomplete grid
1) Rouse 1m 36.56s
2) Leech
3) O'Brien
4) Hall
5) Brodie

Class B pole: Longman 1m 40.45s

?) Newman
?) Hales

I will complete the rest of the grid a bit later as I need to have my dinner!

Dave Brodie entered into the season at the Brands Hatch GP support race so he may not be eligable for points as he didn't take part at the start of the season?

KA · 20 May 2010, 14:15 (Ref:2694767)

Brilliant!!- I think that fills in quite a lot of the gaps. We're still short of some qualifying times, but as you suggested a few posts back, MN didn't always print full details of these in 1986....

bigears · 22 May 2010, 11:08 (Ref:2695897)

I got the afternoon free as the missus and kid are out to town today.

So I will have a look into it in a minute!

KA · 24 May 2010, 11:50 (Ref:2697095)

To try and tidy up a few loose ends, I'm pulling together the entry lists across the season, to see if we can fill in gaps of race numbers, teams, sponsors etc.

1986's runners and riders...the list is fairly huge bearing in mind that only a dozen cars turned out for many races- a lot of these were one-offs, or only did a couple of races...

No	Driver	Team	Sponsors	Car	Notes
1	Andy Rouse	Rouse Engineering	Industrial Control Services	Ford Sierra XR4Ti
2	Pete Hall	Rouse Engineering	Industrial Control Services	Rover Vitesse
3	Dave Brodie	BBW Motorsport	'Bruno for Champ'+Mobil+Armstong World Industries	Mitsubishi Starion Turbo	the 'Bruno for Champ' signwriting was only seen at the GP meeting- think he had different sponsors on his other appearance? (last round Silverstone)
4	Dennis Leech	Leech		Rover Vitesse
5	Mike Newman	Newman	Burlington Wallcoverings+Craven Garage	BMW 635CSi
6	Neil McGrath	Linden Racing	Connells+Castrol	Rover Vitesse
7	Mike O'Brien	Linden Racing	Connells+Castrol	Rover Vitesse
9?	Peter Lovett	Hughes of Beaconsfield		Toyota Celica Supra
9?	David Sears	Hughes of Beaconssfield		Toyota Celica Supra	the car had Vodafone sponsorship at the TT- was this present for either of its' BTCC appearances?
13?	Barry Barnes	Manns Garage		BMW 635CSi
20	Jeff Allam	TWR	Herbie Clips	Rover Vitesse
22	Jean-Louis Schlesser	TWR	Herbie Clips	Rover Vitesse
25	Barry Robinson	CS Engineering	TW Robinson Demolition+SDC Builders	BMW 635CSi

Class B to follow...

KA · 24 May 2010, 12:09 (Ref:2697110)

Class B

No	Driver	Team/Entrant	Sponsor	Car	Notes
30	Rob Kirby	ARDT	John West	Alfa Romeo GTV6
30	Rob Kirby	ARDT	John West	Alfa Romeo 75 V6
31	Jon Dooley	ARDT	John West	Alfa Romeo 75 V6
33	Alan Curnow	Longman	Datapost	Ford Escort RS Turbo
36	Martin Carroll	Carroll's Transport	Burlington Air Express	Mercedes 190E 2.3/16	Prodsaloon at Brands GP meeting
38	Mark Hales	Terry Drury Racing	Duckhams+Motor	Ford Escort RS Turbo
44	Richard Longman	Longman	Datapost	Ford Escort RS Turbo
55	Colin Pearcy	Pearcy	Smith & Latimer?	MG Metro Turbo	Car was still in works Computervision colours
??	Roger Saunders	Saunders	Bedford Tyres?	Renault 5GT Turbo
??	David Grimshaw	Grimshaw		Renault 5GT Turbo
??	David Gibson	Gibson		Renault 5GT Turbo
??	Anthony Pownall	Pownall		Renault 5GT Turbo
35?				Renault 5 GT Turbo	seen in a pic from the Brands GP meeting yellow-fronted dark-coloured car- can we match this to any of the names above?
45?				Renault 5GT Turbo	seen in a pic from the Brands GP meeting- white car with blue diagonal stripe- can we match it to any of the names above?

KA · 24 May 2010, 12:33 (Ref:2697133)

Class C

No	Driver	Team/Entrant	Sponsor	Car	Notes
61	Mikael Sundstrom	Peugeot Talbot Sport UK	Shell + Finnair	Peugeot 205GTi
62	Tony Crudgington	Crudgington	Clausthaler	Toyota Corolla GT
66	Chris Hodgetts	CHMS	Toyota GB+Duckhams	Toyota Corolla GT	drove the 'Demon Tweeks' car at the last round
69	Paul Taft	Brooklyn	ECS+Mobil 1	Ford Escort RS1600i
74?	Richard Belcher	Julian May-North Essex Motorsport		Ford Escort RS1600i
74?	Phil Dowsett	Julian May-North Essex Motorsport		Ford Escort RS1600i
77	Alan Minshaw	CHMS	Demon Tweeks	Toyota Corolla GT
77	Barry Sheene	CHMS	Toyota GB+Duckhams	Toyota Corolla GT	drove the Hodgetts Toyota GB car at the last round
??	Geoff Kimber-Smith	AGK Motorsport	Mr Chips- Hot Chip Vending	Toyota Corolla GT
??	Lionel Abbott	Abbott Racing		Ford Escort RS1600i
??	Alastair Davidson	Davidson	Troy Ambisonics	Ford Fiesta XR2	Fiesta Challenge car
??	Nick Sismey	Sismey		Alfa Romeo Alfasud	ex-ARDT car at Brands GP- still in Napolina colours

Class D

No	Driver	Team/Entrant	Sponsor	Car	Notes
??	Tony Lanfranchi	Monorep		Vauxhall Nova Sport	Prodsaloon
??	James Kaye		Containerships	Vauxhall Nova Sport	Group A rally car at Brands GP

Escort XR3i- August Brands meeting only

No	Driver	Team/Entrant	Sponsor	Car	Notes
??	Stuart Cole	Brands Hatch Racing School		Ford Escort XR3i	think they ran with their regular race school numbers, rather than being numbered as Class C entries
??	Peter Rogers	Brands Hatch Racing School		Ford Escort XR3i
??	Lucy Rogers	Brands Hatch Racing School		Ford Escort XR3i
??	Ben Edwards	Brands Hatch Racing School		Ford Escort XR3i
??	Peter Argetsinger	Brands Hatch Racing School		Ford Escort XR3i
??	Chris Creswell	Brands Hatch Racing School		Ford Escort XR3i
??	Rick Shortle	Brands Hatch Racing School		Ford Escort XR3i
??	Pete King	Brands Hatch Racing School		Ford Escort XR3i

bigears · 24 May 2010, 17:41 (Ref:2697342)

I believe Brodie was sponsored by Philips Car Stereo or something like that at Silverstone. I will dig up my newspapers to confirm soon.

KA · 24 May 2010, 18:25 (Ref:2697363)

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigears

I believe Brodie was sponsored by Philips Car Stereo or something like that at Silverstone. I will dig up my newspapers to confirm soon.

Could well be- he certainly had Philips sponsorship when he shared the car with Barry Sheene at the TT in September

bigears · 24 May 2010, 18:42 (Ref:2697375)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jesper OH

Update
Race 1 of 9 of the 1986 Trimoco RAC British Touring Car Championship
Date: 13 April 1986
Circuit: Silverstone Grand Prix Circuit (4.718 kms)
Distance: 15 laps (70.770 kms)

Pos.	Cat.	#	Driver	Team/sponsor	Cat.	Car	Grid	Q-time	FL	Laps	Time	Notes
1.	1.	1	Andy Rouse	Rouse/ICS	A	Ford Sierra XR4Ti	1.	01:37.22	01:38.42	15	24:58.95
2.	2.	4	Dennis Leech	Dennis Leech	A	Rover 3500 V8 Vitesse	2.	01:38:51		15	25:00.02
3.	3.	2	Peter Hall	Rouse/ICS	A	Rover 3500 V8 Vitesse	3.	01:40:69		15	25:47.86
4.	4.	9	Peter Lovett	Hughes of Beaconsfield	A	Toyota Celica Supra	4.	01:42:08		15	25:47.94
5.	1.	44	Richard Longman	Longman/Datapost	B	Ford Escort RS Turbo	9	01:45:32	01:41:84	15	25:52.81
6.	5.	5	Mike Newman	Burlington Wallcoverings	A	BMW 635CSi	5	01:42:47		15	25:53.17
7.	2.	30	Rob Kirby	Alfa Romeo Dealer Team	B	Alfa Romeo GTV6 2.5	7	01:45:10		15	26:24.25
8.	6.	?	Barry Barnes	Mann's Garage	A	BMW 635CSi	10	01:45:72		15	26:28.70
9.	1.	66	Chris Hodgetts	CHMS/Toyota GB	C	Toyota Corolla GT	6	01:42:59	01:44.43	14	25:03.01
10.	2.	62	Tony Crudgington	Tony Crudgington	C	Toyota Corolla GT	8	01:45:29		14	25:10.98
11.	3.	77	Geoff Kimber-Smith	AGK	C	Toyota Corolla GT	13	01:47:40		14	25:11.94
12.	4.	69	Paul Taft	Brooklyn Motorsport	C	Ford Escort RS1600i	12	01:46:78		14	25:12.34
DNF		38	Mark Hales	Terry Drury Racing/Duckhams+Motor	B	Ford Escort RS Turbo	14	02:07:4		5		Overheating problems, returned to the circuit but then gave up.
DNF		33	Alan Curnow	Longman/Datapost	B	Ford Escort RS Turbo	11	01:46:29		3		Terminal electrical problems

By the look of it, this was to be the only 1986 BTCC race for Geoff Kimber-Smith. Was he commited to other forms of racing or business?

Jesper

Went through this post thoroughly and added some corrections according to Motoring News 16th April 1986.

On to the next round!

bigears · 24 May 2010, 20:12 (Ref:2697435)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jesper OH

Update
Round 2 of 9 of the 1986 Trimoco RAC British Touring Car Championship
Date: 26 May 1986
Circuit: Thruxton (3.791 kms)
Distance: 20 laps (75.820 kms)

Pos.	Cat.	#	Driver	Team/sponsor	Cat.	Car	Grid	Q-time	FL	Laps	Time	Notes
1.	1.	5	Mike Newman	Burlington Wallcoverings	A	BMW 635CSi	3.		01:28.79	20	30:15.83
2.	2.	1	Andy Rouse	Rouse/ICS	A	Ford Sierra XR4Ti	1.	01:24.70	01:28.59	20	30:20.04
3.	1.	30	Rob Kirby	Alfa Romeo Dealer Team	B	Alfa Romeo 75 V6	9.		01:31.72	20	31:02.98
4.	1.	66	Chris Hodgetts	CHMS/Toyota GB/Duckhams	C	Toyota Corolla GT	8.		01:31.61	20	31:03.17
5.	2.	69	Paul Taft	Brooklyn Motorsport	C	Ford Escort RS1600i	11.		01:32.69	20	31:17.47
6.	2.	31	Jon Dooley	Alfa Romeo Dealer Team	B	Alfa Romeo 75 V6	12.		01:32.07	20	31:26.31
7.	3.	44	Richard Longman	Longman/Datapost	B	Ford Escort RS Turbo	4.		01:28.56	20	31:28.71
8.	4.	33	Alan Curnow	Longman/Datapost	B	Ford Escort RS Turbo	7.		01:30.09	20	31:38.50
9.	3.	2	Peter Hall	Rouse/ICS	A	Rover 3500 V8 Vitesse	5.		01:28.03	19	30:33.97
10.	3.		Lionel Abbott	Lionel Abbott	C	Ford Escort RS1600i	14.			18	31:42.74	Including a 1 minute penalty for jumping the start
11.	4.		Alastair Davidson	Troy Ambisonics	C	Ford Fiesta XR2	15.		01:44.45	17	30:22.56
DNF		38	Mark Hales	Terry Drury Racing	B	Ford Escort RS Turbo	10.		01:32.22	13		Broken diff and puncutre
DNF		4	Dennis Leech	Dennis Leech	A	Rover 3500 V8 Vitesse	2.		01:25.90	8		Blown engine
DNF		7	Mike O'Brien	Linden Racing/Connells Estate Agents	A	Rover 3500 V8 Vitesse	6.		01:28.68	2		Broken gear linkage

A best race lap by Andy Rouse being almost 4 seconds down on his qualifying performance, and a surprise win by Mike Newman, Rob Kirby beating the turbo Escorts, would make me guess that weather played a part in this race.

Jesper

There is a photo of Newman exting the chicane during the race, it looks bone-dry!

Tony Crudington did not make the race in his Clausthaler-backed Toyota Corolla as he crashed at Kimpton Bend and damaged his right rear during the 2nd time session so you can add him into the table (don't know how to do that!)

Longman was running low on fuel and had to peel off into the pits. Also he and Curnow was having problems as their Escorts kept cutting out around the circuit, so that explains why Kirby had a good day at the time.

Rouse spun at Church on the 4th lap and he set a fightback afterwards.

Now, next round soon!

bigears · 24 May 2010, 21:15 (Ref:2697484)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jesper OH

Round 3 of 9 of the 1986 Trimoco RAC British Touring Car Championship
Date: 8 June 1986
Track: Silverstone Grand Prix Circuit (4.718 kms)
Distance: 15 laps (70.770 kms)

Pos.	Cat.	#	Driver	Team/sponsor	Cat.	Car	Grid	Q-time	FL	Laps	Time	Notes
1.	1.	1	Andy Rouse	Rouse/ICS	A	Ford Sierra XR4Ti	1.	01:37.44	01:37.64	15	25:03.97
2.	2.	7	Neil McGrath	Linden Racing	A	Rover 3500 V8 Vitesse	3.		01:38.30	15	25:05.91
3.	1.	44	Richard Longman	Longman/Datapost	B	Ford Escort RS Turbo	4.		01:41.78	15	25:45.40
4.	3.	2	Peter Hall	Rouse/ICS	A	Rover 3500 V8 Vitesse	2.		01:39.42	15	25:53.18
5.	2.	33	Alan Curnow	Longman/Datapost	B	Ford Escort RS Turbo	8.		01:42.39	15	26:00.08
6.	4.	5	Mike Newman	Burlington Wallcoverings	A	BMW 635CSi	5.		01:42.59	15	26:04.89
DSQ	5.?	?	Brian Chatfield	Brian Chatfield	A	Ford Capri 3.0S	13.		01:45.21	15	26:52.01	disqualified: underweight
7.	1.	66	Chris Hodgetts	CHMS/Toyota GB	C	Toyota Corolla GT	7.		01:46.15	14	25:07.24
8.	2.	69	Paul Taft	Brooklyn Motorsport	C	Ford Escort RS1600i	14.		01:47.08	14	25:25.25
9.	3.	62	Tony Crudgington	Tony Crudgington	C	Toyota Corolla GT	10.		01:45.69	14	25:43.24
10.	3.	30	Rob Kirby	Alfa Romeo Dealer Team	B	Alfa Romeo 75 V6	9.		01:45.39	14	25:58.94
11.	4.	?	Alastair Davidson	Troy Ambisonics	C	Ford Fiesta XR2	15.		01:59.14	13	26:20.33
12.	1.	?	Tony Lanfranchi	Monorep	D	Vauxhall Nova Sport	16.		02:05.44	12	25:29.44
DNF		38	Mark Hales	Terry Drury Racing	B	Ford Escort RS Turbo	6.		01:42.22	10		Front wheel bearing damage
DNF		31	Jon Dooley	Alfa Romeo Dealer Team	B	Alfa Romeo 75 V6	11.		01:45.15	7		Blown head gasket
DNS		4	Dennis Leech	Dennis Leech	A	Rover 3500 V8 Vitesse	12					Blown engine during qualifying

Brian Chatfield might not have been disqualified after all as the end of year point standings suggest.
No 12th on the grid reported so far. Could it have been for a non-starting Dennis Leech?

Jesper

Added some updates. I will do some more tomorrow.

One thing, what is the "cat" column means?

**chunterer** · 24 May 2010, 21:30 (Ref:2697493)

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigears

One thing, what is the "cat" column means?

Think it's class finishing order?

bigears · 25 May 2010, 18:52 (Ref:2698099)

Quote:

Originally Posted by KA

1986 BTCC Round 4- Donington. June 15 1986. 15 laps

Pos.	Class Pos.	No.	Entrant	Driver	Car	Class	Race Time	Laps	Retirement Cause	Fastest Time	Qualifying Time	Grid Position
1.	1.	1.	ICS	Andy Rouse	Ford Sierra XR4Ti	A	28m16.59	15 laps		1m51.12	1m49.53	1
2.	2.	5.	Burlington Wallcoverings	Mike Newman	BMW 635CSi	A	28m41.89	15 laps		1m52.10	1m 53.01	6
3.	1.	44.	Longman/Datapost	Richard Longman	Ford Escort RS Turbo	B	28m53.87	15 laps		1m53.10	1m 51.83	2
4.	1.	66	CHMS/Toyota GB	Chris Hodgetts	Toyota Corolla GT AE86	C	29m20.47	15 laps		1m55.77	1m55.40	8
5.	2.	30	Alfa Romeo Dealer Team	Rob Kirby	Alfa Romeo 75 V6	B	29m21.61	15 laps		1m56.35	1m57.16	11
6.	2.	69	Brooklyn Motorsport	Paul Taft	Ford Escort RS1600i	C	29m36.47	15 laps		1m57.07	1m 57.26	12
7.	3.	62	Tony Crudgington	Tony Crudgington	Toyota Corolla GT AE86	C		14 laps		1m57.57	1m 57.06	10

DNF.	DNF	38	Terry Drury Racing	Mark Hales	Ford Escort RS Turbo	B		11 laps	Electrical	1m52.86	1m 52.09	4
DNF.	DNF.	2	ICS	Peter Hall	Rover Vitesse	A		3 laps	Head gasket		1m53.16	7
DNF.	DNF.	31	Alfa Romeo Dealer Team	Jon Dooley	Alfa Romeo 75 V6	B		2 laps	Distributor		1m 56.48	9
DNF.	DNF.	33	Longman/Datapost	Alan Curnow	Ford Escort RS Turbo	B		0 laps	Clutch		1m52.19	5

DNS.	DNS.	7	Linden Racing	Mike O'Brien	Rover Vitesse	A		DNS	Broken driveshaft during warm-up lap		1m 52.04	3
DNS.	DNS.	4	Dennis Leech	Dennis Leech	Rover Vitesse	A		DNS	Engine during qualifying

Some more updates.

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