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Old 26 Feb 2013, 08:07 (Ref:3211004)   #1
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Poultry Nissan GT-R at the Le Mans 24 Hours race?

I didn't find any discusssion about this topic, so I'll start it.

Does anybody know the reasons why Nissan doesn't want to homologate a GT-R for the Le Mans specs? It would be so good to see japanese manufacturers in the GT field.
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Old 26 Feb 2013, 08:15 (Ref:3211007)   #2
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Old 26 Feb 2013, 08:29 (Ref:3211017)   #3
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With the uncertainty over the GT future rules I can see them taking the same path as McLaren and staying off any decision until later when the rules are sorted.
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With the uncertainty over the GT future rules I can see them taking the same path as McLaren and staying off any decision until later when the rules are sorted.
I don't agree with that because compared to McLaren, Nissan is heavily pushing forward in the GT3 races and as far as I have heard, it would be a rather easy task for a manufacturer to convert a GT3 car into a ACO-GTE car.

And rules are sorted out: ACO rules are now FIA enforced rules, ALMS 2013 is also ACO compatible... so what's still to be sorted out? But that's not the discussion here...
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puke. hope this abomination wont race at le mans. ever.
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puke. hope this abomination wont race at le mans. ever.
it's similar to a Corvette from the back... so I do like it.
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Old 26 Feb 2013, 08:47 (Ref:3211029)   #7
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I don't agree with that because compared to McLaren, Nissan is heavily pushing forward in the GT3 races and as far as I have heard, it would be a rather easy task for a manufacturer to convert a GT3 car into a ACO-GTE car.

And rules are sorted out: ACO rules are now FIA enforced rules, ALMS 2013 is also ACO compatible... so what's still to be sorted out? But that's not the discussion here...
I'd say McLaren are pushing forward a lot more than Nissan in terms of GT3. A quick scan of the amount of each car on any grid tells you that.

If it was THAT easy to convert to GTE then everyone would have done it. There's clearly much more too it.

As for the rules. They aren't sorted out with a new supposedly unified GT class on the way from around 2015. There's a lot to be sorted out and it's naive to say rules don't come into the discussion.


Aside from that after last nights announcent it seems Nissan have quite a lot ok their plate already.
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Old 26 Feb 2013, 08:48 (Ref:3211030)   #8
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Going by the GTE Z4 vs the GT3 car, they pretty much used the suspension from the M3, the gearbox, the aero is pretty much all new, it's wider, alot of bodywork is new, it's hardly an easy transition....
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Old 26 Feb 2013, 09:04 (Ref:3211040)   #9
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well lets see what nissan announces tonight, could be LMP or GTE news
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well lets see what nissan announces tonight, could be LMP or GTE news
They've already announced it last night, it's Garage 56 with an electric LMP in 2014, plus a possible LMP1 programme in the future.
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They've already announced it last night, it's Garage 56 with an electric LMP in 2014, plus a possible LMP1 programme in the future.
sorry was working through unread post this morning in the wrong order
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didn't it win last year in its class?
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didn't it win last year in its class?
as far as I could follow up the news, Nissan GTR GT1 "only" won the Driver's Championship of the FIA GT1 World Championship in 2011. Team-wise Aston Martin took 1st place.
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It only won some races in British GT, that was with 2 essentially Pro drivers against a pro and gentleman driver....
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It only won some races in British GT, that was with 2 essentially Pro drivers against a pro and gentleman driver....
and 3 races in the FIA GT1 Championship 2011 with the GTR GT1 with Lucas Luhr and Michael Krumm.
So they achieved much more than just some wins in the local British GT... This year the same team (JRM) will race at the Blancpain Endurance Series with the brand new GTR GT3!
See http://blancpain-endurance-series.co...em.php?key=464
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as far as I could follow up the news, Nissan GTR GT1 "only" won the Driver's Championship of the FIA GT1 World Championship in 2011. Team-wise Aston Martin took 1st place.
how does the car not get the credit for winning the series, surely it should've won the team/constructors points aswell?
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No. The GTR's drivers won the Drivers' Title, the car did not as the car that did scored more podium finishes more consistently.
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So Nissan will try to enter for the garage n°56 in 2014 with a electric or hybrid new engine.
I would bet for a complete electric engine, though some of you don't agree with this perspective.

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how does the car not get the credit for winning the series, surely it should've won the team/constructors points aswell?
no, they missed first place by just 3 points!! It was a great season!
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So Nissan will try to enter for the garage n°56 in 2014 with a electric or hybrid new engine.
Correct. By the way you have a great avatar (Signatech Nissan!)
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yeah Im watching the 2011 GT1 series on Youtube, good racing!
excuse my lack of knowledge in this series, but why isn't this car contesting in the FIA GT1 races? with Lucas Luhr now competing in an Endurance race in the GTR, I'd like to see them compete in our Bathurst 12 hr.
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Correct. By the way you have a great avatar (Signatech Nissan!)
I took the photo at the Mondial of Paris last october ; the Signatech ORECA was there.
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yeah Im watching the 2011 GT1 series on Youtube, good racing!
excuse my lack of knowledge in this series, but why isn't this car contesting in the FIA GT1 races? with Lucas Luhr now competing in an Endurance race in the GTR, I'd like to see them compete in our Bathurst 12 hr.
FIA GT1 as such doesn't exist anymore, but on Jan 10th 2013 it was announced that the FIA GT Series will be the basis for those cars:
http://www.fiagtseries.com/news/deta...is-go-for-2013

If you would like to see Lucas Luhr, you have to watch the Blancpain Endurance Series (but no Bathurst):
http://blancpain-endurance-series.com/
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