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View Poll Results: LMP1 privateers in 2017 and/or 2018???
Rebellion Racing 26 86.67%
ByKolles Racing Team 25 83.33%
Oak Racing 4 13.33%
SMP Racing 16 53.33%
Strakka Racing 15 50.00%
Greaves Motorsports 2 6.67%
Manor WEC 14 46.67%
Signatech Alpine 5 16.67%
Scuderia Cameron Glickenhaus 7 23.33%
Team SARD 0 0%
Team Penske 0 0%
Courage 1 3.33%
Perrinn Ltd 1 3.33%
Project Brabham 2 6.67%
HPD-Wirth 2 6.67%
Adess AG 1 3.33%
Dome 2 6.67%
Welter Racing 1 3.33%
???OTHER??? 4 13.33%
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Old 3 May 2016, 14:32 (Ref:3638124)   #16
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Strakka remains hopeful:
http://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/s...ateer-project/

If not 2017, then maybe 2018.

Does this make we want to vote them after all? No, I'm still very skeptical, but as I've said before, I'd love to be proven wrong here.

Anyway there was an interesting, very logical bit I hadn't thought too much:
“We have to respect as well the message that’s trying to be put out. They want the hybrid cars to be perceived as having high fuel efficiency and so on, and they have. So therefore we can’t certainly go further into a race than a hybrid car because that creates the wrong message."
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Old 3 May 2016, 14:46 (Ref:3638133)   #17
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don't want to be harsh, but strakka spent a whole year to set up their dome, dropping everything just after 3 races then...
let's say that they are better as racing team than engineering group
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Old 3 May 2016, 14:48 (Ref:3638136)   #18
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I'm not quite sure why they insist on having their own (co-)designs rather than contacting Oak or HPD or Oreca or whomever for customer car. It's not like they've had issues in doing such in LMP2, aside from the said Dome.
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I'm not quite sure why they insist on having their own (co-)designs rather than contacting Oak or HPD or Oreca or whomever for customer car. It's not like they've had issues in doing such in LMP2, aside from the said Dome.
Perhaps they like the challenge of building their own car. Interesting to see in that article that they want to continue with the Dome in 2018 and Rebellion wants to continue with their chassis as well.
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Maybe. It's respectable in any case.

Anyway, if they go ahead and if the old monocoque design gets green light, I don't think Dome itself will have anything to do with anything here anymore, and the chassis will probably get rebranded as, I don't know, Strakka 01 or something like that...
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Like the point I was making in the DPi thread, the p2-p1 step can be done and I expect the new p2's being close to the current p1's to make that less of a hassle for teams looking to get cars. Cars that could be based on the one's they're running next year. Or at least with some familiarity (constructor).
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Perhaps they like the challenge of building their own car. Interesting to see in that article that they want to continue with the Dome in 2018 and Rebellion wants to continue with their chassis as well.
well... why rebellion should switch for new cars after 2017?
reliability issues have been so far their only serious rivals in grid...

About who made who, surely oreca was already developing the oreca 05 program before rebellion knocked to their door... they simply updated the car for lmp1 specs and then released the 05 one season later. Of course the r-one is more expensive than the 05, but most of these extra costs come from drivetrain I guess.
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Like the point I was making in the DPi thread, the p2-p1 step can be done and I expect the new p2's being close to the current p1's to make that less of a hassle for teams looking to get cars. Cars that could be based on the one's they're running next year. Or at least with some familiarity (constructor).
I don't agree.

I'll argue tomorrow when I'm less tired than now. Probably. We'll see.
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Like carbon is saying, there's a list of similarities. Monocoque(?) maybe being the main one. I think this could be looked at as an example for current p2 teams looking for a car to run in p1.
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[QUOTE=carbon_titanium;3638235]well... why rebellion should switch for new cars after 2017?
reliability issues have been so far their only serious rivals in grid...

Because unless the FIA/ACO allowed the current Privateer cars, ie: Rebellion & Kolles to be grandfathered in for 2018, the monocques alone, will not comply to the proposed P1 2018 regs. I also doub that any of the currect cars can be "updated" to the 2018 requirements, they seem to be not adaptable.

So based on this simple fact of life = no grandfather clause = new chassis.
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There's no ruleset yet. In the interview with Strakka, they said the teams want to keep the current monocoque's for the updated rules.
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Compared to Perrin and Brabham (whose projects have gone ghost) Welter Racing has some progression going.
http://sportscar365.com/lemans/leman...ntry-revealed/

Granted it's Garage 56, nonetheless, it's encouraging

On a side note. I wonder if the engine is related to the Nissan DIG-T used in the ZEOD
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Compared to Perrin and Brabham (whose projects have gone ghost) Welter Racing has some progression going.
http://sportscar365.com/lemans/leman...ntry-revealed/

Granted it's Garage 56, nonetheless, it's encouraging

On a side note. I wonder if the engine is related to the Nissan DIG-T used in the ZEOD
It was actually mentioned in the original 2013 article leading up to the stillborn and never-heard-again LMP1+LMP2 chassis
http://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/w...-car-for-2014/

Dejardin also confirmed that the chassis will be used for a future Garage 56 entry, with an announcement on that program expected shortly. WR was the designer of the GreenGT H2, the hydrogen-electric powered prototype that withdrew from this year’s race.
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How far the MSR and Patron Ligier HPD from IMSA would be from the current Private LMP1? With the 3.5 HPD and ditching the spec continentals.
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