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Old 27 Jun 2017, 15:28 (Ref:3747313)   #1
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Can a F3 World Championship save Formula 3

The reason why I raise this option is because the competitors for this year's FIA F3 European Championship is much lesser than in 2014 and 2015 with not more than 20 cars in the recent years, that cannot show a strong mandate to the racing community (but the performance of Lance Stroll in Baku may give a little light to the series)(Also teams may be watching the Dallara F317 and cost-cutting methods made by FIA)

What is more, the FIA introduced an International Trophy in 2011, and re-brand the Macau Formula 3 race into a World Cup status in 2016 which I think FIA is working to do something to improve the competitiveness of Formula 3. And a World Championship can introduce non-European circuits to join the calendar, like Guia Circuit, COTA, Suzuka and so on.

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Old 27 Jun 2017, 15:57 (Ref:3747325)   #2
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No, costs would be horrific. Travel and freight. Freight is the biggest cost the Macau govt pays.
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Old 27 Jun 2017, 16:05 (Ref:3747327)   #3
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This is one of my concerns, if FIA can get a good promoter, it can bring us a good service provider like DHL
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Old 27 Jun 2017, 16:12 (Ref:3747329)   #4
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Another option is introducing the hybrid function into F3 as many major racing series like F1, WEC and DTM is adapting such technologies
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Old 27 Jun 2017, 16:46 (Ref:3747345)   #5
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Junior formula racing should be regional. F3 can race across Europe, but that's it.
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Old 28 Jun 2017, 10:31 (Ref:3747561)   #6
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Agreed, F3 Masters and Macau are the closest things we've had to a world cup of F3. A world championship would be too much
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Old 29 Jun 2017, 03:11 (Ref:3747709)   #7
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I think what they are hoping to do is what they are working on with F4 and have more regional and National F3 series that could compete in a World Championship Shoot Out.

Part of the problem is the competition with GP3. From what I can tell, GP3 will eventually be re-branded as FIA European F3 and there will be national/regional F3 Lite series in other parts of the world.

When and if that happens is anybody's guess but if you had the GP3 teams competing in European F3 that category would instantly become stronger.
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Old 29 Jun 2017, 03:33 (Ref:3747711)   #8
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the problem is that the concept behind f3 and gp3 is absolutely night and day. something will have to give and it'll be a crying shame if it's the f3 philosophy.

but yeah, you can have as many fancy races as you like but the reality is that the market can't afford the budget fia f3 teams need to charge as it is. it's a right headache, i don't envy the person in charge of sorting it out in the slightest.
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Old 29 Jun 2017, 07:45 (Ref:3747735)   #9
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Similar to the plan of the merger between F3 and GP3, a F3 World Championship can absorb teams who are racing in other regional F3 series (like Japan F3 and F3 Euro Open in Spain) into an FIA-sanctioned championship to enhance the power of F3.

For the cost issue, everyone is looking the cut cost measures in FIA F3 European Championship, but as I mentioned before, if FIA can find a good promoter, it may save some costs by attracting different commercial partners (like DHL as logistic partner, hotel chains for providing hospitality services to drivers and team personnel)

A F3 World Championship can increase the recognition of championship winners that he/she defeated all the drivers around the world like F1.
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Old 29 Jun 2017, 08:13 (Ref:3747738)   #10
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What is more, as I suggest the introduction of hybrid engines can help drivers to meet the requirements of motorsport community. Like F1, WEC and DTM have hybrid engines.
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Old 29 Jun 2017, 08:31 (Ref:3747742)   #11
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For F3 really to get back to it's glory days, it needs multi chassis/engine, because that is one thing missing these days from junior single seaters
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I think it could work with the right level of support. Put it on the Grand Prix package along with an F2 world championship and sell it as a united TV deal - if you want to show F1, then you also have to show F2 and F3. Sundays are 3x GP's like in MotoGP, with the F3, F2 and F1 race. That would dramatically increase the exposure of the championship and might interest some real sponsors.

I'd love to see an open formula, but I think a good middle ground could be a new Dallara design that is frozen for a couple of seasons. Different engines should be possible right off the bat and could lead to factory supported MB, VW, Toyota and Honda junior teams.
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Old 1 Jul 2017, 17:53 (Ref:3748145)   #13
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I think it could work with the right level of support. Put it on the Grand Prix package along with an F2 world championship and sell it as a united TV deal - if you want to show F1, then you also have to show F2 and F3. Sundays are 3x GP's like in MotoGP, with the F3, F2 and F1 race. That would dramatically increase the exposure of the championship and might interest some real sponsors.

I'd love to see an open formula, but I think a good middle ground could be a new Dallara design that is frozen for a couple of seasons. Different engines should be possible right off the bat and could lead to factory supported MB, VW, Toyota and Honda junior teams.
Maybe there will be lots of arguments on engines. Now F3 cars carries a engine with a production model block, if R&D actions is allowed, it may brought up the expenses as many friends here are concerning about the costs. And I raised the idea to introduce a hybrid engine because it can cut costs on fuel and equip the drivers to adapt this system as major racing series are using hybrid engines.

I agreed some opinions that a junior single seater series should allow more driver competition than R&D works.

I agree a good promoter is a essential to cut unnecessary costs on travel different places. But I don't want F3 to tie with F1 and F2 as I wants the series can have some level of flexibility, like the current F3 European Championship are support races for DTM, WTCC, Spa 24 hours and WEC.

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Hybrids , world championship ? God above , no. F3 , to survive , needs a change in mindset . The more technical and complex the cars the more they will cost and the less overtaking there will be. In the UK - and I am sure elsewhere- we are crying out for a fast and spectacular single seater formula. It needs to work in its own right and not just be the usual self delusional tosh about a footstep to F1 as there are only 20 seats in F1 and half are those are occupied by safe pairs of very old hands like Massa and Raikkonen.

300plus bhp normally aspirated 2 litres ,no trick aero and conservative construction - multi chassis fine , and engines too , but rule stability guaranteed so last year's chassis isn't worth 27p .

Thinking man's BTCC - fast , noisy cars and a TV deal (Personally I think TV has been the death of most motor sport but as most 'fans ' rarely watch live I will grudgingly allow it's needed !)
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European F3 needs to stay in Europe. However, could there be an Asian F3 championship with their own cars as well. Then standings from both combine to give a world championship. It would work similar GP2 Asia and GP2 so you have both running without calendar clashes. Most can stick to one championship while those with a bigger budget can race in both and you could even drop a few scores in case some can't make all 18-22 rounds.

They'd both would support F1, WEC or WTCC, though Europe could race at Pau and with the DTM.
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