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Old 11 Nov 2016, 09:40 (Ref:3687135)   #31
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give me Donington over Snetterton any day

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Like Rudi, I loved the old Snetterton layout, and would not miss it. 3 years ago, I did the HSCC Snetterton on the '300' layout and loathed it. I have not been back since, and will not in the future.

Whether accurate or not, I was told that the new layout was designed with modern open-wheeler cars and championships in mind and everyone else could like it or leave it.

I left.
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Presumably you guys would be OK with the 200 circuit which cuts out the 'twiddly' bits and is pretty much the old circuit with just contour changes to Sears (now Montreal) and Coram to Murrays.
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Old 11 Nov 2016, 10:40 (Ref:3687142)   #32
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Presumably you guys would be OK with the 200 circuit which cuts out the 'twiddly' bits and is pretty much the old circuit with just contour changes to Sears (now Montreal) and Coram to Murrays.
When the comments were made I didn't want to get into a 300 v 200 discussion (especially being a local!), but since you asked John....

The 200, as you say is close to the previous layout. IMO the old Sear was a pain, and now it's more of a chicane doesn't make it any worse for me. Coram is OK until it turns into Murrays! There are a lot worse corners to be found at some other circuits, however. Re, the 300 layout, I'm OK with it, Palmer is a great corner (again- IMO), and the others are no better or worse than many to be found elsewhere.....
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Old 11 Nov 2016, 10:49 (Ref:3687143)   #33
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Mike, Masters have just informed me that the revised date of 15-17 September is the correct one for the Spa 6 Hours.
Thanks John. I haven't had a reply from the race organiser- probably still recovering from this year's event!

You mentioned Chantilly Arts et Elegance falling on 10th Sept. OK, a concours, but on my bucket list. I'd put it ahead of Goodwood on the desirability list for 2017- as a spectator, at least!

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Old 11 Nov 2016, 13:12 (Ref:3687172)   #34
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Thanks John. I haven't had a reply from the race organiser- probably still recovering from this year's event!

You mentioned Chantilly Arts et Elegance falling on 10th Sept. OK, a concours, but on my bucket list. I'd put it ahead of Goodwood on the desirability list for 2017- as a spectator, at least!

Having done Chantilly for the first time this year I can thoroughly recommend it as an enjoyable, pleasant hassle-free day. It is so much more than just a concours too. Motorsport plays a part with this year including a tribute to Jean Todt's 50 years in the sport which comprised of a display of Todt-related cars from a Peugeot 504 rally car to F1 Ferrari's.

I have got a report + pics elsewhere on the internet - am I allowed to say where?
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Old 11 Nov 2016, 15:31 (Ref:3687206)   #35
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Old 11 Nov 2016, 16:25 (Ref:3687218)   #36
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Peter, if that's a 'yup' to me, my Chantilly stuff can be found on www.doubledeclutch.com Will have to scroll down a bit as there have been others since then.
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Old 11 Nov 2016, 19:43 (Ref:3687267)   #37
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When the comments were made I didn't want to get into a 300 v 200 discussion (especially being a local!), but since you asked John....

The 200, as you say is close to the previous layout. IMO the old Sear was a pain, and now it's more of a chicane doesn't make it any worse for me. Coram is OK until it turns into Murrays! There are a lot worse corners to be found at some other circuits, however. Re, the 300 layout, I'm OK with it, Palmer is a great corner (again- IMO), and the others are no better or worse than many to be found elsewhere.....
Well, like Mike, I too am a local, just ten minutes fast drive over the border in Suffolk. I ought to love it, but I too dislike the "300" internal loop and hate the modified Coram, and what should still be Russell, especially as Jim is still with us.

I happened to be at the circuit on a test day just after the works had been completed, and lo and behold JP flew in and had lunch in Tyrells.
As he finished and left the building, I congratulated him on all he and the team had done at his circuits, and for the first class work carried out at Snetterton. I did however follow up with the words that I thought he had buggered up Coram and Russell. He replied to the fact that he wanted to basically liven up and make that section more demanding for the drivers !!!

Any of us who raced the old bend and corner know full well that it was one of the most exhilarating and take a deep breath sections of many a track.

Why is it that when something works well, it has to be changed !!!!!!!!!!

When all said and done though, Jamie and all the staff are great, and Gary and his missus do run a damn good eating establishment.
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Old 11 Nov 2016, 21:49 (Ref:3687285)   #38
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It's funny how one's mind works, and what you can remember. Having raced at Snetterton 30 or 40 times during the 60s (as attested by my avatar, passing the phone box opposite the pits), I can clearly recall the Norwich Straight and the Hairpin at the end of it. I can also just about bring back mental pictures of driving through Russell's, but the rest of the track is just a blur.

What I do recall is that it was a friendly track, and I always thoroughly enjoyed racing there; in fact, it was my favourite and it suited my car and my driving. It was where I had a heart-stopping moment on my first racing lap at the circuit, and it was where I had my first overall win. I loved the track.
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Old 11 Nov 2016, 21:53 (Ref:3687287)   #39
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Nice pic, Mike! When my Dad took me to Snett in the mid 1950s the best viewing point was from atop the huge mound opposite the pit straight! I can still remember climbing it....

BUT, this thread isn't about Snetterton, unless anyone wants to specifically answer John's question in #31. I'm sure we could have the same discussion on layout changes at Silverstone!

Light bulb moment.....
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Vincent Collard has confirmed Spa 6hrs date as 15-17 Sept, as advised by John E a few posts back.

He has also given the date of his other Spa meeting, The Summer Classic. This will take place from 23-25 June 2017. Wonder if the 3 hour race will be a feature again?
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Vincent Collard has confirmed Spa 6hrs date as 15-17 Sept, as advised by John E a few posts back.

He has also given the date of his other Spa meeting, The Summer Classic. This will take place from 23-25 June 2017. Wonder if the 3 hour race will be a feature again?
My birthday! Again. I hope the three hours runs again, I've got the MGB ready. And my leave blocked out.
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Yes but let's hope they just allow historic cars this time . None of those German clowns . "Sorry Rudolf". No offence to you . . I am impressed that all these dates seem to be published very early . The G P season not finished yet .
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Yes but let's hope they just allow historic cars this time . None of those German clowns . "Sorry Rudolf". No offence to you . . I am impressed that all these dates seem to be published very early . The G P season not finished yet .
I thought a lot of the more modern German cars entered were part of the Iberian Historic Endurance- i.e. Spanish and Portugese?

Next year's F1 dates have been out for some time, so unless something changes on their calendar, Historic organisers such as Goodwood can fix their dates. Then the rest can slot in......
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Yes there was some strange driving from many of the porkers at the 3hrs.
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