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Old 9 Aug 2012, 15:03 (Ref:3117957)   #1
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So, apparently there will be a new 6 hour sportscar race at Phakisa Raceway near Welkom in South Africa on 23rd of February next year.
It seems to be open to just about anyone and anything, including all 4 Le Mans classes. Welkom is more or less in the middle of nowhere, and is likely to be hot in February, but I hope this works out.
The track will include the existing road course and part of the oval, Daytona style.
Maybe Bailey will have a run?
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Old 9 Aug 2012, 15:07 (Ref:3117959)   #2
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A bit closely placed to the Bathurst 12 Hours?
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Old 9 Aug 2012, 15:11 (Ref:3117963)   #3
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Who's idea is this? Sounds interesting but skeptical.
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Old 9 Aug 2012, 18:10 (Ref:3118010)   #4
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Well, these guys have ambition.

http://www.afriod.co.za/events.php

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Old 9 Aug 2012, 19:15 (Ref:3118024)   #5
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The configuration of the place is rather more like Twin Ring Motegi than Daytona. The road course uses none of the banking of the speedway oval.

I still consider Kyalami to be the real home of South African motorsport, and that place already has a history of sportscar endurance racing.
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Old 9 Aug 2012, 19:39 (Ref:3118032)   #6
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Apparently they are going to incorporate part of the banking on the south end of the circuit, which would be a new configuration.
Kyalami used to be great but the current layout is nothing special.
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Old 9 Aug 2012, 19:52 (Ref:3118037)   #7
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And based on the track layout and elevation changes, the new Kyalami still gets my vote.

See for yourself.

Ultima GTR at Phakisa Raceway (long road course, 2.636 miles, roughly 1:51 lap time=85.5mph average)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6RqHx7VyUo

1992 McLaren/Honda (Ayrton Senna) at Kyalami (and as of 2009, they took the chicane back out of the penultimate corner at Kyalami, 2.648-mile lap)
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Hey, don't get me wrong, I'm glad somebody is trying this again for sportscars, but I don't know if it's the right group of people to get it done, and to me, it definitely looks like the wrong track in South Africa to be doing this. I mean, I'm not sure how many places there are at Phakisa where the LMP2s would be able to get by GTs, and at a number of spots, I think it would take some real aggression to even squeeze through traffic in an LMP1.

EDIT: Mike, we'll just have to see. Even if they do add the banking at that end, I don't know how much that will help. Also, the FIA might want a chicane in there somewhere for the LM cars, which could well make it a moot point as far as adding a long, high-speed section to the road course.

It isn't what it was, but Kyalami is still a quick circuit, with great elevation changes, and at roughly 6,000ft, creates a number of altitude-related complications for racing teams; I wish F1 still had a truly high-altitude circuit on its calendar.

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Old 9 Aug 2012, 21:07 (Ref:3118059)   #8
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The "new" Kyalami is a shadow of it's former self.
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in the same way that the 'new' Nurburgring is, but just like that circuit it doesn't make it a bad track in comparison to others.
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I don't disagree, but it's still my first choice among the South African circuits, by quite a margin.

(I have recordings of the South African Grands Prix that were held from 1978-85, so I do know the old circuit. I also have "In-Car 956", in which Derek Bell goes for a few laps around the old Kyalami in his Rothmans Porsche 956.)
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Old 10 Aug 2012, 02:07 (Ref:3118144)   #11
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The "new" Kyalami is a shadow of it's former self.
Tilke hasn't been near it has he?

I've watched a little of the South African touring cars on Motors TV. Tracks seem a lil' dull to be honest.
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Tilke hasn't been near it has he?

I've watched a little of the South African touring cars on Motors TV. Tracks seem a lil' dull to be honest.
South African tracks are for the most part dull yes, I went to Kyalami growing up in South Africa at the age of 4 and 5 for the last F1 races there and don't remember much. But remember watching the Modifieds there in 86 and 87 very well, and the circuit was awesome.

Never been there, but I always thought Welkom was a very odd place to have a racetrack that hosted big events such as MotoGP as it's in the middle of nowhere (mining town).
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Would be glad to see an African team at LM24 later
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That is great, I will be looking forward to this event. Hope there will be an opportunity to watch it online somewhere - winter months are so good for watching long races.
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I've watched a little of the South African touring cars on Motors TV. Tracks seem a lil' dull to be honest.
It is.
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