'10 ALMS Round 2 • Long Beach • April 17th-18th

[FIRE]

IIRC the never raced Lexus was the only GT2S ever built.

[HORNDAWG]

Originally Posted by FIRE

IIRC the never raced Lexus was the only GT2S ever built.

The PTG/etc.. M3s did run via GT2S.




L.P.

[courageous]

didn't the drayson Aston Martin GT3 (which they started with) run gt2s as well?

[Félix]

And the BMW drivers are saying they struggle with their LMS M3 because the American one is built to other rules: GT2S.

[broadrun96]

It may not be called GT2S officially any more but they may have just rolled that class right into GT2 through waivers for whatever mods teams can make a good excuse for being necessary. The M3s run a modified suspension in the ALMS or have they switched back to LM rules installation?

[chernaudi]

ALMS M3 runs a transaxle gearbox, a modification allowed under the post-'06 GT2S rules.

I thought the LG Corvette was built up by LG and Riley from a World Challenge car(basically similar to a GT3 car at the time)?

[Fogelhund]

Originally Posted by chernaudi

I thought the LG Corvette was built up by LG and Riley from a World Challenge car(basically similar to a GT3 car at the time)?

No, it was a car designed specifically for ACO GT2 from the beginning.

[rich07]

Originally Posted by dxk1

Interesting, that entry list has the #55 listed as Tucker/BouchutTBD. Since this race conflicts with the first round of the FIA-GT World Championship, is there some doubt as to where Bouchut will be for the Weekend?

DK

The Sacred Monster looks to race at Long Beach with E-I reporting that he is to be replaced by Thomas Jager for World GT1 at Yas Marina on that weekend.

http://translate.google.com.au/trans...R2ADSA_enAU370

[old man]

Originally Posted by courageous

didn't the drayson Aston Martin GT3 (which they started with) run gt2s as well?

I don't recall the GT3 being called a GT2S, it was just entered in GT2 to allow Barwell/Drayson to get experience until the new GT2 was ready.

[Canada ALMS fan]

Orbit just entered GTC with Bryce Miller.

[joeb]

Originally Posted by Canada ALMS fan

Orbit just entered GTC with Bryce Miller.

And that brings the GTC class to 10 entries - which is the stated maximum. Don't know if all the teams for Long Beach are season entries or not.

Also Joel Feinberg is not in the Primetime car this race, anybody know why? Gerardo Bonilla is taking his place, maybe $ related or perhaps Joel is just busy.

[cmk]

Originally Posted by Canada ALMS fan

Orbit just entered GTC with Bryce Miller.

Interesting. This is where I thought the bear was going with the where is Miller-Barrett question right from the off...

[Canada ALMS fan]

Originally Posted by joeb

Also Joel Feinberg is not in the Primetime car this race, anybody know why? Gerardo Bonilla is taking his place, maybe $ related or perhaps Joel is just busy.

Might there be more to it? The team is not listed as Primetime anymore.

[Jonerz]

Does Kyle's Dad own the car? Or was it Joel?

Chris

[andy_b]

Spotter Guide will be online tomorrow (wednesday). All the helmets (of those at Sebring anyway) updated, new cars and a new liveries for one of the teams. Only missing Black Swan livery

[Jonerz]

Originally Posted by andy_b

Spotter Guide will be online tomorrow (wednesday). All the helmets (of those at Sebring anyway) updated, new cars and a new liveries for one of the teams. Only missing Black Swan livery

Nothing to be blue about Andy, you do a great job!

Chris

[ucfquattroguy]

Originally Posted by joeb

And that brings the GTC class to 10 entries - which is the stated maximum. Don't know if all the teams for Long Beach are season entries or not.

Also Joel Feinberg is not in the Primetime car this race, anybody know why? Gerardo Bonilla is taking his place, maybe $ related or perhaps Joel is just busy.

Awesome news for Gerardo! He's local to the Orlando, FL area and will run with the Auto-X/Solo II club I run with when he doesn't have other racing or Skip Barber obligations going on. The guy is truly a pleasure to watch. Very personable.

[andy_b]

Long Beach Spotter Guide is now online!


http://www.spotterguides.com/alms-2010-guide

This includes a huge updates on helmets, Dyson's Amro livery, New Level 5 Livery + new entries for Black Swan, P1, 911 Design and Orbit - all bar Black Swan with liveries.

See them first over at http://www.spotterguides.com/alms-2010-guide

Thanks to the ALMS, the teams Richard Prince, John Dagys and Martin Spetz

[fieldodreams79]

good stuff as always, Andy.

[arakis]

for all those interested the bmw gt2 will not carry 30kg. but 25kg for all the races after sebring
so gt2 class
Ferrari 430 4.0l 2*28.6mm2 1245kg,
Porsche 997 4.0l 2*28.6mm2 1245kg,
Corvette ZR1 5.5l 2*28.8mm2 1270kg,
BMW M3 gt2r 4.0l 2*//./mm2 1270kg
I don;t know the restrictor size for the bmw is it ACO 28.6 or IMSA's last year 29+

[andy_b]

JR Hilderbrandt in the Genoa LMP-C. I'll update guide tonight

[JAG]

Originally Posted by arakis

for all those interested the bmw gt2 will not carry 30kg. but 25kg for all the races after sebring
so gt2 class
Ferrari 430 4.0l 2*28.6mm2 1245kg,
Porsche 997 4.0l 2*28.6mm2 1245kg,
Corvette ZR1 5.5l 2*28.8mm2 1270kg,
BMW M3 gt2r 4.0l 2*//./mm2 1270kg
I don;t know the restrictor size for the bmw is it ACO 28.6 or IMSA's last year 29+

The last time I looked the GT2 minimum weight was 1150kg, with a handful of cars running 1200kg+ with a bigger restrictor, and in Porsches case larger tyres too, that was a few years back.

Are there any GT2 cars running under 1200kg in ACO spec?

Furthermore, if the ACO do run a single GT2 class, is there anything stopping them cutting each cars minimum weight by 50kg-100kg?

[NightStalk3r]

Originally Posted by JAG

The last time I looked the GT2 minimum weight was 1150kg, with a handful of cars running 1200kg+ with a bigger restrictor, and in Porsches case larger tyres too, that was a few years back.

Are there any GT2 cars running under 1200kg in ACO spec?

Furthermore, if the ACO do run a single GT2 class, is there anything stopping them cutting each cars minimum weight by 50kg-100kg?

The F430 and Spyker at least are running the same Tyre size, restrictor and weight as the Porsche now.

[arakis]

Originally Posted by JAG

The last time I looked the GT2 minimum weight was 1150kg, with a handful of cars running 1200kg+ with a bigger restrictor, and in Porsches case larger tyres too, that was a few years back.

Are there any GT2 cars running under 1200kg in ACO spec?

Furthermore, if the ACO do run a single GT2 class, is there anything stopping them cutting each cars minimum weight by 50kg-100kg?

All cars curently running in LMS/ALMS are running under 1245 kg, gt1 tires front and back, and larger restrictors,

Last year Ferrari was the only one that ran 1145kg and lower power and tire size, also porsche ran last tear gt1 tires only in the back while this year they are running front and back.

since every one is running same weigth rules, the ACO can lower the minimum weigt, but that would simpl make gt2 cars even fasster and from what i can figure out the aco wants to keep gt2 over 4min at le mans!!!, in 2008 some porsches and ferrari roke that barrier, and in 2009 aco add 20kg and 5% restrictor reduction witch is smart in my opinion! it gives smaller factories a chance to make competitive cars

[JHamilton]

I really looking forward to this. The break seemed longer than a month. The ALMS has always shown well and drawn nice crowds at LB. After Sebring I am a fan of the new product as well.