Champ Cars At Indy

nickyf1 · 21 Jul 2005, 09:37 (Ref:1359948)

Since f1 left indy the indianapolis road course only has about 2 events. The champ Cars should do a race there because it would be a great return to indy and, they all run on bridgestones!

luke · 21 Jul 2005, 10:33 (Ref:1359980)

Hmmm the chance of Champ Car running at Indy is nill. Even though Champ Car is more popular than the IRL there, it will never happen, do you really think TG would let them race there? And do you think Champ Car would want to race there, especially on the road course.

Kicking-back · 21 Jul 2005, 11:31 (Ref:1360005)

Clearly they would never allow this to happen.

Not sure if there's any evidence one way or the other about which is more popular though.

BootsOntheSide · 21 Jul 2005, 12:59 (Ref:1360088)

The attendance figures within mainland US are quite evenly-matched when you ignore the 500, but a lot of ChampCar races are in cities and undoubtedly get a lot of spectators who have no interest in racing for the rest of the year, whereas the IRL perhaps has a more solid fan base. Conversely, I think races which have switched from ChampCar to IRL have often lost viewers in the first year.

On topic, this is extremely unlikely. Historically there was only 1 race a year at Indy, and ti didn't make the place unpopular or unprofitable. Besides, the level of hatred between OWRS and Tony George (and some of their respective fans) just makes it extremely unlikely that they would sit down and discuss the idea.

luke · 21 Jul 2005, 13:01 (Ref:1360090)

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Originally Posted by Kicking-back

Not sure if there's any evidence one way or the other about which is more popular though.

There was a poll by an Indy newspaper voting which series was the most popular in Indiana.

Champ Car won, I have mentoined this before some where?

Electrocuted · 21 Jul 2005, 13:15 (Ref:1360108)

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Originally Posted by luke

There was a poll by an Indy newspaper voting which series was the most popular in Indiana.

Champ Car won, I have mentoined this before some where?

The poll was on the Star website....... website polls are not an accurate measure of true popularity. Website polls are a measure of how many "get out to vote, vote often, clear cookies and vote again."

The poster who has a "multiple speed-vote" program on his computer busted himself out during the Long Beach vote. He was racking up a few thousand votes within minutes.

And,,, honestly,, CART was probably more popular in INDY during the early split years? But the bankruptcy and the CC grid since then has turned a lot of people off. CC has hit bottom and will need to spend a few years rebuilding the fan base before being popular in the US.

nickyf1 · 21 Jul 2005, 13:48 (Ref:1360138)

did nobody get the bridgestone joke?

macdaddy · 21 Jul 2005, 14:01 (Ref:1360144)

This thread shows risks of degrading very quickly, so let's not allow that to happen. Let's not discuss which series is more popular, ect. It's purpose is to discuss any possibility that ChampCars may someday run on the road course at IMS. And that's all it is for...

mwrmt · 21 Jul 2005, 15:11 (Ref:1360180)

The split and dislike/hatred b/t these 2 series will never allow this to happen...

..................................................unless of course KK & GF buy IMS from TG.

**Adam43** · 21 Jul 2005, 17:09 (Ref:1360252)

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Originally Posted by nickyf1

did nobody get the bridgestone joke?

I'm afraid most people elected not to praise you on your comic mastery, but instead chose to discuss the topic. Odd.

Oh and BTW, never happen. Have a look round the CC and IRL forum to see why and also get an idea how 10 tenths works.

nickyf1 · 21 Jul 2005, 17:12 (Ref:1360257)

I was just saying and i thought it might be funny thats all

Kicking-back · 21 Jul 2005, 17:15 (Ref:1360261)

We're here to discuss motor-racing, not what "might be funny".

Electrocuted · 21 Jul 2005, 17:24 (Ref:1360270)

Oops. Back to topic,,,,,,,

It will never happen. IMS would get GrandAm or ALMS to run a "10 Hours of INDY" race.

Besides,, is F1 really out?? Bridestone has bought 20,000 tickets for next year,,, for something??

Snrub · 21 Jul 2005, 17:26 (Ref:1360273)

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Originally Posted by BootsOntheSide

The attendance figures within mainland US are quite evenly-matched when you ignore the 500, but a lot of ChampCar races are in cities and undoubtedly get a lot of spectators who have no interest in racing for the rest of the year, whereas the IRL perhaps has a more solid fan base.

Besides, the level of hatred between OWRS and Tony George (and some of their respective fans) just makes it extremely unlikely that they would sit down and discuss the idea.

I think the IRL actually has better attendance in the US if you look at raceday figures. They actually aren't doing badly at a lot of tracks. Champ Car has struggled at most of its US venues. This is where the weekend figures for Champ Car come into effect because it means they can milk the same cow twice, which presumably helps a lot. I'm not sure that the IRL does have a better fan base, just look at the TV ratings. You make a good point though.

I don't know that the Champ Car owners or TG really hate each other, although I'm sure there's some bitterness. I definately agree that it would never happen.

I agree that online polls are less than scientific, but I'm not so sure I agree that they all get corrupted. There are all sorts of political online polls done. If anyone was going to try to stuff the online voting box it would be political hatchetmen, yet those polls usually seem to have fairly reasonable results.

nickyf1 · 21 Jul 2005, 18:23 (Ref:1360307)

obviosly I was wrong, ok

Cowboy · 22 Jul 2005, 02:06 (Ref:1360534)

NickyF1, I caught the joke and had a good laugh at it.

Cowboy · 22 Jul 2005, 02:09 (Ref:1360535)

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Originally Posted by Kicking-back

We're here to discuss motor-racing, not what "might be funny".

Well, some things in motor-racing are funny. A little humor never hurt.

nickyf1 · 22 Jul 2005, 08:53 (Ref:1360652)

like your attitude

but champ cars at indy wont happen.
this idea for a thread just came into my head
(oh no i just done it again)

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