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Old 23 Oct 2009, 04:47 (Ref:2567630)   #226
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I'll believe this second Bamboo car when I see it, assuming its true which car have they purchased?
Bamboo will be running their second car at the ETC, having purchased the car being run by Duarte Felix Da Costa.
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Old 23 Oct 2009, 10:40 (Ref:2567793)   #227
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So who's going to take the plunge and knock up the traditional table of runners and riders? (I've totally lost track of who and what are appearing now!)
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Bamboo will be running their second car at the ETC, having purchased the car being run by Duarte Felix Da Costa.
Any idea which car Bamboo's second Lacetti is? The first pics on the ETCC site show it's in the blue Chevy colours with the addition of Bamboo logos, rather than Bamboo's white paintscheme as seen on Vaulkhard's car

http://www.fiaetcc.com/2k9/press/gal...W=750&maxH=550

http://www.fiaetcc.com/2k9/GalleryV3...5FFriday&id=30
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So who's going to take the plunge and knock up the traditional table of runners and riders? (I've totally lost track of who and what are appearing now!)
Doing one, will post when finished.
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Old 23 Oct 2009, 18:50 (Ref:2568202)   #231
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Any idea which car Bamboo's second Lacetti is? The first pics on the ETCC site show it's in the blue Chevy colours with the addition of Bamboo logos, rather than Bamboo's white paintscheme as seen on Vaulkhard's car

http://www.fiaetcc.com/2k9/press/gal...W=750&maxH=550
The link given shows the 2nd car acquired by Bamboo.
They're running it in blue this weekend, I'm guessing prior to bringing it back to the UK post race. Vaulkhard has confirmed that this car will be run by Bamboo in the BTCC next season (drive pending).
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Old 23 Oct 2009, 19:55 (Ref:2568247)   #232
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It's done but I think there's an issue with the table code making it look screwy. I'll post it anyway.

Note : this is not exhaustive

 
Entry
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RAC?
RAC?
RAC?
Silverline?
Silverline?
Airwaves
Airwaves
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Sunshine
Bamboo
Bamboo
Bamboo
TH
TH
Forster
Forster
Wood
Volvo
Parker
Thorney
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Sorry tried editing this to help - appears summats up with t'forum - see what it's like tomorrow - touringlegend.

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Old 24 Oct 2009, 07:10 (Ref:2568459)   #233
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I would list the teams rather and possible title sponsors as I don't think any of them other than Aon have confirmed there back in 2010.
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Old 24 Oct 2009, 09:14 (Ref:2568525)   #234
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It's done but I think there's an issue with the table code making it look screwy. I'll post it anyway.
Something like this?

EntryTeamCarDriverNotesVerdict
?Triple 8??Have Vectras, linked to Kia and othersPossible
RAC?WSRBMW 320siColin TurkingtonSurely he'll be backProbable
RAC?WSRBMW 320siStephen JelleyDittoPossible
RAC?WSRBMW 320si?Third car?Possible
Silverline?RMLChevy Lacetti?Jason PlatoReturn? Cruze?Probable
Silverline?RMLChevy Lacetti??Still Jackson? Cruze?Probable
AirwavesMotorbaseBMW 320si?Return? Still Collard?Probable
AirwavesMotorbaseBMW 320si?Return? Still Adam?Probable
?DynamicsHonda CivicMatt NealSurely going back to the family business?Probable
?DynamicsHonda Civic?More than 2cars possible - Honda backing?Probable
SunshineTech-SpeedHonda IntegraPaul O'NeillIt would be a shame for him to not be herePossible
BambooBambooChevy LacettiHarry VaulkardDone ETC with themProbable
BambooBambooChevy LacettiDuarte Félix da Costa?Done ETC with themPossible
BambooBambooChevy LacettiNathan Freke?Reports of talks with teamPossible
THTHHonda IntegraJohn GeorgeRetirement?Possible
THTHBTC-T CivicMatt HamiltonBudget?Possible
ForsterForsterBMW 320siMartin DepperLet's seeProbable
ForsterForsterBMW 320siArthur ForsterGetting funds together for second carPossible
WoodWoodHonda IntegraLea WoodAccording to TCTPossible
Volvo?Volvo C30Jason Plato?Rumour won't go away - JP claims first option on seatPossible
ParkerParkerBMW 320si?Considering?Possible
ThorneyThorneyWant BMW or VauxTom Onslow-Cole ???Autosport reporting consideringPossible
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Old 24 Oct 2009, 10:03 (Ref:2568548)   #235
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Should AON not be in the list? They're already testing.

Bamboo are running their second car as I write, preparing for next season. They also have the BTCC calendar listed on their website as dates they are competing in 2010.

Bartrum has said 'We will now go away and test, raise a good budget and come back to the championship next year knowing what we have to do to be successful', which is as good as confirmed at this stage.

I would put 888 as unlikely at present; their own website seems to concentrate on the Caparo project, and reads like they've finished with BTCC altogether.
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Old 24 Oct 2009, 10:30 (Ref:2568565)   #236
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Arena should be on the list, although not necessarily with AON. Mike Earle has said they could be looking to run 3 cars.

Agree that 888 are unlikely. There's a quote from Ian Harrison in Autosport this week admitting that they are looking at option in and out of BTCC but currently have nothing planned for BTCC.

RML have said they would like to continue but it all depends on finding a sponsor and on what cars they sell over the winter.
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As Grahame Chilton is chairman of AON Speciality, and Mike Earle has said that Tom Chilton will continue to drive for the team next year - I'm going to make a suggestion that it will continue to be Team AON backed with Chilton funds.
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1 Colin Turkington West Surrey Racing BMW 320SI
2 TBA West Surrey Racing BMW 320SI
3 Tom Chilton Arena International Ford Focus
4 TBA Arena International Ford Focus
5 TBA Arena International Ford Focus
6 Jonathan Adam Motorbase Performance BMW 320SI
7 Rob Collard Motorbase Performance BMW 320SI
8 TBA Motorbase Performance BMW 320SI
9 Harry Vaulkhard Bamboo Engineering Chevrolet Lacetti
10 Nathan Freke Bamboo Engineering Chevrolet Lacetti
11 Matt Neal Team Dynamics Honda Civic
12 Johnny Herbert Team Dynamics Honda Civic
13 Martin Depper Forster Motorsport BMW 320SI
14 Arthur Forster Forster Motorsport BMW 320SI
15 Lea Wood Team Wood Honda Integra
16 Matt Hamilton TH Motorsport Honda Civic Type-R

Likely

17 TBA Team Parker Racing BMW 320SI
18 Martyn Bell Techspeed Racing TBA
19 Paul O'Neill Techspeed Racing TBA
20 David Pinkney Team Dynamics Honda Civic
21 Michael Johnson Boulevard Team Racing TBA
22 Jason Plato Ray Mallock Limited Chevrolet Cruze
23 Mat Jackson Ray Mallock Limited Chevrolet Cruze
24 James Nash Ray Mallock Limited Chevrolet Cruze Possible
25 Andy Jordan Team Eurotech TBA
26 Gordon Shedden Club SEAT SEAT Leon
27 Erkut Kizilirmak Techspeed Racing TBA
28 Anthony Reid West Surrey Racing BMW 320SI
29 Adam Jones GR Asia SEAT Leon

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30 TBA GR Asia SEAT Leon
31 TBA Thorney Motorsport TBA
32 TBA Thorney Motorsport TBA
33 Jason Hughes Team KWR Sport MG ZS
34 TBA Team KWR Sport MG ZS
35 Nick Leason TBA TBA
36 John George TH Motorsport Honda Integra
37 Liam McMillan Maxtreme SEAT Toledo Cupra
38 Olly Mortimer TBA TBA
39 Phil Glew TBA TBA
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liam mcmillan has been running his toledo, with new engine at a track day. raf marham was the site of the test. hopefully means he'll be back.
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As Grahame Chilton is chairman of AON Speciality, and Mike Earle has said that Tom Chilton will continue to drive for the team next year - I'm going to make a suggestion that it will continue to be Team AON backed with Chilton funds.
Unless Ford are backing the team (as rumoured).
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Back on topic. Aren't AON supposed to be sponsoring Manchester United to the tune of £50m? Will they still carry on with the Ford?

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What are these rumours of Ford backing? Surely they haven't got enough money or inclination to fund a BTCC team? Even the WRC squad is reliant on BP and Abu Dhabi cash.

Would've thought, at best, a situation like we've had with Dynamics in the past, is most likely (if there is to be a change on 2009) in which Ford offer limited support.

Also I'm sure I read in Autosport a couple of weeks back that Nathan Freke's squad was looking at expanding into the Porsche Cup, with him at the driving duties. Has he been linked to Bamboo as well?

Regarding Adam and Collard at Motorbase, particularly the former, is he a "Very Likely"? I just wonder as obviously last year you'd probably have said Stephen Kane was in a similar situation, but obviously got replaced. Would've thought both Adam and Collard are likely, but not 100% signed yet (unless I've missed that of course!).

Think there's still plenty of runners on the list too who are going to need some funds, so like many have said, I don't expect to see many of those confirmed until Media Day or beyond.

Oh and one final point to discuss while I'm at it. Will Eurotech be back? I thought the team was all packed up at the end of last season, so are they likely to reform to give Andy a drive? Fair enough they've got some backing, but would it not be easier to take that to an existing team, like this year with Triple 8.
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Back on topic. Aren't AON supposed to be sponsoring Manchester United to the tune of £50m? Will they still carry on with the Ford?
Do we know roughly how much they put into the BTCC? As I can't imagine it was 'that' much (relatively) in total. Don't forget the likes of Garmin, as well as backing Dynamics have countless other sponsorship projects that are bigger (ok not £50m big!). Just because AON have signed the United deal, doesn't preclude them from other smaller deals to maintain a broad porfolio, or whatever the marketing speak is.

Also do we know if AON will still back Max Chilton in GP2 next year? So there could be a potential saving there if not, or indeed another increase of spending that would put the BTCC deal in threat, if you see what I mean.
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AON was an accidental omission. I think Arena will be back next year, but if they aren't they'll have a challenge selling those cars.
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Airwaves have dropped their sponsorship in BSB, who knows what that means for Motorbase? Good or bad. The way Motorbase have been talking it sounds like they have all confidence in retaining that deal.

I'm sure AON will be back, afterall would you start talking about winter testing if you are not sure of next year? Anyway whether AON are there or not Chilton I have no doubt will.
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Airwaves have dropped their sponsorship in BSB, who knows what that means for Motorbase? Good or bad. The way Motorbase have been talking it sounds like they have all confidence in retaining that deal.

I'm sure AON will be back, afterall would you start talking about winter testing if you are not sure of next year? Anyway whether AON are there or not Chilton I have no doubt will.
As I understand it, Airwaves are quitting BSB in favour of BTCC. I remember reading that they've have been blown away this year by the ammount of exposure sponsoring Motorbase has brought them this year compared to a season of BSB. So yes, Airwaves will continue in the BTCC next season.
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As I understand it, Airwaves are quitting BSB in favour of BTCC. I remember reading that they've have been blown away this year by the ammount of exposure sponsoring Motorbase has brought them this year compared to a season of BSB. So yes, Airwaves will continue in the BTCC next season.
Interesting that Airwaves feel that way. Assuming BSB/BTCC trackside attendances are similar, it'll be down to ITV4 coverage vs Eurosport viewing figures.
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Interesting that Airwaves feel that way. Assuming BSB/BTCC trackside attendances are similar, it'll be down to ITV4 coverage vs Eurosport viewing figures.
I think that is the main pulling point, yes. 6 hours of live race action including the 3 BTCC races live can't be bad for exposure!
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Do we know roughly how much they put into the BTCC? As I can't imagine it was 'that' much (relatively) in total. Don't forget the likes of Garmin, as well as backing Dynamics have countless other sponsorship projects that are bigger (ok not £50m big!). Just because AON have signed the United deal, doesn't preclude them from other smaller deals to maintain a broad porfolio, or whatever the marketing speak is.

Also do we know if AON will still back Max Chilton in GP2 next year? So there could be a potential saving there if not, or indeed another increase of spending that would put the BTCC deal in threat, if you see what I mean.
I imagine Tom & Max will both retain their AON backing, what with the Vice Chairman of AON Group being one Grahame Chilton...

Edit: Apologies, I see this point had already been raised back a page. Sorry for the repetition. Sorry for the repetition.

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I think its fair to say Chilton and Vaulkard are well funded drivers therefore there place on the grid is secure however I can't see either becoming champion.

I would like to see a manufacturer come in and do guest drives like in the Porsche Cup, zero ballest for the car would give new talent the chance to be put in the spotlight.
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