UK Race Venues- Changes/Improvements etc

[chezza]

Yes, but posts 2 and 6 of this thread also talk about the extension of the run off at druids, which I assumed is what the poster was asking about.

Mark - its one of the paralympic events and for a motorsport connection Alex Zinardi is due to be competing.

[ascarmarshal]

Mark it is the one of the disciplines in the Paralympic Road Cycling which will be held at Brands and the surrounding roads in September.

As far as the Graham Hill bend alterations are concerned the main reason that the work wasn't done was because planning permissions hadn't been granted by Sevenoaks District Council which has not yet been approved. I do see on the application a letter from English Heritage saying that they are considering an application for Listed Status for Brands Hatch

[Matthews Dad]

Originally Posted by Justin Moran

Styles are going in at Oulton too,

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i thought we all had style already, i mean we all turn up looking ike Tango man ( and other colours)

I hope Justin means Stiles to help us over the fences

[Justin Moran]

Originally Posted by Matthews Dad

i thought we all had style already, i mean we all turn up looking ike Tango man ( and other colours)

I hope Justin means Stiles to help us over the fences

Styles, stiles, potato, potato. Who cares? Is still not a gate is it?

[Mark Mitchell]

Justin, hope you get to be in charge of a post I'm on this year! Still not worked together since you got signed off as a trainee.

[Ian Lewis]

Originally Posted by Mark Mitchell

Justin, hope you get to be in charge of a post I'm on this year! Still not worked together since you got signed off as a trainee.

Best not be with Justin or Paul Bosman or you may be in for your first award

[kimbo]

Originally Posted by ascarmarshal

I do see on the application a letter from English Heritage saying that they are considering an application for Listed Status for Brands Hatch

Its a shame that this mob didn't put their heads above the parapet when Brooklands was demol............sorry redeveloped.
As much as I dont like the look of the 'new' Graham Hill bend, I dont see how any track could continue to function under a listed status - what about safety improvements and / or new MSA requirements?
Last one out turn off the lights!!
Kim

[KayBee]

Originally Posted by Mark Mitchell

Justin, hope you get to be in charge of a post I'm on this year!

That'll be confusing for the rest of the team because you two look very similar.

[Mark Mitchell]

Originally Posted by KayBee

That'll be confusing for the rest of the team because you two look very similar.

Im much younger!!!

[Gas bag]

Originally Posted by Mike Kelly 1

The spectator crossing point at Oulton park has been moved from Lodge to the pit straight. The spectator area on the outside of the deer leap has had a lot of the hill removed and some trees removed.

Er, so isn't that where the old 'eagle star' bridge used to be twenty five years ago??

They should have moved the marshals box at 'Knicker In' as its 100yds upstream of where it should be!!!
Can't see any contact as they are 100yds passed you and any straight on's at the Knickerbrook chicane and you can't get the numbers

[Gas bag]

Originally Posted by Justin Moran

Styles are going in at Oulton too, to assist us to get over fences to post. Better than ripping your overalls/waterproofs on the fence as you climbed through/over it I suppose.

About time, poor old Dave Brand's legs don't work anymore,it'll be easier for the 'Old uns' now

[Dave Brand]

Originally Posted by Gas bag

About time, poor old Dave Brand's legs don't work anymore,it'll be easier for the 'Old uns' now

[GoGoGadget]

Originally Posted by ALANGRUMPY

Gurston Down

Marshals suite will have a patio laid before the season starts.

Does that include the one at Karousel for the rescue crew and should we bring the patio set, parasol and sun loungers for test day


Max

[Gordon Knight]

Originally Posted by Gas bag

Er, so isn't that where the old 'eagle star' bridge used to be twenty five years ago??

They should have moved the marshals box at 'Knicker In' as its 100yds upstream of where it should be!!!
Can't see any contact as they are 100yds passed you and any straight on's at the Knickerbrook chicane and you can't get the numbers

This is a fair comment but Oulton Park cannot move the marshal's post because its position was decided by the MSA not OP., and it is designated on the circuit licence.

If enough Post Chief's raise the issue with our circuit rep Ray Sumner it could be
referred back to the MSA by OP.
Regards
Gordon

[Gas bag]

Originally Posted by Gordon Knight

This is a fair comment but Oulton Park cannot move the marshal's post because its position was decided by the MSA not OP., and it is designated on the circuit licence.

If enough Post Chief's raise the issue with our circuit rep Ray Sumner it could be
referred back to the MSA by OP.
Regards
Gordon

Will do Gordon,never spoken to a P/C yet who thinks it was moved to the correct position,and its in the firing line if you use Fosters circuit,you only need to remember the BMW last year on Fosters that nearly cleared the barrier at that location. Thanks

[Matthews Dad]

Originally Posted by Gas bag

Will do Gordon,never spoken to a P/C yet who thinks it was moved to the correct position,and its in the firing line if you use Fosters circuit,you only need to remember the BMW last year on Fosters that nearly cleared the barrier at that location. Thanks

This is a point that the Fosters box is in the right place, as it wasn't in the line of fire of the BMW's

I was in the Box as IO and watched the two coming down the hill with the feeling that it wasnt going to end well, but felt quite safe in the box, as it was the "Knickerbrook in" flag point that they assulted with full speed and nearly got through the Armco,

From a personal point of view it is when the other circuits are in use that the box is to far up hill towards Hill top

[Gas bag]

Originally Posted by Matthews Dad

This is a point that the Fosters box is in the right place, as it wasn't in the line of fire of the BMW's

I was in the Box as IO and watched the two coming down the hill with the feeling that it wasnt going to end well, but felt quite safe in the box, as it was the "Knickerbrook in" flag point that they assulted with full speed and nearly got through the Armco,

From a personal point of view it is when the other circuits are in use that the box is to far up hill towards Hill top

Yes that's a fair point,i was on Knicker 'out' that day,however when it was approx 100yds downstream of its present location IMHO it wasn't in the firing line when it was Fosters circuit and it was in any more of a firing line where it was when we were on full circuit.
We tend to use full circuit more nowadays and if you have been in the box and there are perhaps multiple contacts coming in to the chicane they usually happen passed you and it's very hard to get numbers etc (unless of course they stop!!) and if they carry straight on at the chicane you have to rely on Knicker 'out' to call in numbers,it's just in the wrong spot IMHO.

Anyway,don't think we should debate as I'll get my legs smacked for discussing on this forum

[Mark Mitchell]

*BUMP*
Any improvements or changes to our circuits for 2016?

[Gordon Knight]

Originally Posted by Mark Mitchell

*BUMP*
Any improvements or changes to our circuits for 2016?

Hi Mark...quite a bit of change at Oulton Park. The "spine " between Shell and Fulstons is no more. All the earth banking and truck tyres are going, to be replaced by armco.
Gravel traps at Island Bend are being extended to slow the cars before they get to
the new armco.
Not sure yet what the set up will be for marshals at Island/Fulstons
and Island out flags. I will find out more when I return to mid week duty at the end of this month.
Given that most of the time lost from incidents in this part of the circuit
has been due to tyre wall rebuilds, these changes should be good news for the organising clubs.
Regards
Gordon

[Asp]

Originally Posted by Gordon Knight

Hi Mark...quite a bit of change at Oulton Park. The "spine " between Shell and Fulstons is no more. All the earth banking and truck tyres are going, to be replaced by armco.
Gravel traps at Island Bend are being extended to slow the cars before they get to
the new armco.
Not sure yet what the set up will be for marshals at Island/Fulstons
and Island out flags. I will find out more when I return to mid week duty at the end of this month.
Given that most of the time lost from incidents in this part of the circuit
has been due to tyre wall rebuilds, these changes should be good news for the organising clubs.
Regards
Gordon

There's an aerial photo showing the changes on the MSV website.
I think it's probably the area that was most in need of improvement, and the drainage works too will be a big help (from experience of the colour of some riders after they'd fallen off!!) so definitively positive from my perspective.
I too will be interested to see what the set up is for marshals previously based on the spine, especially flag points - the aerial photo looks to have two sides up to a point which will mean access is still maintained but it's certainly not clear at the minute.

[Dave Brand]

Originally Posted by Asp

There's an aerial photo showing the changes on the MSV website.

It'll be a lot easier to get to incidents through the gaps in the Armco than it was climbing off the tyre walls & back on again!

The wider run-off going into Shell will help immensely & better drainage should help eliminate the quagmire on the Island side, which will mean than a lot of the cars which would have got bogged down will now just be able to drive off.

The circuit guys have shifted a fair bit of muck (technical farmers' term!) over the winter!

[Woolley]

Originally Posted by Dave Brand

The circuit guys have shifted a fair bit of muck (technical farmers' term!) over the winter!

Where's Blaster Bates when you need him?

[justracing]

Out of curiosity I was just wondering whether or not there are lap position boards at Oulton these days. I haven't been there for 10 years and being an MSV circuit I assume that the like other circuits, B/Hatch for instance where I have been a season ticket holder for years and Cadwell which I visited last year, the lap position boards have completely disappeared. It's been a bone of contention of mine for ages and I have taken it up with B/Hatch but I'm informed that it's too expensive to consider installing something up to date to inform the spectator of race positions. There is I understand an "app" should you be in possession of suitable mobile device but unfortunately my funding does not run to such luxuries!

[Dave Brand]

Originally Posted by Woolley

Where's Blaster Bates when you need him?

On standby at Knickerbrook!

[Mark Mitchell]

Gordon, thanks for the update ����