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Old 12 Oct 2010, 12:47 (Ref:2773777)   #26
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I think they should now give DC a regular spot in each GP programme to lampoon a driver/team/sponsor of his choosing......
Yo, dude, crazy Dave hee-ah...

Sniff petrol may have had it right after all.
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Old 12 Oct 2010, 14:37 (Ref:2773824)   #27
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No, we must be serious, don't you know!
Hang fire a minute. i didn't start the thread to say this was an outrage and what was he thinking and theres no room for good banter in f1 and all that caper. Just mearly pointing out it was a bit touch and go given the fact he's a contracted Mercedes driver in DTM. I thought it was brilliant and as mentioned before great british wit if not a bit mis-placed.

I mean Cesc Fabregas wore a Barcalona top on the celebrations for the spanish world cup squads triumph. That didn't bother me either it was a bit of fun but you dont have to be a genius to work out its probably not the smartest thing he's ever done do you?
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Old 12 Oct 2010, 14:42 (Ref:2773828)   #28
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I think we appreciate the spirit in which the thread was intended Dan, although it has been taken rather more seriously than some think it should be.....
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Old 12 Oct 2010, 14:58 (Ref:2773838)   #29
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People should remember that Coulthard is not independent, he is a employee of Red Bull and his comments should be considered to be those of a Red Bull spokesperson.

The BBC would be better off getting someone who is not employed by one of the teams or sponsors involved, and until then provide a 'declaration of interest' everytime Coulthard appears.
So you are saying that the BBC should treat people as if they are stupid and can't think for themselves.
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Old 12 Oct 2010, 21:07 (Ref:2774017)   #31
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Old 12 Oct 2010, 22:33 (Ref:2774064)   #32
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I hope this isn't a serious suggestion. Although I do agree that Coulthard's pro-Red Bull bias is tiresome. He hasn't really been out of F1 long enough to lose his allegiances.
I don't find Coulthards pro Red Bull bias nearly as irritating as Brundle's constant sniping at Schumacher. He makes a disparaging remark about Schumacher blowing him off before he even goes near him.
I had a great deal of respect for Brundle, and his ugly jealousy reduces this respect considerably.
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Old 13 Oct 2010, 07:59 (Ref:2774198)   #33
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I think we appreciate the spirit in which the thread was intended Dan, although it has been taken rather more seriously than some think it should be.....
Couldn't agree more. Can't believe there's 3 pages worth of discussion tbh...

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Old 13 Oct 2010, 08:40 (Ref:2774213)   #34
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I don't find Coulthards pro Red Bull bias nearly as irritating as Brundle's constant sniping at Schumacher. He makes a disparaging remark about Schumacher blowing him off before he even goes near him.
I had a great deal of respect for Brundle, and his ugly jealousy reduces this respect considerably.
Well, for what it's worth IMO, a returning multiple WDC opens himself up to criticism if he's clearly no longer up to par.... I'm with Brundle.

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Old 13 Oct 2010, 09:29 (Ref:2774254)   #35
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So you are saying that the BBC should treat people as if they are stupid and can't think for themselves.
I thought that was ITV's job?
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Old 13 Oct 2010, 19:10 (Ref:2774512)   #36
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I don't find Coulthards pro Red Bull bias nearly as irritating as Brundle's constant sniping at Schumacher. He makes a disparaging remark about Schumacher blowing him off before he even goes near him.
I had a great deal of respect for Brundle, and his ugly jealousy reduces this respect considerably.
Doesn't TGF have a history of not particularly wanting to do interviews on the grid though? I got the impression that that was why Brundle made a comment about it on Sunday.
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Old 13 Oct 2010, 21:40 (Ref:2774579)   #37
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Doesn't TGF have a history of not particularly wanting to do interviews on the grid though? I got the impression that that was why Brundle made a comment about it on Sunday.
So in essence Brundle is trying to set up Schumacher. Makes a disparaging remark about how he will be treated before proceeding to do something he knows Schumacher doesn't like. Is actually well received, then tries to denigrate the drivers performance, finds that there are sound technical reasons that Schumacher is not further up the grid because the F-duct is sticking, and when he doesn't like the answer walks off before Schumacher has finished talking to him.

Not Mr Brundle's best work.

Sorry I forgot his job is to criticise and orchestrate put downs on Schumacher, not to allow him to speak to the British audience.
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Wow, some impressive reading between the lines mixed with mighty sarcasm there.
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I don't find Coulthards pro Red Bull bias nearly as irritating as Brundle's constant sniping at Schumacher. He makes a disparaging remark about Schumacher blowing him off before he even goes near him.
I had a great deal of respect for Brundle, and his ugly jealousy reduces this respect considerably.
I respect the fact that you are a Schumacher fan - but having watched every race that Brundle has commentated on for the BBC, I cannot agree with your statement that he has constantly sniped at Schumacher - and have witnessed no evidence to support your assertion that he shows "ugly jealousy" of anyone. I believe you are allowing your allegiance to Schumacher to give exagerated bias to your perception and therefore your commentary on what in reality is going on and what anyone, including Brundle, has to say about your hero.
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So in essence Brundle is trying to set up Schumacher. Makes a disparaging remark about how he will be treated before proceeding to do something he knows Schumacher doesn't like. Is actually well received, then tries to denigrate the drivers performance, finds that there are sound technical reasons that Schumacher is not further up the grid because the F-duct is sticking, and when he doesn't like the answer walks off before Schumacher has finished talking to him.

Not Mr Brundle's best work.

Sorry I forgot his job is to criticise and orchestrate put downs on Schumacher, not to allow him to speak to the British audience.

All I can say is you must have been watching something very different to me..... Brundle was clearly obliged to try and get Herr Shymacher to say something - it was hardly setting him up.... Michael was obviously in no mood to talk and even when Brundle started in a semi-congratulatory mode by commenting on his position on the grid, he received a monosyllabic answer. I completely disagree with your view - it wasn't what I heard or saw at all.
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Well, for what it's worth IMO, a returning multiple WDC opens himself up to criticism if he's clearly no longer up to par.... I'm with Brundle.

I emphasise - that's my opinion.
Mine too. A first year F1 newcomer achieving what Schumi has achieved this year would be struggling to keep his seat for a second year in F1.
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Well, for what it's worth IMO, a returning multiple WDC opens himself up to criticism if he's clearly no longer up to par.... I'm with Brundle.

I emphasise - that's my opinion.
Totally agree. My opinion as well.
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He makes a disparaging remark about Schumacher blowing him off before he even goes near him.
I had a great deal of respect for Brundle, and his ugly jealousy reduces this respect considerably.
I apreciate what you're saying but in fairness to MB talking to Schumacher is a new thing. I remember in the early noughties he would make the same "disparaging remark" and ask for a quick word only for schumacher to shake his head with a smug grin or turn around completley. Maybe now schumacher has lightened up the remarks will stop.

If you saw the testimonial to Schumacher's career in 2006 after he retired on ITV you would have seen Martin Brundle holds Schumacher in very high regard, and has just as many good words to say about him as his fans do.
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With you here a 100%

At least it was an honest jibe and a bit of real human interaction - based in fact, and not a lot of politically correct rubbish!

Norbert and Ross have admitted the car is rubbish anyway.

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No come back at all, they seemed a confused as how to take it.
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Old 14 Oct 2010, 18:21 (Ref:2775018)   #45
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