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Old 29 Apr 2016, 17:06 (Ref:3637135)   #751
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Or just add more lights?

Doesn't seem to affect touring cars.
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Old 29 Apr 2016, 17:19 (Ref:3637139)   #752
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That helmet also is sitting much higher than it does when the driver is actually in the car.
It shouldn't be if the test is to be accurate.
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Old 29 Apr 2016, 17:54 (Ref:3637152)   #753
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To my mind they are trying to 'retro fit' a protective design onto a current F1 chassis. Surely if they wanted to make this a goer they would have to design the car around the cockpit and make it a bit like an LMP1/2 design and incorporate driver entry and exit/extraction from the side. Obviously this brings cockpit cooling and misting into the equation, but looking at the Red Bull option I imagine that will be pretty hard to see through in a wet race.
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Old 29 Apr 2016, 19:43 (Ref:3637183)   #754
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It shouldn't be if the test is to be accurate.
Yes, but compare where it's sitting to where Ricciardo's helmet is in the car.
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Old 29 Apr 2016, 19:55 (Ref:3637187)   #755
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Yes, but compare where it's sitting to where Ricciardo's helmet is in the car.
It looks like Ricciardo's helmet is lower than the dummy head in the testing rig, so if they want to do the test properly they should lower the dummy head, to the same height as Ricciardo's helmet.
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Old 29 Apr 2016, 23:34 (Ref:3637235)   #756
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Massa apparently prefers the halo concept, which is ironic seeing as it most likely wouldn't have prevented him from being hit by the spring at Hungaroring.
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Old 30 Apr 2016, 00:38 (Ref:3637240)   #757
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It looks like the Batmobile.
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Old 30 Apr 2016, 00:58 (Ref:3637243)   #758
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It looks like the Batmobile.
Which one?
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F1 is an open cockpit formula so they should abandon these screens. The most appropriate solution is to make the drivers helmet much larger and stronger and mount it to the car.
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Or just add more lights?

Doesn't seem to affect touring cars.
I remember a race where a sunstrip did obscur the lights. In the next race the
team cut a section out of it! The suns trips were massive. It's rare, but worth checking. The problem is it may well vary by track.

I don't think this is a big issue though.

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Old 30 Apr 2016, 11:32 (Ref:3637301)   #761
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I feel the best option is the screen. It don't look too bad, especially compared to the halo and the only thing they need to sort out is if the screen gets dirty through oil or water.

Not the first time we've seen a screen on an F1 car, remember the Protos?
And McLaren and Ferrari have tested it in the past
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The amount of road blocks people put up to this to cover their own prejudices is ridiculous. For all the anti-canopy claims I've read, there's not a single one that actually stands up to a logical counter argument or rigorous examination of fact.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for reasoned debate and the discussion of real issues because this needs to ensure drivers are actually safer but for the most part the objections being spouted are poorly thought out disguises for "I like F1 the way it is"

When it comes down to it though, a closed cockpit works in prototypes so it can be made to work here.


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There's a July 1 deadline for teams to agree on which cockpit protection device for the 2017 season.

http://classic.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/124054

However, Bernie is against any form of cockpit protection.

http://classic.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/124057
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If that is right,. then surely the FIA should be urging one of the other design teams to show what a full enclosed cockpit could look like. I appreciate that to mock one up for running on a track would be incredibly difficult but proper design renderings would be good to see.
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