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Old 3 Dec 2014, 06:57 (Ref:3481351)   #76
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As it is now, there are still a lot of variations in all cars across the field.

It still surprises me how much freedom there still is, in what was touted as a control chassis.
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Old 3 Dec 2014, 06:59 (Ref:3481352)   #77
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As it is now, there are still a lot of variations in all cars across the field.

It still surprises me how much freedom there still is, in what was touted as a control chassis.
The big freedoms are in the front suspension & the damper package as a minimum... if these are tightened up in the next round of Generational change... the cost might actually come down...
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Old 3 Dec 2014, 07:34 (Ref:3481357)   #78
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You'd imagine so.

There seems to be a fairly broad window in which to mount suspension pick-up points to the front chassis rails in them. My opinion on this would've been to mandate set locations for the suspension arms, +/- a small tolerance, but allow say 3 mounting points from that location using a control design bracket. You'd still have adjustability, but it alleviates the R&D costs.

The other, would be homologated engine crossmembers, which also tie into the front end. But of course, this will never happen while there's an open-slather approach to engine suppliers...
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Old 3 Dec 2014, 09:13 (Ref:3481383)   #79
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Sure that I like to see winners rewarded for their efforts, but would you like to see a driver dominating all races?
Doesn't Jamie Whincup do this now
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Old 3 Dec 2014, 09:30 (Ref:3481391)   #80
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Doesn't Jamie Whincup do this now
Mostly.
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Old 3 Dec 2014, 10:28 (Ref:3481414)   #81
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This news coincides nicely with that Lexus story. I hope they open up the body rules a bit for more variety in terms of aero and look.
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Old 3 Dec 2014, 11:15 (Ref:3481428)   #82
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I would like to see aero changes too, but I hope that it's tough and not being flimsy, apart from having more downforce.
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Old 3 Dec 2014, 11:47 (Ref:3481437)   #83
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Less aero grip would be better, let's have some movement and driver ability.
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Old 3 Dec 2014, 12:19 (Ref:3481445)   #84
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So going down the WTCC/DTM/Group A classes. Here's a brilliant idea. Leave it up to Aus GT or bring back the production series. Simple.
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Old 3 Dec 2014, 20:48 (Ref:3481604)   #85
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Ugh, not looking forward to the inevitable invasion of small, silly hatchbacks come 2017. It's a shame. One of the reasons I much prefer the V8 SuperCars is that it still features proper cars (unlike, say, the WTCC). Wouldn't surprise me if Penske is second-guessing his decision to get involved already.



But, hopefully I'm being overly pessimistic.
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Old 3 Dec 2014, 21:25 (Ref:3481621)   #86
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Ugh, not looking forward to the inevitable invasion of small, silly hatchbacks come 2017. It's a shame. One of the reasons I much prefer the V8 SuperCars is that it still features proper cars (unlike, say, the WTCC). Wouldn't surprise me if Penske is second-guessing his decision to get involved already.



But, hopefully I'm being overly pessimistic.
The cars still have to fit the existing chassis so I doubt small hatches will be in it.
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Old 3 Dec 2014, 21:56 (Ref:3481633)   #87
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Wonder what provides the better aero Sedan or Hatch (yes "better" is a broad word)
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Old 4 Dec 2014, 01:12 (Ref:3481681)   #88
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Hatch or coupe?
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Old 4 Dec 2014, 01:23 (Ref:3481683)   #89
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If you had botherred to read the article you would see that the current spec floorpan is used.
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Old 4 Dec 2014, 02:05 (Ref:3481687)   #90
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Exactly - the release mentions four seats but not four doors. Sounds to me like coupes such as Mustang, Camaro, Challenger etc could all fit in. Plus many others of course.
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Old 4 Dec 2014, 04:26 (Ref:3481700)   #91
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That's how i read it too, but no 2 door 2 seaters for example.

What does that rule out though that would potentially be seen by manufacturers as a likely entry?
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Old 4 Dec 2014, 06:46 (Ref:3481715)   #92
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Paritise every car to be the same... aero, weights over axles, engine power/torque etc etc etc... then its a matter for the set up gurus and the pilots to get the very best from the cars.

Much better than success ballast
I want to see the genius who is going to make every engine perform the same. Trying to make a supercharged six cylinder do the same as a NA V8 and as a turbo four cylinder should be an awesome job.
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Old 4 Dec 2014, 08:20 (Ref:3481745)   #93
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Will be interesting to see how they keep a lid on development of the turbo engines.
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Old 4 Dec 2014, 21:33 (Ref:3481969)   #94
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If you had botherred to read the article you would see that the current spec floorpan is used.
I blame Autosport They don't mention anything about the floor: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/117014

Given I've had to suffer through the "evolution" of the FIA touring car scene, which went from larger, great looking race cars to slow, tiny ones you might understand I'm worried.
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Old 4 Dec 2014, 23:16 (Ref:3482006)   #95
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I want to see the genius who is going to make every engine perform the same. Trying to make a supercharged six cylinder do the same as a NA V8 and as a turbo four cylinder should be an awesome job.
The biggest problem along with drag / aero.
They struggle to keep it correct with limited options.
Prepare for whinging, bleating, moaning from everyone not running first like never before. And then there's the opinions from whats left of the fans.
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Old 5 Dec 2014, 00:42 (Ref:3482027)   #96
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Prepare for whinging, bleating, moaning from everyone not running first like never before. And then there's the opinions from whats left of the fans.
So no change from what we currently have.
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The biggest problem along with drag / aero.
They struggle to keep it correct with limited options.
Prepare for whinging, bleating, moaning from everyone not running first like never before. And then there's the opinions from whats left of the fans.
Watching Roland jump up and down will be fun.
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So no change from what we currently have.
it's why I added "like never before"

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That's how i read it too, but no 2 door 2 seaters for example.

What does that rule out though that would potentially be seen by manufacturers as a likely entry?
SLS, Corvette, Viper, 370Z, Z4, etc, etc.
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Which are all already in GT3, so may not be an issue for those manufacturers
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