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Old 31 Jan 2018, 08:19 (Ref:3797094)   #16
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sweet looking rigs. Woudl eb happy with this going forward.

Are you there GTR?
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Old 1 Feb 2018, 03:18 (Ref:3797342)   #17
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Just as it would be interesting to see what a Supercar could do around Bathurst on pukka Pirelli GT-spec tyres...
1 control tyre as opposed to another control tyre. What are your expectations?
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Old 1 Feb 2018, 03:23 (Ref:3797344)   #18
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1 control tyre as opposed to another control tyre. What are your expectations?
well, i would think logically is that it might be quicker, it might be slower or it might be similar

however i think that his expectation is the pirelli might be a bit quicker seeing how its 3 times the price
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Old 1 Feb 2018, 04:06 (Ref:3797350)   #19
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When COTF was introduced they could have reduced the power of the engine (limiting compression, cam duration and lift, 7000rpm rev limit) and no one would have known or cared, all cars would be the same. That would have reduced stress on the transmission etc. which would have reduced breakages and costs.

Someones ego must have got in the way when COTF regs were designed because they used the racer mantra of 'more power, go faster' instead of doing what the category needed to achieve the desired outcome. The plan was to save the teams money so they changed the transmission away from what everyone had in stock, how was that saving money?

The MARC cars are demonstrating what could have, should have happened with COTF, which would have saved everyone a lot of money.... and those Mustangs look good.
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Old 1 Feb 2018, 04:16 (Ref:3797353)   #20
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When COTF was introduced they could have reduced the power of the engine (limiting compression, cam duration and lift, 7000rpm rev limit) and no one would have known or cared, all cars would be the same. That would have reduced stress on the transmission etc. which would have reduced breakages and costs.
You forget that carrying over the engines saved teams millions of dollars in costs, when COTF was already a big cost to change. Well and good to make these sorts of statements but more things are at play.
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When COTF was introduced they could have reduced the power of the engine (limiting compression, cam duration and lift, 7000rpm rev limit) and no one would have known or cared, all cars would be the same. That would have reduced stress on the transmission etc. which would have reduced breakages and costs.

Someones ego must have got in the way when COTF regs were designed because they used the racer mantra of 'more power, go faster' instead of doing what the category needed to achieve the desired outcome. The plan was to save the teams money so they changed the transmission away from what everyone had in stock, how was that saving money?

The MARC cars are demonstrating what could have, should have happened with COTF, which would have saved everyone a lot of money.... and those Mustangs look good.
Cheaper transmission, cost less to maintain, gave plenty of notice so that teams could run out old stock. Really no one has complained about this.

MARC cars are similar to a supercar, uses a similar transmission to what you are complaining about, but with a standard motor instead of a motor that is open to a level of competition
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Old 1 Feb 2018, 05:02 (Ref:3797357)   #22
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Cheaper transmission, cost less to maintain, gave plenty of notice so that teams could run out old stock. Really no one has complained about this.
If you want to actually be accurate, this part of your post should read:
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.Cheaper transmission, cost way more to maintain and takes way more time to maintain, gave plenty of notice so that teams could run out old stock. Everyone has complained long and loud about this but have done so internally rather than damaging the series & ultimately get on with making it work somehow.
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Old 1 Feb 2018, 23:37 (Ref:3797604)   #24
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Still got the awkward proportions of a sports sedan, I actually prefer the MARC 1 car.
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Old 1 Feb 2018, 23:42 (Ref:3797605)   #25
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agreeing with you, Assume that all about aero.

Supercars would clean that up a bit of they went a similar way

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Old 3 Feb 2018, 04:22 (Ref:3797918)   #26
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Mustang looks like this now*, hence reflected in the MARC styling. IIRC, Ford has lowered the bonnet-line (hood line!) slightly compared to the pre-facelift.


*Yet to be releasd in Australia, but forthcoming.
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