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Old 25 Jan 2018, 01:36 (Ref:3794849)   #1
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Since the first MARC cars were introduced I thought that it was showing Supercars what could have been (should have been) with COTF, now they bring out MARC 2 and all I can think of is WOW!!! Quicker than a Supercar around Bathurst and half the price.

Did Supercars miss the boat?

I always believed that if they were serious about reducing budgets with the introduction of COTF they should have reduced the power of the engine, which reduces stress on the engine and driveline, reduces rebuild cost, reduce transmission failures.....blah blah blah

Why is a supercar so much more expensive?
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Old 25 Jan 2018, 06:06 (Ref:3794866)   #2
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That is one sweet looking race car. Wow!
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Old 25 Jan 2018, 09:24 (Ref:3794893)   #3
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Since the first MARC cars were introduced I thought that it was showing Supercars what could have been (should have been) with COTF, now they bring out MARC 2 and all I can think of is WOW!!! Quicker than a Supercar around Bathurst and half the price.

Did Supercars miss the boat?

I always believed that if they were serious about reducing budgets with the introduction of COTF they should have reduced the power of the engine, which reduces stress on the engine and driveline, reduces rebuild cost, reduce transmission failures.....blah blah blah

Why is a supercar so much more expensive?
Agree 100%, Supercars will probably have to go this way as there appears to be ZERO interest in GenII or GenIII
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Old 25 Jan 2018, 10:48 (Ref:3794920)   #4
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The philosophies of COTF and the MARC are not really that much different are they? I hardly think costs will be much cheaper if Supercars adopted the MARC regs for the series.

The MARC will not be be quicker than a Supercar around Bathurst, they won't be allowed below a 2m06
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Old 25 Jan 2018, 12:20 (Ref:3794940)   #5
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Would be interesting to see what they could do without the lap limit though
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Old 25 Jan 2018, 15:39 (Ref:3794983)   #6
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Would be interesting to see what they could do without the lap limit though
Just as it would be interesting to see what a Supercar could do around Bathurst on pukka Pirelli GT-spec tyres...
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Old 25 Jan 2018, 18:47 (Ref:3795048)   #7
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Old 25 Jan 2018, 23:48 (Ref:3795146)   #8
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Just as it would be interesting to see what a Supercar could do around Bathurst on pukka Pirelli GT-spec tyres...
If only Supercars opened up the tyre rules then maybe we could see
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If only Supercars opened up the tyre rules then maybe we could see
Opening the tyre supply up won’t happen. Thank goodness.
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Old 26 Jan 2018, 04:21 (Ref:3795189)   #10
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Opening the tyre supply up won’t happen. Thank goodness.
Definitely thank goodness, we wouldn't want anything encouraging competition in the Championship now would we
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Definitely thank goodness, we wouldn't want anything encouraging competition in the Championship now would we
Ciggie money is gone.

Bridgestone tyres were largely developed by the largesse of the Philip Morris tobacco company with GSR, whilst the Yokohama product was lovingly tested and developed with the support and assistance of WD & HO Wills with GMS. While Dunlop took input from everywhere, including customers, and succeeded anyway.

Those days are gone.

And its not on the back of anti-competitiveness, its financial sensibility.
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Old 26 Jan 2018, 07:49 (Ref:3795201)   #12
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Tyre companies aren't that interested in directly competing with eachother on track.

They do all their winning in the tender process, to become the control tyre. As seen in the majority of motorsport catagories in Australia. It's an easy way to help sustainablilty, by capping the costs, and going some way to shoring up the playing field.
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Old 26 Jan 2018, 23:32 (Ref:3795335)   #13
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Bridgestone tyres were largely developed by the largesse of the Philip Morris tobacco company with GSR, whilst the Yokohama product was lovingly tested and developed with the support and assistance of WD & HO Wills with GMS. While Dunlop took input from everywhere, including customers, and succeeded anyway.
I remember the days where GMS were basically testing _every day_
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Old 27 Jan 2018, 00:37 (Ref:3795343)   #14
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Ciggie money is gone.

Bridgestone tyres were largely developed by the largesse of the Philip Morris tobacco company with GSR, whilst the Yokohama product was lovingly tested and developed with the support and assistance of WD & HO Wills with GMS. While Dunlop took input from everywhere, including customers, and succeeded anyway.

Those days are gone.

And its not on the back of anti-competitiveness, its financial sensibility.
And heaven forbid anyone wanting to run a combination of hard and soft tyres. Supercars were quick to put and end to that.
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