Henri Pescarolo... where are you? - Page 15

AndrewF31 · 20 Jun 2009, 13:01 (Ref:2486943)

It's gonna be interesting to see how the team will be managed under the SORA name. Will Pescarolo still have the reigns or will the new management sponsored by SORA want to go down a different road??

We all know how much Pescarolo loves his Pescarolo car but will SORA want to go for the wins, especially if Audi and Peugeot are still around by striking a deal for Peugeot cars?

cmk · 20 Jun 2009, 21:30 (Ref:2487174)

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Originally Posted by Dead-Eye

Were the factory cars new builds for this year? If so there should still be enough surplus '08 spec ones.

I don't know whether they were new tubs. Henri's was the test car though - whether or not that means it was the new-for-'09 test car or they didn't have any old '08 cars either is unclear. Of course the '08 cars took rather a beating and there weren't enough left together in one piece for more than a single PLM entry...

Dario911 · 29 Jun 2009, 14:02 (Ref:2493310)

I would suggest to Henri to ask a really competitive engine to the Porsche. In Germany, someone would be interested in this partership...
Pescarolo's chassis is very competitive, as declared by Treluyer who compared it to the Peugeot's one.
It's more reactive than the 908's one. He's been really impressed from Pescarolo!
With a good engine, a great drivers lineup, the Pescarolo would be extremely competitive!
I would be delighted to see a Pescarolo LMP1 on the highest step of the podium in Le Mans!
Henri, we all are waiting for you and your wonderful cars!

Adri_tifosi · 29 Jun 2009, 14:45 (Ref:2493340)

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Originally Posted by Dario911

I would suggest to Henri to ask a really competitive engine to the Porsche. In Germany, someone would be interested in this partership...
Pescarolo's chassis is very competitive, as declared by Treluyer who compared it to the Peugeot's one.
It's more reactive than the 908's one. He's been really impressed from Pescarolo!
With a good engine, a great drivers lineup, the Pescarolo would be extremely competitive!
I would be delighted to see a Pescarolo LMP1 on the highest step of the podium in Le Mans!
Henri, we all are waiting for you and your wonderful cars!

What engine ? if you want to win in LMP1 you need a diesel and why Porsche want to compete against Audi ?

CTD · 29 Jun 2009, 16:38 (Ref:2493421)

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Originally Posted by Adri_tifosi

What engine ? if you want to win in LMP1 you need a diesel and why Porsche want to compete against Audi ?

If you want to win LMP1 you don't need a diesel, you need a factory supported engine program (like the Peugeot, Audi and P2 Porsche and Acura). Diesel is only better because of the budgets there is going into them!

Dario911 · 29 Jun 2009, 18:01 (Ref:2493457)

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Originally Posted by CTD

If you want to win LMP1 you don't need a diesel, you need a factory supported engine program (like the Peugeot, Audi and P2 Porsche and Acura). Diesel is only better because of the budgets there is going into them!

Good point! That's what I think, too. Not a diesel, but a factory support!

Adri_tifosi · 29 Jun 2009, 19:14 (Ref:2493488)

Do you think any factory will start a petrol engine program with the current diesel advantage ? Nobody want to waste their money in a customer team with the current regulation and fight with two works team with diesel engine.

**FIRE** · 29 Jun 2009, 19:41 (Ref:2493503)

Pescarolo-Acura....

dxk1 · 29 Jun 2009, 22:16 (Ref:2493591)

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Originally Posted by Adri_tifosi

Do you think any factory will start a petrol engine program with the current diesel advantage ? Nobody want to waste their money in a customer team with the current regulation and fight with two works team with diesel engine.

With the move to the new smaller engines coming for LMP1, no one has a Diesel yet to meet those (or do they?). So a petrol engine might be the right ticket. The Porsche engine would seem to be the right choice. Maybe Dario911 has it right, a Pescarolo with a Porsche RS Spyder engine.

DK

supermario21 · 30 Jun 2009, 03:35 (Ref:2493656)

Audi actually tried this experiment a few years back with Swiss Spirit running a Lola with an Audi R8 engine in the back. The car was not a success, lacking reliability and speed compared to the diesels. The car was yanked after 2 races.

The Badger · 30 Jun 2009, 05:50 (Ref:2493673)

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Originally Posted by supermario21

Audi actually tried this experiment a few years back with Swiss Spirit running a Lola with an Audi R8 engine in the back. The car was not a success, lacking reliability and speed compared to the diesels. The car was yanked after 2 races.

Didnt exactly get much track time . No reason why it couldnt have been a decent car with a bit more testing , it had all the quick bits .

isynge · 30 Jun 2009, 08:09 (Ref:2493734)

The disappearance of the Lola-Audi was a big disappointment of 2007 for me. The car appeared to have a lot of potential - and my understanding was that the pulling of the car had a lot more to do with disagreements within the team running it (such as arguments over who actually owned the car) than it being a performance failure.

Indeed, the failure to make the most of the package can probably be put down to the relative lack of focus among the core team - as Kolles, and others who ran 'private' R8s have shown, Audis are not exactly turnkey race cars and need a very focused team to run them well. For me what a frontline engine could have done in a developed LMP1 chassis is one of the big 'what ifs' of the 06/07 period.

Going back a year or so, I'd have seen Pescarolo and Porsche as natural bedfellows - as a driver he had his moments in Porsches (OT - without trekking downstairs to consult Time and Two Seats, did he ever run a 917? Gut feeling says no but always worth a check) and with Collard and Dumas on the driving squad there was the extant link. Now obviously with the Peugeot rapprochement and the internal politics at Porsche/VAG (when do we start calling them Auto Union?) I think the possibility has receded a bit - which is a shame.

CTD · 1 Jul 2009, 17:44 (Ref:2494623)

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Originally Posted by Adri_tifosi

Do you think any factory will start a petrol engine program with the current diesel advantage ? Nobody want to waste their money in a customer team with the current regulation and fight with two works team with diesel engine.

Look how fast Aston got with a very limited budget compared to Audi and Peugeot.
The worst thing with this debate around Diesel vs. Engine performance is, that we are going to have it once again when Hybrids and electric vehicles are starting to enter!

CTD · 7 Jul 2009, 22:16 (Ref:2497525)

http://www.translate.google.dk/trans...2F&sl=fr&tl=en
I just wanted to share this

Mirage M6 · 27 Jul 2009, 22:02 (Ref:2509524)

Answers from Henri and his thoughts about LMS, Asian Le Mans Series, World Le Mans Series...

From Endurance-info French version, translated by Google below:

Part 1

http://translate.google.es/translate...hl=es&ie=UTF-8

Part 2

http://translate.google.es/translate...hl=es&ie=UTF-8

Tom908V12 · 14 Aug 2009, 08:23 (Ref:2521194)

Olivier Quesnel told in today's L'Equipe mag that Peugeot-Sport wants to "give" a 908 again to Pescarolo-Sport in 2010 to run Le Mans but also the LMS !!!

CTD · 14 Aug 2009, 08:34 (Ref:2521204)

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Originally Posted by Tom908V12

Olivier Quesnel told in today's L'Equipe mag that Peugeot-Sport wants to "give" a 908 again to Pescarolo-Sport in 2010 to run Le Mans but also the LMS !!!

Hurray!.
Let's hope they also give Pescarolo technological freedom to develop the 908!

AndrewF31 · 14 Aug 2009, 17:32 (Ref:2521474)

really good news. Even if Peugeot doesn't race LMS officially, their car could win it anyways. Could mean 2 Pescarolos all season since I'm guessing Peugeot would be supporting the car and Pescarolo could still have their own chassis running.

The Badger · 14 Aug 2009, 19:09 (Ref:2521515)

I presume this means that the Team is Pescarolo , and not the company that bought the old Pescarolo team ? Sorga or something like that .

Dead-Eye · 14 Aug 2009, 20:04 (Ref:2521556)

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Originally Posted by Tom908V12

Olivier Quesnel told in today's L'Equipe mag that Peugeot-Sport wants to "give" a 908 again to Pescarolo-Sport in 2010 to run Le Mans but also the LMS !!!

Just heard on RLM that L'Equipe also reported Peugeot apparently sending Pescarolo a 300000€ bill for the damage to the Le Mans car - is that true?

HORNDAWG · 14 Aug 2009, 20:06 (Ref:2521558)

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Originally Posted by Tom908V12

Olivier Quesnel told in today's L'Equipe mag that Peugeot-Sport wants to "give" a 908 again to Pescarolo-Sport in 2010 to run Le Mans but also the LMS !!!

Is there no link to the article??

L.P.

jc_nl · 15 Aug 2009, 19:43 (Ref:2521998)

It's also on DSC, Peugeot has send the bill for the car that crashed at LM this year to Pescarolo. And pescarolo did not insure the car for the race, (apparantly, reading DSC correctly, they never do) so they have to pay the bill themselves.

HORNDAWG · 15 Aug 2009, 23:43 (Ref:2522106)

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Originally Posted by Tom908V12

Olivier Quesnel told in today's L'Equipe mag that Peugeot-Sport wants to "give" a 908 again to Pescarolo-Sport in 2010 to run Le Mans but also the LMS !!!

Hmm, thats not exactly how it comes across from DSC to me.

The way it seems to me (from DSC) is they may want/let Henri run one, but if it happens, they require that it will not be for just Le Mans.

L.P.

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