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Watch live on BBC or Sky depending which it is on. 36 32.73%
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Old 4 Jan 2012, 15:13 (Ref:3007158)   #1376
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Just saw this Tweet from Sky Sports F1: "If you have the Sports Pack and/OR the HD Pack you will receive the F1 channel at no extra cost. Still not known if on Virgin or BT."

Suits me, I thought it was going to be £10 pm extra.
That's really quite old news, but welcome news, nonetheless.
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I spotted an interesting document on another forum that I thought I would share:

http://www.skymedia.co.uk/_downloads...%20%281%29.pdf
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Old 4 Jan 2012, 19:07 (Ref:3007280)   #1378
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That's really quite old news, but welcome news, nonetheless.
I do hope that sky don't make their channel to Sky users only. I'm on BT Vision, have the sky sports pack so I guess we can only wait and see. Obviously sky would get more viewers as a lot of Virgin/BT users have the sports package, however the likeliness is that they will want to keep it exclusive.
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I spotted an interesting document on another forum that I thought I would share:

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I notice from their estimated viewer ratings that sky expect a big drop in viewers. This seems strange as someone paying for their service will surely use it unless the quality of their service is way less than that of the BBC.

I know some will watch sky in the pub etc. but they expect their viewers to more than double for the non shared GPs.

Note that sky can be accesed from outside the UK as well so they may be including viewers from other countries.
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I do hope that sky don't make their channel to Sky users only. I'm on BT Vision, have the sky sports pack so I guess we can only wait and see. Obviously sky would get more viewers as a lot of Virgin/BT users have the sports package, however the likeliness is that they will want to keep it exclusive.
The problem for BT vision, is the lack of Freeview/Top=Up TV channels available. Essentially something would have to go to make space.

Virgin is more likely to happen, it would just be carrier negotiations that are probably being sorted out, mostly likely on which Virgin package it's carried in.
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Old 5 Jan 2012, 09:39 (Ref:3007568)   #1381
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I notice from their estimated viewer ratings that sky expect a big drop in viewers. This seems strange as someone paying for their service will surely use it unless the quality of their service is way less than that of the BBC.
I will have access to both and will watch the races I can on the BBC rather than Sky. I think the BBC have a decent line up for 2012 and can't see any reason not to watch them when they are covering a live race. Sky will be trying to give it the 'full Sky Sports treatment' but i'm not particularly bothered about the fancy screen borders and being reminded what else is on the F1 channel when I really want to see a proper build up programme to be honest. At the end of the day both channels will probably do a good job of delivering the sport to our screens, but the BBC will still be the mainstream F1 source for the UK and I'm pretty sure they'll give Sky a run for their money in terms of quality.
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Sky Have also back tracked on Sky GO

Previously they were saying the only way to get the F1 Channel on Sky GO, was to Have Sky Sports, apparently they have changed this.
If you have the HD Mix only, then the F1 Channel will be available on Sky Go as well.

Apologies for link to another Forum but this is the Source
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Sky Have also back tracked on Sky GO

Previously they were saying the only way to get the F1 Channel on Sky GO, was to Have Sky Sports, apparently they have changed this.
If you have the HD Mix only, then the F1 Channel will be available on Sky Go as well.

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They also clarified that on their twitter page:

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Obviously its from the same source..
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Something tells me they were hoping people would be confused and just sign up for the full Sports pack initially. Why else would they apologize for being 'wrong before'? Thats a little naughty if they attempted to mislead customers in the first instance IMO.
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A conspiracy, or just a mistake? More likely a mistake. It wouldn't have been a good scheme, how many would sign up for skygo and in such a short space of time!

You should work for sky if you can invent such an evil scheme.
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Old 5 Jan 2012, 11:41 (Ref:3007639)   #1386
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'If' being the opperative word.
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Sky GO is set up on 4 package options slightly different to the TV packages.

From the Website they are..
Entertainment (which appears to include content from both the Entertainment and Entertainment Extra TV Packages)
Entertainment + Movies
Entertainment + Sports
Entertainment + Sports + Movies

From that it's pretty clear where the confusion comes from as the F1 Channel doesn't readily fall into the Entertainment section as it's essentially a Bonus channel for those with HD. As Sky GO isn't in HD, the SD version of the F1 channel is going to have to be specifically added.

I'm also told that the people that answer the Sky Forums and do the other Social Media stuff like Twitter and Facebook, are actually just call centre staff. They have the same information to give out as the telephone advisers.
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Old 5 Jan 2012, 13:05 (Ref:3007669)   #1388
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I'm also told that the people that answer the Sky Forums and do the other Social Media stuff like Twitter and Facebook, are actually just call centre staff. They have the same information to give out as the telephone advisers.
THey've obviously been placed there to willingly mislead as all then
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In all honesty, I know one of them, and they are being given the same press releases as the media are... usually after they have been given to the media or have been put onto Sky's own websites.
As a result the questions being asked are often about something they themselves haven't been made aware of yet. It's because of that, the information has been a bit muddled initially then gets clarified.
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I highly doubt it. Come on.
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After all sky staff are working for the Murdocks and would you trust them?
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I highly doubt it. Come on.
Seriously???

If you'll note the winking smilie in my post, you'll realise that i was joking!
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Seriously???

If you'll note the winking smilie in my post, you'll realise that i was joking!
Then why are you consistently poking fun at anyone who is slightly critical of Sky?

Sky aren't the most moral broadcasting company on the planet and thats open to discussion. That doesn't mean we need idiotic over exaggerations and sarcastic pretend agreements. I put forward the possibility they may have tried to mislead customers, but it was only a theoretic possibility as we are unlikely to find out. I personally don't know. It may have been a genuine mistake? So seriously, lets try and discuss without taking the mick.
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Mr V doesn't poke fun at anyone who is slightly critical of sky.

Let's just discuss sky, their new product, how to get it, the cost, the impact, the quality, and anything else relevant. It will work best if we start by trying to understand others posts first before responding. We could all do with doing that.
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Oh good.

For the purposes of clarity that was sarcasm.
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Then why are you consistently poking fun at anyone who is slightly critical of Sky?

Sky aren't the most moral broadcasting company on the planet and thats open to discussion. That doesn't mean we need idiotic over exaggerations and sarcastic pretend agreements. I put forward the possibility they may have tried to mislead customers, but it was only a theoretic possibility as we are unlikely to find out. I personally don't know. It may have been a genuine mistake? So seriously, lets try and discuss without taking the mick.
I am probably about as impressed as you with the Sky thing, henners, but we have to discern people's tone a bit on here, and I think it was clear Mr V means no harm and is just playing with a few of his comments.
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I am probably about as impressed as you with the Sky thing, henners, but we have to discern people's tone a bit on here, and I think it was clear Mr V means no harm and is just playing with a few of his comments.
Fair enough. Maybe I aimed a bit of my frustration at him when I have been provoked across many sources. I apologize to the mods for my tone and will resist the temptation to get as heated in future.
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James Allen will replace Croft on Five live.

http://twitter.com/#!/EllyOldroyd/status/155009641435250688
Thats fine. I shall not be listening to 5 Live though. I enjoy his writing but he is no commentator and I find him incredibly annoying. I think I would rather have Legard if I am honest.
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