Diecast/Models 1:43 British Touring Car Championship Models - Page 2

The Darkness · 23 Jan 2004, 17:35 (Ref:848471)

yeah i was collecting them its just such as shame they don't do them any more. Its the same with the season review books that they did 1999/2000 then stopped.

kmchow · 24 Jan 2004, 00:59 (Ref:848911)

OTOH, there were never any BTCC Mondeos from the '97 season on, after they had the new facelift. I thought they were the best looking cars around! You could have bought cars from every other make? I don't know why Ford was the exception?

The Darkness · 26 Jan 2004, 09:31 (Ref:850740)

yeah there's no reason why. unless they were just to lazy to be bothered with making the new model Mondeo. which is ashame really because the later Mondeos would of looked really good.

Hobson · 26 Jan 2004, 10:36 (Ref:850814)

I very much doubt that it down to lazyness.

Probably that the previous Mondeo models didn't sell, and they thought that it would be a waste of money making the model only to sell a few hundred.

The Darkness · 26 Jan 2004, 13:50 (Ref:851051)

could be. but i've never seen any of the old Mondeos are they rare now that they've been out so long? unless its just me not looking hard enough.

**BertMk2** · 26 Jan 2004, 14:24 (Ref:851106)

There are a few mondeos on ebay (surprise surprise

) some of these are the early model whilst others are the slightly later version with the boot spoiler - none of them have the rapid fit scheme though

The Darkness · 26 Jan 2004, 17:51 (Ref:851348)

i would liked to of had a Rapid Fit Mondeo. i think another company should start making the models again of the new cars. i certainly would like to see the new cars as models.

Steve Wood · 28 Jan 2004, 13:07 (Ref:853571)

The high investment costs and the potentially small market prohibit manufacturers from making BTCC models, particularly to the high level of detail now expected.

Consider the tooling costs : Brass master model, Pressure Dies for body and floor pan, seperate Injection Moulds for interior, roll cage, glazing, front lights, rear lights, grille, then artwork for the decals, and a tampo printing fixture. All of this would be around £30,000 for a 1/43 touring car.

Then you maybe need the appropriate licences or permission from the car manufacturers, team, and sponsors - you can't just sell a model of somebody's car, there is intellectual property to consider. Some may be glad of the interest and exposure, but the more astute may want a cut of the action.

On a production run of 10,000 models, the above would add at least £3.00 per unit cost to recover the investment - and would they shift 10,000 Muller Vauxhalls ?

RC bodies are a different matter - overall impression and impact are more important than detail, the vac-form tooling is considerably cheaper, they are one-piece, one-colour (transparent), and they fit standard chassis.

Les · 29 Jan 2004, 19:12 (Ref:855498)

I heard that the Fords weren't made due to the massive licence fee Ford wanted - bummer

kmchow · 30 Jan 2004, 02:45 (Ref:855906)

Quote:

Originally posted by Hobson
I very much doubt that it down to lazyness.

Probably that the previous Mondeo models didn't sell, and they thought that it would be a waste of money making the model only to sell a few hundred.

Respectfully, that means there are more Vauxhall than Ford fans around? OTOH, I guess it's because the shape didn't change much over the years so they could resuse the same bodystyle? But wasn't there street versions of the '97 new bodystled Mondeos in 1/43?

The Darkness · 30 Jan 2004, 09:42 (Ref:856141)

Quote:

Originally posted by Les
I heard that the Fords weren't made due to the massive licence fee Ford wanted - bummer

you mean that they wanted loads of money for them to make the ford mondeo/focus?
thats abit greedy isn't it?

Hobson · 30 Jan 2004, 10:24 (Ref:856200)

Quote:

Originally posted by kmchow
Respectfully, that means there are more Vauxhall than Ford fans around? OTOH, I guess it's because the shape didn't change much over the years so they could resuse the same bodystyle? But wasn't there street versions of the '97 new bodystled Mondeos in 1/43?

I don't know how many Vauxhall models were sold, or wheter that year's Vauxhall was even made.
Wasn't there a Minichamp later spec Mondeo? I can't remember if it was 1/43.

**BertMk2** · 30 Jan 2004, 10:33 (Ref:856214)

Quote:

Originally posted by Hobson
I don't know how many Vauxhall models were sold, or wheter that year's Vauxhall was even made.
Wasn't there a Minichamp later spec Mondeo? I can't remember if it was 1/43.

There's an early spec Mondeo available in various colour schemes and a slightly later spec version (with boot spoiler) in a couple of different colour schemes. As far as I know they didn't make a model of the final schemes used by Ford in the BTCC (rapid fit).

egor · 2 Feb 2004, 11:02 (Ref:859915)

I've got a couple of 1/43rd diecast BTCC cars, two RS500 Cossies one Rob Gravett and one Andy Rouse and the Listeriene BMW M3.
Has any body else got any of these or are they getting rare now??

The Darkness · 2 Feb 2004, 15:03 (Ref:860186)

i haven't got any of those. i've seen Andy Rouse's Ford in magazines like Autosport and Robb Gravett but no more?
i've got a lot of the 1997-1998 and 1999 seasons models but no early models.

**BertMk2** · 3 Feb 2004, 10:05 (Ref:861194)

RS500's come up quite frequently on ebay (mostly in the black/red Texaco cloour scheme). I've got a mixture of BTCC, STW and SUDAM Super Tourers a few DTM/ITC cars and some WRC machines.

egor · 3 Feb 2004, 13:37 (Ref:861377)

The black/red Texaco RS500 was the Eggenberger (if spelt correctly) european touring car, so was probably more widely available.

Hobson · 4 Feb 2004, 13:33 (Ref:862661)

Found this on ebay, I've never heard of Dragon, but the detail is there.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...&category=1190

The Darkness · 4 Feb 2004, 14:23 (Ref:862737)

Is that one of those self build kits? if it is i've only ever seen the Volvo 850 Estate from 1994. thats the only one i've got?

egor · 4 Feb 2004, 15:31 (Ref:862810)

Yes it is, along the same lines as 1/24th plastic model kits from Tamiya/Hasagawa, produced in the same part of the world aswell (I believe).
I think they are not a bad quality kit - only had a good look at a tank kit and they look quite good!

egor · 6 Feb 2004, 08:25 (Ref:865113)

Here is a picture of the 1/43rd Andy Rouse RS500 I was on about, it was done by a company in the UK, but I don't know if they are still going?

The Darkness · 6 Feb 2004, 09:17 (Ref:865168)

Now i've never seen that before? I've seen the Mondeo he used to drive but never the Cosworth.

egor · 6 Feb 2004, 10:41 (Ref:865263)

I hope they are getting quite rare know (might be worth something one day!), you can just see the Rob Gravett RS500 to the left - just a plain whits car realy with a few modifications done by the same company.
But here is a picture of the Listerene M3 driven by the late Will Hoy, I always liked the look of this car.

kmchow · 8 Feb 2004, 03:44 (Ref:866808)

Wow, that Listerine BMW and ICS Sierra are very rare! They would probably fetch a handsome amount on Ebay.

The Darkness · 9 Feb 2004, 09:35 (Ref:867937)

thats a superb car. i would love to have that. it will be worth abit now Will Hoy is no longer with us.

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