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Old 16 Aug 2016, 05:00 (Ref:3665869)   #1
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Red Bull Holden Racing Team (CONFIRMED)

HRT switches from Walkinshaw to Triple Eight.
http://www.motorsport.com/v8supercar...-eight-807468/
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Old 16 Aug 2016, 05:10 (Ref:3665870)   #2
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HRT brand moves to T8 in new Holden deal

Dont think anyone is truly surprised by the change, But when i read it i was still "wow"

Last "factory" team to lose its major sponsor won bathurst that year
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Old 16 Aug 2016, 05:20 (Ref:3665871)   #3
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Story Here

- 3 year deal
- 888 to develop Next-Gen Holden Supercar racing platform
- WP loses financial support

No word on the impact to HSV..

No word on implications on 3rd 888 car for Mr Lowndes..
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Old 16 Aug 2016, 05:30 (Ref:3665874)   #4
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No word on the impact to HSV..
Someone who is part of the operation told me last week that Walkinshaw had extended the HSV deal by another ten years.
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Old 16 Aug 2016, 05:32 (Ref:3665875)   #5
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Someone who is part of the operation told me last week that Walkinshaw had extended the HSV deal by another ten years.
HSV Dealer Team to return?
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Old 16 Aug 2016, 05:47 (Ref:3665878)   #6
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Pretty sensible move from Holden all in all.

Does this mean the "Red Bull Holden Racing Team" will be able to claim they've won 11 of the last 15 Bathurst's now ?
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Old 16 Aug 2016, 06:14 (Ref:3665883)   #7
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Someone who is part of the operation told me last week that Walkinshaw had extended the HSV deal by another ten years.


Makes sense. There'll still be the next 'Commodore' to hot up even if it's not V8 powered.
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Old 16 Aug 2016, 06:18 (Ref:3665885)   #8
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I'm disappointed in this news.
Although struggling a little of late HRT have been one of the stronger teams for ages.

This just weakens the field a little more IMHO.
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Old 16 Aug 2016, 08:26 (Ref:3665899)   #9
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You can really only support a badge, a driver, or a team. Not all three at once.
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Old 16 Aug 2016, 23:43 (Ref:3666044)   #10
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Will they be "Red Bull, Holden Racing Team" or "Red Bull Holden, Racing Team" ?
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Old 17 Aug 2016, 00:07 (Ref:3666047)   #11
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Old 17 Aug 2016, 00:32 (Ref:3666051)   #12
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I realise there won't be a comma. I only used it to highlight the different emphasis.

The question remains....
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Old 17 Aug 2016, 00:34 (Ref:3666052)   #13
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The real question is how they will fit a bull and a lion on the side of the Commodore....

Mr Dane and Mr Jamieson have sold off every square inch of those cars, its not like there is loads of room for new, extra branding...

Although it might get the Holden branding onto their windscreens..
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Old 17 Aug 2016, 00:42 (Ref:3666054)   #14
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Im sure i have read somewhere (just cant find it) that the current lion driver emblem remains with Walkinshaw.

will the new car even have a lion
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Old 17 Aug 2016, 00:54 (Ref:3666056)   #15
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Im sure i have read somewhere (just cant find it) that the current lion driver emblem remains with Walkinshaw.

will the new car even have a lion
On the grille...
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Old 17 Aug 2016, 02:00 (Ref:3666065)   #16
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Never been a HRT fan, but I find this a bit sad, and from a category perspective, I'm not sure it's a good news story at all.
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Im sure i have read somewhere (just cant find it) that the current lion driver emblem remains with Walkinshaw.

will the new car even have a lion
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Although the Red Bull Holden Racing Team name will be used by Triple Eight next year, Walkinshaw noted on Twitter that the helmet and lion HRT logo that has been a hallmark of the brand since its inception in 1989 is set to be retired.
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cheers. I had read quite a few articles, couldnt remember the source

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Frees up some real estate when doing next year's livery. Maybe that's not a good thing.
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Old 17 Aug 2016, 03:51 (Ref:3666078)   #20
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It's been quite a fall from grace. I remember reading when Mark Skaife was racing that HRT was one of the top 5 teams supported across all sports (including AFL, NRL etc) in Australia

Now not even worth providing factory support to
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Someone who is part of the operation told me last week that Walkinshaw had extended the HSV deal by another ten years.
I find this exceptionally unlikely.

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Makes sense. There'll still be the next 'Commodore' to hot up even if it's not V8 powered.
Unless HSV is going to take on importing, complying and selling OPC vehicles for Holden dealers to sell I really do not see HSV's reason to be.

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Will they be "Red Bull, Holden Racing Team" or "Red Bull Holden, Racing Team" ?
Red Bull Holden Racing Team as HRT was the Mobil Holden Racing Team and other names over time.

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Im sure i have read somewhere (just cant find it) that the current lion driver emblem remains with Walkinshaw.
The lion/helmet device is linked with HSV, which is a brand that Walkinshaw has been able to use under a license from Holden. If Holden were to revoke the HSV license, the device would have no relevance to another team...

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HRT has been on life support ever since Skaife took over and then fell into a coma after Walkinshaw took it back. Multiple attempts the revive the brand, with the likes of Tander and Courtney, have fall flat and remained in a comatose state for years.

Finally the plug has been pulled.....

After Skaife went and all ownership stuff, my support dropped off, and kept dropping with everything that happened in the years after.

The sad reality is that a brand and dominate force that Tom built has been killed off by his son, whom I've honestly never liked from onset.
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Red Bull Holden Racing Team as HRT was the Mobil Holden Racing Team and other names over time.
I don't agree with this

For instance your statement makes it sound like the stats from the time of the "Mobil Holden Racing Team" can be added to the stats that will be amassed by the "Red Bull Holden Racing Team", which is ridiculous.

If Whincup/Dumbrell wins Bathurst next year, they could hardly claim it as the teams first Bathurst win since 2011.
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If Whincup/Dumbrell wins Bathurst next year, they could hardly claim it as the teams first Bathurst win since 2011.
Excluding this years result. It would be HRT's 14th Bathurst win....


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For instance your statement makes it sound like the stats from the time of the "Mobil Holden Racing Team" can be added to the stats that will be amassed by the "Red Bull Holden Racing Team", which is ridiculous.
Where did I say that?

Red Bull will be the sponsor of the official factory racing team of Holden: Red Bull Holden Racing Team.

As Mobil were the naming rights sponsor of the Walkinshaw owned Mobil Holden Racing Team.

Nothing carries over, just clarifying the fact that the Holden Racing Team name is a property of Holden and as such Holden has decided to transfer that to a new team.
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