Licences and NEAFP

[midgetman]

>>>>>>>>> will be doing a few UK events on my Irish licence

Ooh, ooh, ooh, got a question here, sorry, OT.

Is this due to the impending demise of NEAFP? Meaning you can do another country's domestic racing on your own domestic licence?

TIA

Max

[graeme]

Originally Posted by midgetman

Is this due to the impending demise of NEAFP?

When's this happening!? I race abroad on a Nat A with NEAFP and was planning to do so in 2008...

IIRC Ireland is a different matter in that there's a reciprocal (sp?) agreement between MSA and Motorsport Ireland to allow one anothers competitors to race in each others countries easily.

[Tim Falce]

Would someone care to point out what NEAFP stands for and what it means.

[graeme]

"National Event with Authorised Foreign Participation"

[diz]

Originally Posted by graeme

"National Event with Authorised Foreign Participation"

And it costs the organising club £182 to be listed and they don't even send you a little chitty type thing to say you have got NEAFP and you can't even check which meetings are listed.

Anyway, the rainlight thing is a bit of a burger, as I've been doing some sourcing and could get FIA approved [on the list] single seater led rainlights and could have got them to you - with free p+p - for £32.50
That was a waste of time and effort then wasn't it?

[terence]

Originally Posted by graeme

When's this happening!? I race abroad on a Nat A with NEAFP and was planning to do so in 2008...

IIRC Ireland is a different matter in that there's a reciprocal (sp?) agreement between MSA and Motorsport Ireland to allow one anothers competitors to race in each others countries easily.

And so you can for next year,according to next years Bluebook.

[JohnD]

I've been told elsewhere that the FIA had abandoned the NEAFP thing from next year. But I can't find the actual news release or whatever.

The FIA website (http://www.fia.com/index_1024.html) includes news releases etc. but all exclusively to do with F1 and World Rally. Nothing about NEAFP, or rain lights or anything to do with club racing. Does anyone know how to access those items at the FIA, please?

John

[midgetman]

MGDavid & I have a different understanding of the information that came our way. MGD reckons the demise of NEAFP means Int Histo licances only, I reckon it means that we can enter ANY continental race on our Nat A licence, not just NEAFP.

Here's our source (and I suspect JohnD's, too), see what you make of it:

http://www.fisc-eurotour.org/index.p...d=64&Itemid=60

[MGDavid]

'tis indeed so - I'm just a doubting mistrustful old cynic whereas MM is still young and awash with hope and optimism
There's an FIA 2008 International calendar at
http://argent.fia.com/Web/fia-public.nsf/vcal/00.1/$File/2008FULLCALENDAR.pdf
but there's hardly any clubbies on it, and no mention of NEAFP.

I asked MSA about the alleged FIA bulletin and rule change earlier this week - they haven't heard a thing...

[GORDON STREETER]

All we want now are subsidized ferries and away we go ! Brilliant:

[JohnD]

Indeed, MM, you know me now!
I'll ask Mr.Bakker, the FISCman, how he knows.

John

[Alan Cherry]

Originally Posted by GORDON STREETER

All we want now are subsidized ferries and away we go ! Brilliant:

Norfolkline was £165 return for transit trailer and race car in October (unless anyone else knows of one cheaper) RCN entry fees for the ring are about £280 for a 300+ km event ( you can share the drive with 2 drivers bringing down the cost, or register for the series and save about 100 euro on the entry fee for each event )
Not too many changes to make the car compliant with the German regs, and all the officials at the ring (apart from adolf on the gate) were amazingly helpful and friendly.
2008 dates are:-

05.04. Nordschleife
19.04. Nordschleife
22.05. Nordschleife im Rahmen der ADAC-24 Stunden
22.06. Spa-Francorchamps
16.08. Nordschleife
20.09. Nordschleife
04.10. Nordschleife
18.10. Nordschleife

NEAFP was free this year, and sent amazingly quickly from the MSA.
Cars have to be pre'95 or run in the 24hour specials class.


Alan

[terence]

2008 MSA yearbook clearly states Int Historic and Nat A,fear not ,you may all go to the Ball[s]

[Suze]

Originally Posted by MGDavid

I asked MSA about the alleged FIA bulletin and rule change earlier this week - they haven't heard a thing...

Lies!! I went to a meeting with the MSA present in the last couple of weeks of Nov [can't remember date] and the MSA representative there certainly due about it....

If I could remember exactly what was said, then I'm afraid I would post it, but rumour has it I may have switched off by that point....

I *think* there will be no NEAFP calendar as such next year and I know there was much confusion about licenses, but otherwise as above I'm afraid

[graeme]

Nice man at the MSA just answered this for me:

THe FIA have abandoned NEAFP - but individual national motorsport bodies will register their own events. So there'll be no FIA NEAFP calendar - but "Motorsport France" (don't know what their title is) will NEAFP their own events.

Bottom line - we can still race abroad

[JohnD]

So opportunity remains for fees to the MSA, then, for 'authorisation'?
John

[midgetman]

Does that also mean we have to race under relevant National rules rather than FIA? e.g. in Germany use catalytic convertors and HANS?