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Hahaha the nbn referance was a joke which I poorly executed it was a jab at some of the anti Supercars Facebook pages attempts at evidence . But the Supercars event was heavily hampered by the Knights game but I understand what you mean and I do believe I misread the context of your reply . For future reference are you pro or anti supercars @ Newcastle?
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There is more chance of 20 protesters getting the event called off than there is of 80 supporters getting the event to happen.
Afterall it only takes 1 complaint to the council to force a pub to have to cancel live music. Having said that, I find it unlikely this event won't happen this year. Given the way that mob has treated various parts of the Australian motorsport fraternity over the last 20 years, why do you seem surprised there might be some 'haters' out there? |
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How many stand alone races have the GT3 community tried to get up in Australia?
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Maybe the content of post #146 is a clue. Whatever, GT3 had not been mentioned in the previous 158 posts in this thread ... Anyway, to answer your question, I believe AGT have had a small amount of stand alone meetings in the past. They tried to get Tasmania up for 2017, but the competitors pushed against that. The difference between the AGT stand alone meets and Newcastle is that AGT would only try to do it by working with an existing circuit. |
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its interesting isnt it.
Supercars try to create events like newcastle to bring racing to the people. aust Gt3 need crowds to help fund their racing for the year. but the Gt3 fanbois complain and knock supercars even though Gt3 would disappear from public viewing in australia without supercars Supercars closes. then motorsport suffers significantly in australia. times have changed and what happened once will not occur again if supercars fold |
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I agree with your analogy, but I would like a rebuff and open debate. Agreed Supercars do put on a good show . However over the past 20 years , they have burnt their bridges in regards to support categories. And it has been pointed on this forum, and others by ppl close to the action, that the demands by supercars , is they come first all others , to use an Aust slang, "get to the back of the bus" I do remember a early meeting in 2000's where Formula Vee actually were able to promote the category at a V8 meeting. This was because of a private promoter not Super Cars It has been reported on this forum and others, about the cost for a category to come and play at a V8 Supercars/Virgin Australian Supercars meeting. I am not knocking Supercars , as they are in a business, and yes I have worked at some of the Big Australians businesses, and aware how the operate. But my rebuff is: If Supercars are really interested in the development of Motorsport, then cut the supports some slack, allow them to promote their respective categories so they can attract new competitors . This way potential drivers can get a foot in the door , without the old adage , Daddy's got money. How many drivers who have talent , but no $$$$$, to play the Supercars circus Don't enforce high fees to come and play. Put something back. But this is similar to the waffle from AFL, NRL, Rugby, and others " we support grass roots" If you believe that, then get the lights out , for the flying pink pigs One series cannot dictate what happens cheers |
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i dont think Supercars wants or needs to promote other forms of motorsport. At the end of the day Supercars job is to promote supercars and the better it does its job then the better the opportunities for other forms of motorsport. Bigger crowds and tv viewing means more opportunities for other categories like Gt3 to promote their product.
street races tend to have crowds more than double the size of permanent circuits and that's why Newcastle is important. Take a look at all the major sporting events, they tend to happen in large towns close to the city centre with public transportvery rarely in rural areas like many of australias race tracks |
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ok, we are prehaps talking about something different, i acknowledge they own the categories, but i was talking about stuff they dont own, like Gt3, ARC, CC F4, TCM etc. those categories job is to promote themselves and the best way is often on the v8 card even at a higher cost (and you should have to pay more when the crowd is bigger) |
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Yes street circuits do draw crowds. Yes Newcastle is important, and I think you would agree with me, there is a lot of people in regional ares that will come. Just like Townsville. The population is not centralised like Syd, Melb, etc, but spread, and yes it will be a successful event. I just dont like Supercars idea of charging supports a lot of $$ , when they will make buckets and tax payers have to cough up dollars. Same as Govt building $90 mil stadiums to play footy and rebuild them every ten years Hope it goes well , and everyone has a great time, and it lasts more than five years |
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But don't jump to the conclusion that I am a VASC "hater". On the contrary, I watch all the VASC that is live to FTA, and all the post race highlights for those not live. I get some Foxtel action via a mate. There are some things I don't like in VASC, just as there are some I don't like about AGT. Some things VASC does better, others AGT does better. To summarise, for me the AGT show is about a 9/10, and the VASC show rates about a 7½/10. I am not talking about the show from the lounge seat here, but the show from trackside. I have not yet made any negative comments about Newcastle (or Homebush); but I never went to Homebush, and I doubt I would ever make the interstate drive to Newcastle even if AGT was added. As an amateur photographer, high-fence street circuits are so limiting that I don't bother - most of our purpose built racetracks are much more photo friendly. As for Supercars disappearing - unlikely, perhaps more of a re-boot. But if they do go, then yes,events like Clipsal, Townsville, Surfers and Newcastle would also disappear. Motor racing, however, I would bet would still continue, and I would also put money on it that AGT would too. |
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If this was a Govt thing, everybody would be screaming, about double dipping. Just like a Politician claiming for a house not in his electorate . If you want supports, then give them a break, not charge an entry fee, limited to 6 tickets for the car and team, pay 40k per category to be shown on TV, FOX (and get Mil $$) then charge punters for streaming, etc, and don't forget the new super app , for mobiles. Warbuton and I believe yourself like the fox deal, all qualifying, all practice, supports as per Warbutons release, or have they back flipped. |
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