Home  
Site Partners: SpotterGuides Veloce Books  
Related Sites: Classic Cars Monthly Your Link Here  

Go Back   TenTenths Motorsport Forum > Historic Racing & Motorsport History > Motorsport History

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 24 Dec 2013, 20:47 (Ref:3347680)   #926
PAUL S
Rookie
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 54
PAUL S should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
If you love the RS500 then head over here and say Hi

http://rs500owners.com/index.php
PAUL S is offline  
Quote
Old 28 Dec 2013, 13:40 (Ref:3348315)   #927
Craner Curves
Veteran
 
Craner Curves's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
United Kingdom
Kelso
Posts: 4,383
Craner Curves should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridCraner Curves should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridCraner Curves should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridCraner Curves should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
I've been reading Dick Johnson's autobiography on Kindle and found the Sierra years very interesting, especially his bust up with Andy Rouse over the engine management chips he was being supplied with, which contributed to his awful 87 season.
Craner Curves is offline  
__________________
Don't exacerbate things!
Quote
Old 28 Dec 2013, 22:23 (Ref:3348426)   #928
GTRMagic
Race Official
1% Club
 
GTRMagic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Australia
Sell me this pen....
Posts: 46,572
GTRMagic will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameGTRMagic will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameGTRMagic will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameGTRMagic will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameGTRMagic will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameGTRMagic will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameGTRMagic will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameGTRMagic will be entering the Motorsport Hall of Fame
Quote:
Originally Posted by Craner Curves View Post
I've been reading Dick Johnson's autobiography on Kindle and found the Sierra years very interesting, especially his bust up with Andy Rouse over the engine management chips he was being supplied with, which contributed to his awful 87 season.
And yet Mr Brock bought 2 cars, a shedload of running gear and the technology to operate, and managed to compete in seasons 1989 and 1990 both competitively and reasonably reliably...

GTRMagic is offline  
__________________
Happy David Thexton Day, 21st March 2003
“I am not uncertain” - Dollar Bill Stern, Billions
“Fear stimulates my imagination” - Don Draper, Mad Men
“Everybody Lies” - Dr Gregory House
Quote
Old 29 Dec 2013, 20:36 (Ref:3348675)   #929
VIVA GT
Veteran
 
VIVA GT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
England
Leicestershire
Posts: 5,647
VIVA GT is going for a new world record!VIVA GT is going for a new world record!VIVA GT is going for a new world record!VIVA GT is going for a new world record!VIVA GT is going for a new world record!VIVA GT is going for a new world record!VIVA GT is going for a new world record!VIVA GT is going for a new world record!
I think with DJ it would have been a clash of ego's! I don't think he believed that anyone could be more clever than him...
VIVA GT is offline  
__________________
Incognito: An Italian phrase meaning Nice Gearchange!
Quote
Old 5 Feb 2014, 22:18 (Ref:3364624)   #930
Paden
Rookie
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 2
Paden should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Quote:
Originally Posted by KA View Post
Now you mention it, looking at Richard's side-on pics of the Sierras, yes, I see what you mean- the TDR cars do seem to ride lower at the rear....

Donovan & Pinkney
http://www.flickr.com/photos/richard...57627283400681
http://www.flickr.com/photos/richard...57627283400681

As a comparison, Bristow's Labatt's car
http://www.flickr.com/photos/richard...57627283400681
the Smith/Wilds Trakstar
http://www.flickr.com/photos/richard...57627283400681
Rouse's Kaliber car
http://www.flickr.com/photos/richard...57627283400681
Dave Brodie
http://www.flickr.com/photos/richard...57627283400681
and Jerry Mahony's Roger Dowson-prepped example
http://www.flickr.com/photos/richard...57627283400681

The TDR pair do seem to have a different stance to the others....
well noticed there... I was the trainee mechanic for terry at the time of building these cars, one of my jobs was to saw the swinging arms to increase the camber on the rear tyres after avon suggested a neg camber of 5 deg..
Paden is offline  
Quote
Old 5 Feb 2014, 22:27 (Ref:3364629)   #931
Paden
Rookie
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 2
Paden should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
yes you are correct, I was a trainee mechanic working for Terry when these cars was built in 88. 1 of my more tedious jobs was to saw through the rear swing arm on the car to increase the rear camber along with the suggested 5 deg of the avon tyres recommendations for the front setup
Paden is offline  
Quote
Old 6 Feb 2014, 21:05 (Ref:3364983)   #932
Alex E
Racer
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 445
Alex E should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
RS 500 Group A

Should anyone be interested a significant RS500 Gp A car has recently surfaced. PM me if you want to know more. Alex
Alex E is offline  
Quote
Old 7 Feb 2014, 09:30 (Ref:3365204)   #933
VIVA GT
Veteran
 
VIVA GT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
England
Leicestershire
Posts: 5,647
VIVA GT is going for a new world record!VIVA GT is going for a new world record!VIVA GT is going for a new world record!VIVA GT is going for a new world record!VIVA GT is going for a new world record!VIVA GT is going for a new world record!VIVA GT is going for a new world record!VIVA GT is going for a new world record!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex E View Post
Should anyone be interested a significant RS500 Gp A car has recently surfaced. PM me if you want to know more. Alex
Don't be such a tease with your PM me suggestion, your inbox will become clogged!
Be a man (and a mate) and make your findings public!
VIVA GT is offline  
__________________
Incognito: An Italian phrase meaning Nice Gearchange!
Quote
Old 5 Jun 2014, 05:35 (Ref:3415567)   #934
Amaroo Park
Veteran
 
Amaroo Park's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Australia
New South Wales
Posts: 2,417
Amaroo Park should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
So what was this significant Sierra?
Amaroo Park is offline  
__________________
BAZINGA!
Quote
Old 5 Jun 2014, 07:03 (Ref:3415595)   #935
VIVA GT
Veteran
 
VIVA GT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
England
Leicestershire
Posts: 5,647
VIVA GT is going for a new world record!VIVA GT is going for a new world record!VIVA GT is going for a new world record!VIVA GT is going for a new world record!VIVA GT is going for a new world record!VIVA GT is going for a new world record!VIVA GT is going for a new world record!VIVA GT is going for a new world record!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Amaroo Park View Post
So what was this significant Sierra?
Four months later an no further news? I don't think it could have been...
(Now if that nudge doesn't prompt a response, I don't think that it could have been true!)
VIVA GT is offline  
__________________
Incognito: An Italian phrase meaning Nice Gearchange!
Quote
Old 5 Jun 2014, 07:29 (Ref:3415599)   #936
Alex E
Racer
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 445
Alex E should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Quote:
Originally Posted by VIVA GT View Post
Four months later an no further news? I don't think it could have been...
(Now if that nudge doesn't prompt a response, I don't think that it could have been true!)
OK OK....... I give in.....it is the Eggenberger Trampio car that won the Japanese Group A Championship in 1988. When Homologation ended in 1990 it was put into storage & has never run since. It will arrive here in the next couple of weeks. The 1990 Rouse BTCC Sierra also recently returned here. I think the intention is for both cars to be used in one way or another.
Alex
Alex E is offline  
Quote
Old 5 Jun 2014, 07:58 (Ref:3415608)   #937
DAVID PATERSON
Veteran
 
DAVID PATERSON's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 1999
Australia
Brisbane, Qld, Australia
Posts: 5,549
DAVID PATERSON should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridDAVID PATERSON should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridDAVID PATERSON should be qualifying in the top 5 on the grid
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex E View Post
OK OK....... I give in.....it is the Eggenberger Trampio car that won the Japanese Group A Championship in 1988. When Homologation ended in 1990 it was put into storage & has never run since. It will arrive here in the next couple of weeks. The 1990 Rouse BTCC Sierra also recently returned here. I think the intention is for both cars to be used in one way or another.
Alex
Where is here?

Are you sure homologation ended in 1990. The RS500 was homologated in 1987, so it should be current until 31/12/92? Or is it 1990 because the XR4Ti was homologated in 1985?

Last edited by DAVID PATERSON; 5 Jun 2014 at 08:09.
DAVID PATERSON is offline  
Quote
Old 5 Jun 2014, 09:03 (Ref:3415643)   #938
VIVA GT
Veteran
 
VIVA GT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
England
Leicestershire
Posts: 5,647
VIVA GT is going for a new world record!VIVA GT is going for a new world record!VIVA GT is going for a new world record!VIVA GT is going for a new world record!VIVA GT is going for a new world record!VIVA GT is going for a new world record!VIVA GT is going for a new world record!VIVA GT is going for a new world record!
Quote:
Originally Posted by DAVID PATERSON View Post
Where is here?

Are you sure homologation ended in 1990. The RS500 was homologated in 1987, so it should be current until 31/12/92? Or is it 1990 because the XR4Ti was homologated in 1985?
I've a feeling that the RS500 homologation in Group A was extended to the end of 1993 to allow cars one more years running in Malaysia...
VIVA GT is offline  
__________________
Incognito: An Italian phrase meaning Nice Gearchange!
Quote
Old 5 Jun 2014, 19:49 (Ref:3415903)   #939
Alex E
Racer
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 445
Alex E should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Quote:
Originally Posted by VIVA GT View Post
I've a feeling that the RS500 homologation in Group A was extended to the end of 1993 to allow cars one more years running in Malaysia...
Yes I think you are right Gp A went on after 1990 in some countries. And some RS500`s did race in Japan after 1990. But I think the arrival of the NIssan GTR`s probably made RS500`s a bit obsolete in Japan.
Alex E is offline  
Quote
Old 6 Jun 2014, 02:33 (Ref:3416004)   #940
GTRMagic
Race Official
1% Club
 
GTRMagic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Australia
Sell me this pen....
Posts: 46,572
GTRMagic will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameGTRMagic will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameGTRMagic will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameGTRMagic will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameGTRMagic will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameGTRMagic will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameGTRMagic will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameGTRMagic will be entering the Motorsport Hall of Fame
'Damon Hill' Sierra For Sale

GTRMagic is offline  
__________________
Happy David Thexton Day, 21st March 2003
“I am not uncertain” - Dollar Bill Stern, Billions
“Fear stimulates my imagination” - Don Draper, Mad Men
“Everybody Lies” - Dr Gregory House
Quote
Old 6 Jun 2014, 06:23 (Ref:3416047)   #941
Amaroo Park
Veteran
 
Amaroo Park's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Australia
New South Wales
Posts: 2,417
Amaroo Park should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
From the pictures I have seen of the Hill car it looks rough
Amaroo Park is offline  
__________________
BAZINGA!
Quote
Old 9 Jun 2014, 12:37 (Ref:3417504)   #942
VIVA GT
Veteran
 
VIVA GT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
England
Leicestershire
Posts: 5,647
VIVA GT is going for a new world record!VIVA GT is going for a new world record!VIVA GT is going for a new world record!VIVA GT is going for a new world record!VIVA GT is going for a new world record!VIVA GT is going for a new world record!VIVA GT is going for a new world record!VIVA GT is going for a new world record!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Amaroo Park View Post
From the pictures I have seen of the Hill car it looks rough
As the original owner/builder of the car, Graham Goode stated on Facebook some time ago. How that car is now doesn't represent how it was when first built, or when driven by Damon Hill in 1989!
VIVA GT is offline  
__________________
Incognito: An Italian phrase meaning Nice Gearchange!
Quote
Old 10 Jun 2014, 01:02 (Ref:3417917)   #943
Amaroo Park
Veteran
 
Amaroo Park's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Australia
New South Wales
Posts: 2,417
Amaroo Park should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
From what I saw of the Goode cars at the time here in Australia they always looked well presented
Amaroo Park is offline  
__________________
BAZINGA!
Quote
Old 17 Jun 2014, 07:21 (Ref:3422903)   #944
Alex E
Racer
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 445
Alex E should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Trampio RS500

This is the Trampio RS500.
Attached Thumbnails
Ford Trampio 2nd pix.jpg  
Alex E is offline  
Quote
Old 17 Jun 2014, 07:30 (Ref:3422907)   #945
KA
Veteran
 
KA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Posts: 5,402
KA has a real shot at the podium!KA has a real shot at the podium!KA has a real shot at the podium!KA has a real shot at the podium!KA has a real shot at the podium!
That's one which is probably particularly well-known to plastic model kit enthusiasts- Tamiya did their 1/24 RS500 as the Trampio/Ciesse Piumini car as well as in Eggenberger/Texaco guise. I've still got one tucked away in my loft- Funnily enough I never did get round to the Eggenberger!


http://www.automodellistudio.com/201...osworth-rs500/

http://www.fordsierranet.com.ar/Fotos/tamiya06.jpg

From vague memory, is that the car which for some reason came over to Europe for a one-off ETCC round (Nurburgring I think?) in 1988?
KA is offline  
Quote
Old 17 Jun 2014, 07:36 (Ref:3422908)   #946
DAVID PATERSON
Veteran
 
DAVID PATERSON's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 1999
Australia
Brisbane, Qld, Australia
Posts: 5,549
DAVID PATERSON should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridDAVID PATERSON should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridDAVID PATERSON should be qualifying in the top 5 on the grid
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex E View Post
This is the Trampio RS500.
Quote:
Originally Posted by KA View Post
That's one which is probably particularly well-known to plastic model kit enthusiasts- Tamiya did their 1/24 RS500 as the Trampio/Ciesse Piumini car. I've still got one tucked away in my loft.

http://www.automodellistudio.com/201...osworth-rs500/

http://www.fordsierranet.com.ar/Fotos/tamiya06.jpg
I recently was given that model by a friend who won it in a raffle. I haven't removed the plastic yet, not sure if I should.
DAVID PATERSON is offline  
Quote
Old 19 Jun 2014, 08:43 (Ref:3423684)   #947
chavez
Veteran
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Australia
The Basin, Victoria
Posts: 2,829
chavez should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridchavez should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridchavez should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
Quote:
Originally Posted by DAVID PATERSON View Post
I recently was given that model by a friend who won it in a raffle. I haven't removed the plastic yet, not sure if I should.
I made a DJR Sierra from that kit.

There was also an Eggenberger kit, but the Trampio kit was moulded in white and therefore easier to spray red than the Eggenberger kit which was moulded in black.
chavez is offline  
__________________
"Your biggest auto race may one day become a Camaro playground", Chris Economaki, Bathurst 1979
Quote
Old 15 Jul 2014, 19:47 (Ref:3434222)   #948
KA
Veteran
 
KA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Posts: 5,402
KA has a real shot at the podium!KA has a real shot at the podium!KA has a real shot at the podium!KA has a real shot at the podium!KA has a real shot at the podium!
I'd missed this one (don't think it's been mentioned before?). Prospect, (who IIRC run the Labatt's M3 that Max Goff has been racing in the HSCC Supertouring series) have got the two 1988 Imberti/Jolly Club RS500s...

http://prospect.uk.com/wp-content/ga...5687cc830f.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-dXkIz3uPXZ...P4300574aa.jpg

http://prospect.uk.com/listings/rs500-imberti

http://prospect.uk.com/listings/rs500-jolly-club-car

Last edited by KA; 15 Jul 2014 at 19:58.
KA is offline  
Quote
Old 23 Jul 2014, 22:33 (Ref:3437146)   #949
martinlabatts
Racer
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
United Kingdom
southampton
Posts: 123
martinlabatts should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Quote:
Originally Posted by KA View Post
Maybe- though I don't recall Ford ever using wheels with centre lock nuts on rallycars- just normal 5-stud fittings. It's definitely got RS500 spoilers as far as I can see.

I've had a bit of a search on Google, and Antonin Charouz appears to have been using a Wolf Cosworth in the European Hillclimb Championship around 1991/2 which seems to fit with what's on the museum website- Charouz certainly had Marlboro sponsorship on his ETCC Corolla a few years before- there's one of those in the same collection
this car is for sale in the uk
repainted
martinlabatts is offline  
Quote
Old 12 Aug 2014, 07:56 (Ref:3443630)   #950
bent65
Rookie
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Australia
Central Coast
Posts: 61
bent65 should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
I was wondering if anyone can help me identify a decal on the Bond Caltex car from 1988. the decal on the upper rear quarter panel just behind the door.
This the best pic I can find of it at about 4:42 in this clip.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnaak...GWaB5LhrhYtNS0
Any help will do?
cheers
bent65 is offline  
__________________
The length of a piece of string can be calculated by a simple formula. Twice as long as from one end to the centre!
Quote
Reply

Tags
andrew miedecke, andy rouse, atcc, btcc, colin bond, dick johnson, dtm, eggenberger, ford sierra rs500, graham goode racing, group a, peter brock, trakstar, wtcc

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Question Re: RS500 Sierra Engines fordo Australasian Touring Cars. 3 3 Oct 2005 10:52
Ford Sierra RS500 Touring Car - with active suspension? William Dale Jr Motorsport History 4 27 Feb 2005 18:16
Ford Sierra RS500 Gr.A Register NSMG Motorsport History 12 24 Aug 2003 11:44
Sierra RS500 specification Adam43 Motorsport History 11 15 Oct 2002 18:14
The Ford Sierra Alan Jones Road Car Forum 6 24 Jan 2002 15:35


All times are GMT. The time now is 14:53.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Original Website Copyright © 1998-2003 Craig Antil. All Rights Reserved.
Ten-Tenths Motorsport Forums Copyright © 2004-2021 Royalridge Computing. All Rights Reserved.
Ten-Tenths Motorsport Forums Copyright © 2021-2022 Grant MacDonald. All Rights Reserved.