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Old 24 Apr 2008, 07:34 (Ref:2185513)   #1
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24h Nürburgring 2008

Hi,

the preliminary entry list of 24h at Nürburgring of this year was now published here:
http://adac.24h-rennen.de/uploads/me...g_08-04-23.pdf

There are some really interessting entries this year and the changed aerodynamics and wheigt rules for SP7 and SP 8 we will if the Porsches can dominate again.


Here some of the interesting entries:
  • Zakspeed Viper, rumored to use a new 6,2 litre engine
  • Phoenix Racing Aston Martin ??? unclear if they will participate
  • Gumpert Apollo using additional KERS-like Hybrid/V8-Biturbo drive, drivers: Dirk Müller and Heinz-Harald Frentzen http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/23/g...urburgring-24/
  • Kissling Motorsport joins using their new Corvette C6
  • LEXUS LF-A, nothing known at the moment http://www.motorline.cc/index.php/article=144324
  • 3 VW Scirocco as official manufacturer entry, two of the drivers are Hans-Joachim Stuck and Carlos Sainz
  • manufacturer entry by Subaru with Impreza WRX STi, tuned by Prova Racing
plus plus plus...
Of course Manthey Racing will the favorite using their Porsche GT3 RSR, as well as Land-Motorsport. Alzen Motorsport will be strong too.

There are much more interesting entries, the Aston Martins, BMW Z4, Audi R8...


Should be a great event!
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Old 24 Apr 2008, 09:13 (Ref:2185581)   #2
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Entry # 168 is a FIAT 500 !!

Now THAT, I've got to see.
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Old 24 Apr 2008, 09:14 (Ref:2185583)   #3
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I'm really looking forward to this.

Why is the Hankook / H&R Spezialfedern (Altzen) Porsche classified in SP8 as apposed to the RSR's in SP7 - Is it a 996 GT2?
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Old 24 Apr 2008, 10:30 (Ref:2185629)   #4
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Why is the Hankook / H&R Spezialfedern (Altzen) Porsche classified in SP8 as apposed to the RSR's in SP7 - Is it a 996 GT2?
Do you mean entry #4?
Details of the car are unknown, maybe it could be a big surprise. No information is available at the moment,
in Alzen's website's guestbook someone claims something BIG is coming...

Entry #34 seems to be the VLN-Cup Porsche 997 GT3, maybe as backup car for #4.
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Old 24 Apr 2008, 10:42 (Ref:2185631)   #5
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Ahhhhh.... I've looking forward to this too.... and hopefully the wealth of coverage again like we had last year. It was amazing, I had RLM commentary, Live TV feed, Live Ticker and Live Timing, plus Ten-Tenths and the Aston's GPS (it was bit crap though admittedly) to cram into one screen!

Let's hope the rain stays (mainly) away, and the fog doesn't do its 'thing' again.
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Old 24 Apr 2008, 10:45 (Ref:2185635)   #6
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Carlos Sainz!!!



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Old 24 Apr 2008, 10:57 (Ref:2185644)   #7
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Do you mean entry #4?
Details of the car are unknown, maybe it could be a big surprise. No information is available at the moment,
in Alzen's website's guestbook someone claims something BIG is coming...

Entry #34 seems to be the VLN-Cup Porsche 997 GT3, maybe as backup car for #4.
Yes, that the one.
Thanks for the clue.

I went to their web site and someone is also suggesting a 1300kg easy 997 turbo with a large KKK turbocharger and 1,1bar load pressure, with a Wide Body Look. Wow!, that would be something.
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Old 24 Apr 2008, 11:10 (Ref:2185652)   #8
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I went to their web site and someone is also suggesting a 1300kg easy 997 turbo with a large KKK turbocharger and 1,1bar load pressure, with a Wide Body Look. Wow!, that would be something.
Hm, maybe the entry author 'Teamgeist' is no outsider
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Old 24 Apr 2008, 17:04 (Ref:2185879)   #9
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6.2L engine in a Viper? Is it a Hemi V8?
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Old 24 Apr 2008, 17:11 (Ref:2185883)   #10
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Not knowing too much about the race, only get the 1 hour coverage about 8 months later on SPEED. Is there a class for either GT1 (FIA or ACO) or P2 or 3 cars in the race?
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Old 24 Apr 2008, 17:14 (Ref:2185888)   #11
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Nope. The only GT1 car is the Viper, which is allowed to race at the Ring because it's been there for the last ten years and is slowed down by using only 8 cylinders.

There's no class for prototypes of any kind, actually a car brand needs to be recognized by the German authorities in order to be allowed to run in the VLN (Nürburgring endurance series). Hence no Moslers or other more exotic cars.
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Old 24 Apr 2008, 17:23 (Ref:2185894)   #12
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Thats what I had figured, think I had heard somewhere they wanted the car to be driven to the track on its own and then raced.
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Old 24 Apr 2008, 18:07 (Ref:2185924)   #13
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Thats what I had figured, think I had heard somewhere they wanted the car to be driven to the track on its own and then raced.
That time however is long over, though it would be technically possible with the Aston Vantage N24. In the end it's still a touring car race, with a relatively* small field of relatively common GTs put on top of it.

*enough for a pretty full grid in an average series.

I think it's also the FIA classification of the track that doesn't allow anything faster than a GT2 on it, at least when driven in anger.
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Old 24 Apr 2008, 18:38 (Ref:2185951)   #14
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6.2L engine in a Viper? Is it a Hemi V8?
It's the V10 with two cylinders disconnected. Although I've heard they might switch to a real V8. The rules only state that the engine has to come from the same manufacturer, it doesn't have to be the stock one

@F360: Why? The new 500 isn't too different from the masses of Clios and Fiestas...
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Old 24 Apr 2008, 18:55 (Ref:2185972)   #15
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It's a great race but IMO there are to many classes.
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It's the V10 with two cylinders disconnected. Although I've heard they might switch to a real V8.
I thought they used the V10-2 in 2007, so a real V8 seems to be more realistic.
But is this Dodge Viper really a GT1? Not GT2?
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I thought they used the V10-2 in 2007, so a real V8 seems to be more realistic.
But is this Dodge Viper really a GT1? Not GT2?
IIRC it's one of the old Oreca cars, i.e. from the same class as todays Vettes, Astons or the Ferrari 550s. Of course that class was called GT2 until 1999.
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I thought they used the V10-2 in 2007, so a real V8 seems to be more realistic.
But is this Dodge Viper really a GT1? Not GT2?
They still had the V10 in the first VLN race 2 weeks ago, but they might switch before the 24h.
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Old 25 Apr 2008, 07:05 (Ref:2186223)   #19
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They still had the V10 in the first VLN race 2 weeks ago, but they might switch before the 24h.
News are ticking through the net, but no new real details. Check out this Viper shoot: http://www.gt-eins.at/cms/index.php?...=2574&Itemid=1

I noticed Falken Motorsports participate again, but 'only' using a 350Z. Peter Dumbreck is one of the drivers, where does he drive today, somewhere in japan? I miss him here in europe since Opel left DTM...

Team HISAQ Competition also seems to be very strong, based on the VLN results.
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I noticed Falken Motorsports participate again, but 'only' using a 350Z. Peter Dumbreck is one of the drivers, where does he drive today, somewhere in japan? I miss him here in europe since Opel left DTM...
Lexus in Super GT and Spyker in the LMS/LM24.

Falken said they wanted to bring a new GTR...lets hope for next year

By the way, in the entry list for tomorrow's VLN race there is a 350Z in class SP8 (4 to 6.2 litres)...I'm wondering what they're running
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I noticed Falken Motorsports participate again, but 'only' using a 350Z. Peter Dumbreck is one of the drivers, where does he drive today, somewhere in japan? I miss him here in europe since Opel left DTM...
Yes, he drives Lexus SC430 in Super GT series of Japan.
His team is Dunlop Japan's works team.
And Falken tire is related companies of Dunlop Japan.
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Sorry, Team Kraft had switched Dunlop tire to Bridgestone this year.
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Good to see Frentzen easing back into racing
the Gumbert seems to be an interesting car...
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There's a LIVE stream on the net, you know? ADAC, the German motoring organisation hosted last year, and I was watching in the UK. There are some SERIOUS cars out there...
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Nissan 350z...has to be a GT500 from Japan, right?
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