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Old 17 Jul 2000, 13:28 (Ref:23679)   #1
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I posted this in the Trackside Forum.


I highly recommend this weekend to anybody with a mild interest in good food, reasonable beer (hundreds of them) and great countryside. Oh and there's some excellent racing as well.

Practicing starts on the Friday 8th September. Racing starts on Saturday. Sunday has the 6 hours.

There's a Top Hat 1 hour race on the Saturday (I think) as well as the British Sports/Saloon Car Challenge. We usually start with a maximum grid.

Anybody going?
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Old 18 Jul 2000, 13:42 (Ref:23882)   #2
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Pete,
I'm going.
I'm sharing the car with Jon Owen (CSCC Grp1 Rover SD1 driver).
We're doing the French and English 10 lap races and the 1 hour 2-driver race

That will give the car about 120 mins of practice (180miles)
and a similar amount of racing.

I anticpate the whole exercise will cost me about 1200 all in. This works out at about 3.50 per mile, or 7 per racing mile on one of the greatest circuits in the world.

Compared with racing at at Thruxton for example:
8 laps pratice, 9laps racing (they stopped it short this year!!! no money back!) 19 miles practice, 22 miles racing.
Entry 150, prep 250, travel 150, 13 per mile, or 25 per racing mile!

As UK is so expensive, (even without me hitting the scenery!) the races generally so short, Spa is fantastic value.
And the first time you see Eau Rouge as you drive onto the circuit through the gates at La Source...even before you actually drive it.... is something I will take to my grave!

Must get to Nurburg, Monza, P.Ricard, Catalunya

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Old 18 Jul 2000, 15:10 (Ref:23899)   #3
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I'm just doing the British race this year.
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Old 19 Jul 2000, 01:10 (Ref:24031)   #4
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Has the CSCC (or other) thought about running a 6 hour at, perhaps, Donington or Brands? There must be enough historic Cortinas and Minis and whatnot to make up a grid. And there must be many spectators that could not afford to make it to Spa (like me).
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Old 19 Jul 2000, 10:33 (Ref:24059)   #5
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What is the additional expense,for you, of travelling to Spa compared with (say) Oulton Park? About thirty quids worth of petrol and a ferry fair. You can camp in the circuit for free. Ferry is very cheap for 4 people. So, I'm afraid Graham I don't buy the "cost" issue.

As far as racing is concerned Yelwoci made the point elsewhere that it is cheaper per mile to race at Spa than at any UK circuit.

As far as long distance races in the UK are concerned. Where would you rather go? To Spa where the noise restrictions and facilities are designed for long races or any UK circuit where they put curfews and "quiet times" on events other than FIA sanctioned International meetings.
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Old 19 Jul 2000, 10:45 (Ref:24065)   #6
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30 of petrol? The furthest track for me in the UK is about 250 miles, (Knockhill), Lydden, 200 miles. Spa 450 miles, (each way) plus ferry, so I would say the expense of Spa is more than 30.
Having said that, the 2 times I've been were well worth it.
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Old 19 Jul 2000, 11:34 (Ref:24072)   #7
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I think I said additional cost Steve.

Which on that basis is good value because even a die hard Combe fan would come away with a totally different view of motor sport.

BTW. Fuel is about 20% cheaper in Belgium.
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Old 19 Jul 2000, 15:01 (Ref:24115)   #8
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The cost of attending far off meetings is relative to how much you earn - you are a high or reasonably paid computer bloke are you not? I have less disposable income, and a lot less free time in large enough chunks to swan off to Belgium.

If it is cheaper per racing mile in Belgium, why is that so?
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Old 19 Jul 2000, 15:10 (Ref:24118)   #9
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Graham,

"you are a high or reasonably paid computer bloke are you not? "

Guilty as Charged!

Spa is 4.5miles long you get 10 laps in both practice & race and they charge about 190 for the privilege.

Thruxton, for example and its one of the better ones, is 2.3miles, you get about 8 laps in practice and somtimes 10 in the race.

I make things even better by thrashing the car in every race I can enter it into, in an attempt to diminish the costs of insurance/ferry/fuel/hotel/food/beer/etc

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Old 19 Jul 2000, 16:27 (Ref:24136)   #10
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.............. you are a high or reasonably paid computer bloke are you not?
NO

You miss the point of my previous responses young G man. If you share a car and split the cost of a ferry then its not much more than travelling around the UK to watch motorsport. Get yourself in with a team and you can hitch a lift which is even cheaper.

Come on man. Make an effort!!!
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Old 19 Jul 2000, 17:00 (Ref:24148)   #11
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Graham,

While I hasten to add that I can't do Spa this year, because it clashes with Battle of Britain 60th anniversary events, a continental trip is really not an outrageous expense.

Last year, we did Le Mans for a ferry fare of 91 for a Ford Granada, three up. Fuel in France is a third cheaper than in the UK (Belgium is even better, I think), and the go anywhere ticket was thirty quid.

At the time I had no regular income, but I still managed to squeak the money together by putting a bit away. I'm as poor as a church mouse that took a vow of poverty, but even for me, a European race once in a while is not out of the question.

I'm aware that your circumstances can mitigate against allocating big chunks of free time to a racing holiday. That will be a real factor, I know. And I'll concede that coming down from the South-West puts a few more petrol miles into the equation than my location just north of London, but it is achievable with a little determined saving.
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Old 19 Jul 2000, 17:16 (Ref:24151)   #12
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S'right Tim. You tell im!!!

Not wishing to beat up on you G chappy. However, you really should try and get about a bit, just to see what its like in other parts. I bet if you, Lee and a couple of others got together you could do it really cheap. And if you did, I'm sure tickets could be made available.

I fully expect to see a couple of TVR Granturas racing in the 6 hours.
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Old 19 Jul 2000, 19:23 (Ref:24186)   #13
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But I'm already saving for a camera lens and a TVR Vixen or Taimar!! Much more important you understand

(perhaps I should sell old Berol while my brother's not looking...)
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Old 20 Jul 2000, 09:31 (Ref:24313)   #14
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Spa

yelwoci - what is the full schedule for SPa - I'm due to be in our Volvo 122S (1965 red / white - class winner FIA Donington last weekend) (that part is for Peter) for the tin top challenge and wondered if there are any other races whilst we're out there ?

please advise
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Old 20 Jul 2000, 17:01 (Ref:24380)   #15
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I don't have the full schedule, especially for a '65 car.

I know there is a pre-82ish French Saloon race (10 lap);
a pre-82ish English Race (Barry Sidery Smith, 10 lap) an all comers 2 driver race.

Last year there were also a number of historic saloon races and of course the 6-hour on the Sunday.
There were also thoroughbred sports car races.

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