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Its really outrageous imo that Penske didnt correct the issue themselves for Long Beach. They knew they were able to use the push to pass at all times going into the warmup, for sure Newgarden and Mclaughlin knew otherwise why would they have used it on the restarts in St Pete?
So knowing they had the ability to use the system they were still planning to use it until they were finally caught, which happened in Long Beach warmup. Its deliberate cheating and not just a mistake. Finally, why wasnt the issue of the hybrid software picked up in pre event tech by the officials? Most if not all championships that use a spec ECU mandate that you must run a specific version of software which is checked during the pre & post event scrutineering. Presumably the hybrid software would have a different version number showing in the ECU than the standard software? Just like when you have 2 versions of software on a computer. You might have version 1.01 and then when its updated it becomes version 1.02 for example The penalty while damaging doesn't really seem all that harsh given the level of deception that presumably took place. |
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Minor minor point. They have removed them from the results and Pato O’Ward gets the full points for the win. However the laps led looks a little odd. They don’t redo those so the winner doesn’t get any points for leading a lap! Also I don’t think anyone now gets the most laps led. Small nuance that is unlikely to be important. But you never know. |
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And a thorough accounting of things from Marshall
https://racer.com/2024/04/24/how-tea...ond-the-limit/ |
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Shocking to hear the Captain's cars illegal in his own series.
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I'm wondering how far the ramifications of this could go, in terms of sponsors and the integrity of the Penske organisation itself?
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"Very disappointing," Penske said in a text message to The Associated Press. "I am embarrassed." Others have added their 2 cents worth. "I've emulated Roger Penske for many years on and off the track, so today's news is quite a disappointment for me," rival team owner Chip Ganassi told the AP. "This is a blemish on his team, their organisation, and the series. Very disappointing as a fellow owner and competitor in the series." https://www.1news.co.nz/2024/04/25/d...ndycar-opener/ |
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I thought this paragraph in that Racer.com article very interesting and it raises a couple of questions.
''Some drivers make a habit of pressing the P2P button on starts and restarts in the off chance the system has been mistakenly activated by the series. Newgarden, in particular, is well-known within the driver group for frequently hitting the inactive P2P button on starts and restarts and did so prior to joining Team Penske.'' Does this mean P2P has sometimes been activated on starts and restarts in previous races? Otherwise why would a driver make a habit of pressing the P2P button, if P2P is supposed to be deactivated on starts and restarts? |
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I did something illegal, but I’m not to blame because you didn't stop me!
(Assumes the rule is written not at restarts rather than only when activated by race control) Edit: If race control messed up you might be able to argue it I guess. I wouldn’t want to try and it’s not in the spirit. https://epaddock.indycar.com/docs/de...rsn=6ac7bc42_1 |
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The team should stop talking about it
The drivers should equally STFU The more they talk, the more duplicitous they sound. Mr Newgarden seems to want someone to feel sorry for him it seems.. What happened to the champ car days when all the teams ran T cars… and they could test the bejesus out of them and not put mileage or fiddle with known settings on the primary car. .Shrug: When is Penske selling IndyCar to NASCAR? |
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The conversation is one to be having though.. Firing an employee for helping to present an ineligible car should be the minimum outcome here. Unless of course it was sanctioned from the higher ups… If a Penske pilot wins the series.. it may well put an asterisk on their season.. |
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I've come to one conclusion often with things like this, the internet proves just how many cheaters are out there and their outrage outs them quickly and easily.
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