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Old 22 Jan 2004, 12:00 (Ref:846695)   #26
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Old 22 Jan 2004, 12:03 (Ref:846700)   #27
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Who cares! Another GT entry is always welcome, I know the series had full grids sometimes last year but most of the time they were 3 or 4 cars off of the maximum that could have been had, with the TVR's and Ferrari 575's we should have full grids.
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Old 22 Jan 2004, 15:07 (Ref:846903)   #28
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I was wondering that! Can anyone tell us how many 550s and 575s are actually in existence?
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Old 22 Jan 2004, 15:09 (Ref:846907)   #29
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Race versions or road versions?
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Old 22 Jan 2004, 15:59 (Ref:846984)   #30
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500/575 road cars are numbered in there 1000's.

The 575GTC race cars are built if and when customers want them.
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Old 22 Jan 2004, 16:07 (Ref:847002)   #31
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One thing I want to know is, the ACO has announced that GTS/GT class cars will run with 100 litre fuel tanks in the ALMS, LMES and LM, is this the same for FIA GT or are FIA GT cars still running with 90 litre fuel tanks? If the FIA GT cars are still using 90 litre fuel tanks would make it harder for them to race in the LMES too which would be a shame.
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Old 22 Jan 2004, 16:12 (Ref:847009)   #32
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Don't think it is much of an issue for teams.

Importantly GTS regs will be the same for FIA/ACO in 2005.
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Old 22 Jan 2004, 16:14 (Ref:847017)   #33
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Jag, if the fuel tank size for a car in the NGT class of the FIA GT championship is 90 litres and they want to run in the LMES as well as FIA GT then it IS a problem, it would mean the car would be running with a fuel tank 10 litres smaller than its competitors, or dont u consider that to be a problem?

I am fully aware that the regulations will be the same in 2005, but for now lets deal with the present.
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Old 22 Jan 2004, 16:21 (Ref:847034)   #34
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It's not that much of a problem Saleen. The teams with cars that have 100 litre tanks can place items in the tanks which distill the extra 10 litres so they will pass scrutineering. Other than that, they can change the fuel tank from event to event. In a GT car its not as difficult as in say, something like a single seater where its bag tanked under the seat of the tub.
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Old 22 Jan 2004, 17:51 (Ref:847178)   #35
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But still, teams won't want to be swapping fuel tanks over to take part in a different series!
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Old 22 Jan 2004, 17:56 (Ref:847189)   #36
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If something such as a fuel cell change keeps a GT team from running in the LMES, then I would say they are not that serious about running in the LMES anyways. No loss.
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Old 22 Jan 2004, 18:02 (Ref:847207)   #37
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But still, teams won't want to be swapping fuel tanks over to take part in a different series!
Points against that are...

It's only four times during the season.
Outweigh that against running two or three drivers, with budgets in the four extra races...

Can't see it being a problem, especially when thee teams strip and rebuilt the cras between races anyway, can you?
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Old 22 Jan 2004, 18:22 (Ref:847245)   #38
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Jag, if the fuel tank size for a car in the NGT class of the FIA GT championship is 90 litres and they want to run in the LMES as well as FIA GT then it IS a problem, it would mean the car would be running with a fuel tank 10 litres smaller than its competitors, or dont u consider that to be a problem?

I am fully aware that the regulations will be the same in 2005, but for now lets deal with the present.
Saleen, ny point is that it is not much of a problem swapping fuels tanks, nt running 10l smaller tanks.

Many teams already have FIA and ACO spec equipment from there trips to LM/ALMS etc.

As Audi R8R said, the fact there are only 4 races, plus the potential to run 23 pay drivers is a big incentive to race in the LMES.
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Old 22 Jan 2004, 19:47 (Ref:847333)   #39
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The teams with cars that have 100 litre tanks can place items in the tanks which distill the extra 10 litres so they will pass scrutineering.
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How do they measure the fuel tank during scrutineering? :confused:

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Old 22 Jan 2004, 21:28 (Ref:847450)   #40
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The thing is though, does anyone know if the FIA GT regulations have been changed to allow the cars 100 litre fuel tanks? Oh and by the way the problem woudnt only be 4 times a season, many of the teams in FIA GT will be competing at LM this year, and the LM 1000KM if it is repeated again this year. So that could be a total of 6 times, not a major problem, but a inconvience all the same.

So does anyone know if the FIA GT regulations have changed concerning fuel tank sizes?
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Old 22 Jan 2004, 21:38 (Ref:847461)   #41
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From everything I read at the time the Le Mans 1000K was a one-off race to promote the 2004 LMES season. But it is still about six times, LMES = four races, Le Mans Pre-Q and Le Mans. Still no ordeal in my opinion.
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Old 22 Jan 2004, 21:42 (Ref:847465)   #42
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Ratel has said that the calender will not grow on the calender that there is at the moment, with the exception of perhaps the LM 1000km which might run again. So that would make 7 times, thats almost as big as the ALMS calender.
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Old 22 Jan 2004, 21:44 (Ref:847468)   #43
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Really it would be double as you will have to change it back again for the next FIAGT round. I am not sure though whether they have changed to 100L tanks or not.
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By the way, Bobbi and Livio will line up in BMS's lead 550
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Really? Whats happened to Biaggi? Is he still with BMS?
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It doesn't mention anything about Biaggi, beats me what he's doing this year :confused:
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It doesn't mention anything about Biaggi, beats me what he's doing this year :confused:
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Indeed it's strange Biaggi is not in the 1st BMS car. Will he drive the 2nd one?

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I was wondering that! Can anyone tell us how many 550s and 575s are actually in existence?
Care racing has 6 existing cars and two new cars in build.

Weith are building a second car for 2004 (the original car will race in French GTs).

The Italtechnica JMB cars look to be bound for Italian GTs
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Old 23 Jan 2004, 17:25 (Ref:848460)   #49
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The thing is though, does anyone know if the FIA GT regulations have been changed to allow the cars 100 litre fuel tanks? Oh and by the way the problem woudnt only be 4 times a season, many of the teams in FIA GT will be competing at LM this year, and the LM 1000KM if it is repeated again this year. So that could be a total of 6 times, not a major problem, but a inconvience all the same.

So does anyone know if the FIA GT regulations have changed concerning fuel tank sizes?
The FIA and ACO fuel tanks are 100 litres anyway. For GT (GTS) class cars) Or at least that's what it says in the regs. In fact, I seem to remember that they were last year anyway. As the Veloqx car that did the British GT round at Thruxton was going to have no problem finishing the 75 minute race as their FIA tank was bigger than the UK spec ones.
In GT (N-GT) its the same too, so whoever started the topic about changing fuel tanks was wrong anyway...
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Care racing has 6 existing cars and two new cars in build.

Weith are building a second car for 2004 (the original car will race in French GTs).

The Italtechnica JMB cars look to be bound for Italian GTs
Thre must be a few 575's in build at present as well, given the number either already confirmed or rumoured....

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