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Old 14 Dec 2004, 02:09 (Ref:1178860)   #51
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Some posted some pics from Catalina Park on the web somewhere.

The pics were from earlier this year or late last year...

The track is still very much intact, but merely overgrown.

The armco is still there and everything.

It could only ever be revived as a club circuit though, i doubt it could hold big V8 Meetings.

This is its physical location

http://www.multimap.com/map/browse.c...rdsys=mercator

This is the photo tour and history i was talking about

http://www.tasman-series.com/misc/lo...talinapark.asp

Check it out..

Who thinks it could be revived ?
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Old 14 Dec 2004, 02:18 (Ref:1178864)   #52
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Old 14 Dec 2004, 02:22 (Ref:1178866)   #53
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What do people have against motor sports ??

Dont they see the financial benefits they would get for a couple of weekends inconveneice a year ??

Some people are just silly.
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Old 14 Dec 2004, 03:31 (Ref:1178881)   #54
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Thanks for those links Jason...
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Old 14 Dec 2004, 06:15 (Ref:1178911)   #55
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What do people have against motor sports ??

Dont they see the financial benefits they would get for a couple of weekends inconveneice a year ??

Some people are just silly.
Same thing happens here in Bathurst with Mt Panorama. Every couple of years it comes up in the local media as an issue. I think all but 1 residence on the mount itself was purchased after the commencement of racing at the mount. Yet some (not all) of these people who pay for the prestige of living on Mt Panorama complain that the motor racing annoys them in one way or another.

A bit like buying a house under the flight path at mascot i suppose.

Sure its a bit harder to get a park downtown, and you might have to wait an extra 10 minutes in woolies at the checkouts if you go in the peak times, pubs and restaurants are normally quite full too. Not a huge price to pay for an injection of millions into the local economy.
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Old 14 Dec 2004, 06:22 (Ref:1178912)   #56
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What do people have against motor sports ??

Dont they see the financial benefits they would get for a couple of weekends inconveneice a year ??

Some people are just silly.
Unfortunately , relatively few people benefit from motorsport but a lot of people are inconvenienced by it . Specially when it comes to street circuits .
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Old 14 Dec 2004, 10:17 (Ref:1179044)   #57
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i happened to have dinner with a Mr Perich this evening, very interesting!
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Old 14 Dec 2004, 22:49 (Ref:1179590)   #58
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In regards to Catalina Park ,the Lansvale team (remember them) had a tyre rep day there for Yokahama in the early 90's and did some hot laps of the circuit. The Tunnel of Love what a great name for a corner.
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Old 14 Dec 2004, 22:55 (Ref:1179593)   #59
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The Tunnel of Love what a great name for a corner.
Yeah, better than Turn 1 - Turn 6 at Queensland Raceway....

So resisturban , what was on the menu???

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Old 14 Dec 2004, 23:55 (Ref:1179627)   #60
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Resisturban was another player, aka mr medich also in attendance?????
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Old 16 Dec 2004, 00:22 (Ref:1180665)   #61
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Losing Oran Park. *#*# You know it's coming but you don't want to accept it. Oran Park is awesome as a spectator track. (Ingall doesn't think so though). Only having the creek in Sydney will be a bloody shame. We'll be at Oran Park in January for the historics meeting. Hope many of the touring car drivers who are invited will make it. RIP ORAN PARK!!!!!
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Old 16 Dec 2004, 01:07 (Ref:1180681)   #62
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That Catalina track looks quite the challenge, actually. Reminds me of a fast flowing Lakeside.

Wouldn't mind winning Lotto and doing the old girl up!
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Old 16 Dec 2004, 01:41 (Ref:1180699)   #63
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Checked out Catalina a while ago. It is like a lakeside. Only problem would be access, and spectator viewing, half of the track has a big hill next to it with houses on it. Had old Craven Mild signs embedded into the cliff face, oh the good old days. Track width shouldn't be a drama, it would be wider than Canberra was.. Sorry Ovaleye...
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Old 16 Dec 2004, 02:14 (Ref:1180706)   #64
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That Catalina track looks quite the challenge, actually. Reminds me of a fast flowing Lakeside.

Wouldn't mind winning Lotto and doing the old girl up!
Catlina was really good, I crashed my Gemini Improved Prod car there back in 1994. But it was a good fun track
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Old 16 Dec 2004, 11:32 (Ref:1180963)   #65
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I actually reckon in a way it'd be a shame to do up Catalina.

The way it has been pretty much left untouched, the wooden barriers, the old Start/Finish signs on the main straight etc etc, provides still, even 30 odd years after it was last used for top-class motorsport, a great insight into what it was like back then, like a time-warp.

The Aquatic centre situated 5 metres from the barriers on the front straight, along with tree's protruding very closely to the circuit in places, mean that at best the track could probably be used for a special stage nowadays, but that might even make too much noise.

It is still possible to follow the old Rallycross circuit as well on the inside of the track. It is mostly a single walking track, but pretty much follows the actual track and meets up with where it exited (just after the crest on the main straight) and re-entered (prior to the Tunnel of Love) the circuit. There's even some barriers still on the inside.
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Old 16 Dec 2004, 13:58 (Ref:1181086)   #66
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A mate of mine has a property up in the mountains and we go up there for a weekend of drinking p!ss and telling lies now and again - it's guaranteed that i'll be taking a stroll around Catalina next time we are up there and posting a few photos in this thread...
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Old 16 Dec 2004, 20:33 (Ref:1181362)   #67
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There is a 2 page spread about Oran Park in today's Daily Telegraph.... the end of the world appears to be nigh
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Old 16 Dec 2004, 22:02 (Ref:1181416)   #68
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The days of Oran Park watching the F5000 as a kid feeling awestruck by the sound and the size of the crowds they could pull. Sports Sedans in the early 80's when Edmonson, Moffat, Rogers, McCormack use to put on a show for the punters. As a kid when the GP circuit was just built and driving around the track in a road car and racing there in a go kart going over the bridge was a buzz to. The days when things were a little less commercial or in some peoples mind less professional.
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Old 17 Dec 2004, 00:55 (Ref:1181516)   #69
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I was fortunate enough to attend a BMW Club track day at Amaroo Park just weeks before it closed - brought back great memories of belting around there in an RX2 in the '70s. Now its a housing estate.......

Oran Park holds similar fond memories and I, for one, will make sure I get a little time on this great track before it too is given up to the seemingly never ending urban sprawl that is Sydney.

As for a new track for Sydney? I'd say don't hold your breath - land prices around Sydney are only going to go higher in the future and of course no Federal or State government will bite the decentralisation bullet 'cause its just all too hard.......
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Old 17 Dec 2004, 01:45 (Ref:1181533)   #70
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Being a old bloke I have great memories of running at Catalina,Amaroo & Oran Park.And with the passing of time and these tracks I am starting to feel a lot older.It was fun driving through The Tunnel of Love hitting the dip going up the hill hanging on as the car understeered going over the top a bit like the top at Amaroo.Soon I 'll only have trophys in the cabinet to remind me of the good old days.Having run at the last Catalina & Amaroo events looks like I'll have to drag the old car out for the final run at Oran Park.
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Old 17 Dec 2004, 03:25 (Ref:1181563)   #71
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Hey colinbond how long since you have been to Oran Park. If you have been there in the last few years you would have noticed the red tractor running around with the trailer it is emptying the bins (Pretty hard not to notice the old beast). As for Eastern Creek being overgrown with Housing I would like to know where and how. Outside gate 7 Dragstrip, Western side of circuit Swamp/new M7 Motorway, Directly north M5 then Industrial and to the east Water Board complex including Reservoir. With Oran Park the Perich family owned most of the surrounding land and must have finally decided to give up Farming after all these years. Rumors are that a new track is to be/is being built out Wilton way. If that happens who will go and where do they expect teams to stay.
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Old 17 Dec 2004, 03:56 (Ref:1181572)   #72
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The funniest story about Oran Park must be the bloke that blasted out of pit lane in his charger as Moffat & Jane and the pack had long gone. He was finally flagged in but for the couple of laps he had, the crowd had his full support and was really hooking in. Hey Charger. The other thing was the light plane that landed on the front straight and the taste of the old hot dogs served behind the pit straight.
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Old 17 Dec 2004, 09:13 (Ref:1181677)   #73
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I'd go to Wilton. The teams could still stay at their usual motels. It's only another 20 minutes down the highway.
The reason the Eastern Creek circuit was built there in the first place was because it couldn't be built out.
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Eastern Creek can and will be built out. There are farms and the like behind the circuit.. which is prime real estate for industrial and/or residential applications.

At $350k for a 700m2 block in a similar area, some of these farms are worth a kazillion!
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Old 17 Dec 2004, 09:53 (Ref:1181706)   #75
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The rates must cripple the poor farmers. Industrial zoning would save a lot of issues.
$350k.........Flip! I know farmers who near-on die if they heard that kind of price.

Oh to own a nice 150-300 hectare block near Sydney!
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