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Old 22 Sep 2007, 21:14 (Ref:2020651)   #1
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[DTM] Round 9 - Barcelona (SPN), 22/23 September 2007

Grid for penultimate round

1 - Martin Tomczyk [4] - Team Abt Sportsline - Audi A4 DTM - 1:18.689

2 - Mika Häkkinen [6] - HWA AG Mercedes - AMG Mercedes C-Klasse - 1:18.868


3 - Bruno Spengler [2] - HWA AG Mercedes - AMG Mercedes C-Klasse - 1:19.483

4 - Bernd Schneider [1] - HWA AG Mercedes - AMG Mercedes C-Klasse - 1:19.498


5 - Jamie Green [5] - HWA AG Mercedes - AMG Mercedes C-Klasse - 1:19.540

6 - Gary Paffett [9] - Persson Motorsport - AMG-Mercedes C-Klasse - 1:19.617


7 - Timo Scheider [8] - Team Abt Sportsline - Audi A4 DTM - 1:19.766

8 - Alexandros Margaritis [10] - Persson Motorsport - AMG Mercedes C-Klasse - 1:20.061


9 - Mike Rockenfeller [11] - Team Rosberg - Audi A4 DTM - 1:19.685

10 - Mattias Ekström [3] - Team Abt Sportsline - Audi A4 DTM - 1:19.744


11 - Tom Kristensen [7] - Team Abt Sportsline - Audi A4 DTM - 1:20.164

12 - Paul di Resta [19] - Persson Motorsport - AMG Mercedes C-Klasse - 1:20.207


13 - Christian Abt [16] - Team Phoenix - Audi A4 DTM - 1:20.251

14 - Daniel la Rosa [15] - Mucke Motorsport - AMG Mercedes C-Klasse - 1:20.687


15 - Markus Winkelhock [20] - Futurecom TME - Audi A4 DTM - 1:20.306

16 - Alexandre Prémat [17] - Team Phoenix - Audi A4 DTM - 1:20.319



17 - Lucas Luhr [12] - Team Rosberg - Audi A4 DTM - 1:20.483

18 - Mathias Lauda [18] - Mucke Motorsport - AMG Mercedes C-Klasse - 1:20.518


19 - Susie Stoddart [14] - Mucke Motorsport - AMG Mercedes C-Klasse - 1:20.604

20 - Vanina Ickx [21] - Futurecom TME - Audi A4 DTM - 1:21.403
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Old 23 Sep 2007, 11:48 (Ref:2020905)   #2
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Live Timing: The ninth round of the DTM from the circuit de Catalunya from 14:03 h. Alexandre Prémat from Spengler in the warm-up this morning. I'd expect Mika might let Spengler by at some point so, go ahead and start complaining now.

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Old 23 Sep 2007, 12:17 (Ref:2020920)   #3
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Holy hand grenade!
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Lap 7 Tomczyk and Häkkinen collide under braking for the first corner. Both into the grass, Häkkinen's car is moving slowly. Tomczyk has dropped back to eleventh.
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Old 23 Sep 2007, 12:24 (Ref:2020925)   #4
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What was Ekström thinking? He blew this one by his own. La Rosa did not have anywhere to go.
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Old 23 Sep 2007, 13:02 (Ref:2020938)   #5
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All Audis retires after multiple collisions by Mercedes drivers:
  • La Rosa hits Ekstrom
  • Hakkinen hist Tomczyk
  • Di Resta hits Scheider
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Old 23 Sep 2007, 13:03 (Ref:2020939)   #6
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Audi = sore losers, pulling all the cars out of the race.

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Old 23 Sep 2007, 13:10 (Ref:2020944)   #7
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Yeah CJ, and Green may as well let Spengler through now, LOL.
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Old 23 Sep 2007, 13:18 (Ref:2020951)   #8
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When Sprengler got past Rockenfeller, Audi had no way to take away championship points from Sprengler.
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Old 23 Sep 2007, 13:28 (Ref:2020959)   #9
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So is that it then? Just like 96? DTM over?
What is Audi saying to justify its actions?
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Old 23 Sep 2007, 13:34 (Ref:2020964)   #10
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Old 23 Sep 2007, 13:49 (Ref:2020974)   #12
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So is that it then? Just like 96? DTM over?
According Dr Ullrich not.

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What is Audi saying to justify its actions?
They wanted not that one of their [Audi] drivers would go over the limit and push one of the Mercs of the track.


Stupid move from Hakkinen. I did only see a few snippets of the race but this is a wrong action from Audi. After Zandvoort another race.
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Old 23 Sep 2007, 14:05 (Ref:2020984)   #13
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well, at least the title race is still open
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Old 23 Sep 2007, 14:10 (Ref:2020988)   #14
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Can't really see the DTM recovering from this

I didn't watch the race but it really does sound like Merc had employed Mika, La Rosa, Lauda and co on a kamikaze mission today

Meh, at least Green didn't let Spengler through, though I should imagine Merc would have pulled him over if Audi hadn't pulled out. He's won, but it means nothing. Farce
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Old 23 Sep 2007, 14:17 (Ref:2020992)   #15
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What a farce. Even if you are not happy with your rivals actions you should continue to race and sort it out afterwards. Of course doing this has a big impact but brings with it a lot more hassle than is wanted.
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I missed the race watching FIA GT - what happened here?

Sounds like Audi withdrew their remaining cars from the race because they were unhappy with something?
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Old 23 Sep 2007, 14:24 (Ref:2020997)   #17
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See post #5 and #12 in this topic.
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Old 23 Sep 2007, 14:30 (Ref:2021002)   #18
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Thats what you get for watching FIA GTs!
Seriously, Id like to see how Haug and Ulrich talk there way out of this.
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What a farce. Even if you are not happy with your rivals actions you should continue to race and sort it out afterwards. Of course doing this has a big impact but brings with it a lot more hassle than is wanted.

When Mercedes effectively run the series what else could Audi do?

The DTM is for the sole benefit of Mercedes, they just want someone, anyone, to race with 'em.
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When Mercedes effectively run the series what else could Audi do?

The DTM is for the sole benefit of Mercedes, they just want someone, anyone, to race with 'em.
I would like Audi join WTCC/BTCC and LMS. The current DTM is to much a Mercedes vs Audi game.
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Audi don't like playing with the big boys so take the ball home. Do I hear the death knell for the DTM?

It takes two manufacturers to have a manufacturers championship.
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Exactly why a big manufacturer should never ever be allowed to own more than 49% of a race team.

This deserves a WMSC tribunal all of its own

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Wayyyyy to go!!!!

Now Audi will run in the LMS next year! Yeahhhhh!
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Penalties for Häkkinen & La Rosa
Mercedes-driver Mika Häkkinen and Daniel la Rosa gets penalties after the controversial race at Barcelona earlier today. The stewards decided to penalize both drivers with - 10 places for the coming race at Hockenheim. Added to that Häkkinen is forced to pay a fine of 20.000 euro and La Rosa 10.000 euro.

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Häkkinen crashed out Audi-driver Martin Tomczyk with seven laps to go while la Rosa crashed out Mattias Ekström of Audi. This was two of the incidents that made Audi to pull out all cars from the race.
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Lucky the DTM is heading for a "new" DTM in 2009 with the new rules...
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