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Old 17 Sep 2010, 05:24 (Ref:2760707)   #1
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1984 Australian and New Zealand (Group A) Touring Car Races – Discussion & Results

As ever I want to cover the FIA Group A era through time and place, and now seems to be ripe for digging into the wast realms of anticipated knowledge about the Australian scene – and hopefully the New Zealand counterpart too, as there seems to be some exchange of teams, cars and drivers in the region. This will cover the period of late 1984 to 1992, perhaps with extensions in both ends if anything relevant pops up. What I like to dig into will be the following championships and races:
Australian Touring Car Championship
Australian Endurance Championship
AMSCAR
Adelaide GP support race
Bathurst 1000 (whenever it wasn't part of any series)
Wanneroo/Barbagello seems to have held Group A races during at least part of the period. Did any other tracks held similar low-key affairs – I know of an early 1987 Oran Park Castrol Clash for Cash race.
Australian 2.0 litre Group A (1985 or 1986?-1987)
for New Zealand I know of:
Nissan Mobil 500 series
Benson & Hedges series = New Zealand national Group A championship?
..and probably more. Autosport have a few short reports of Group A races supporting the 1990 Fatlantic series during January/February.
..finally, all races with a specific Group A class included.

My sources of knowledge for the period are various Autosport race reports and results (usually top 10 with fastest lap), Duke DVDs of ”The Great Race”, various editions of Bathurst 1000 yearbooks and a batch of mid/late 1980s Australian Motor Racing Year beginning with the 1985/86 edition, taped-from-Super Sport-VHS-no-longer-available-at-ease video recordings with hand written notes from the 1987 season ..bar Sandown! Most of this and more are available at YouTube. Add to that various internet sites:
http://www.autopics.com.au/default.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austral...r_Championship
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bathurst_1000
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandown_500
http://www.groupc.org.au/
This site used to have period pictures of both Group C and A racing, but seems to have split up since. Then there are the chassis histories here on 10-tenths. In general:
Where are they now: http://tentenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=67601
And more specific..
Alfa Romeo Alfetta GTV6 2.5: http://tentenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=105830
BMW 635CSi: http://tentenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=84884
BMW M3: http://tentenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=98701
Ford Mustang 5.0 GT: http://tentenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=65100
Ford Sierra XR4Ti: http://tentenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=84574
Ford Sierra RS Cosworth/RS500 Cosworth: http://tentenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=103035
Holden Commodore, VKs & VLs: http://tentenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=97759
Jaguar XJ-S: http://tentenths.com/forum/showthrea...highlight=xj-s
Mitsubishi Colt Starion Turbo: http://tentenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=103887
Rover 3500 V8 Vitesse: http://tentenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=81326
Toyota Corolla, AE86, AE82 and AE92s: http://tentenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=88687
Volkswagen products: http://tentenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=114314
Volvo 240 Turbo: http://tentenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=105300

Deliberately I have choosen to bypass the Group C era (1973-1984) to concentrate fully on the following Group A period as this is were my heart are. The time and effort to do Group As justice seems quite daunting right now, but in time I hope to return to the latter years of Group C if I'm not beaten to the task!

This Friday teaser are for you, while I'll prepare the 1984 Sandown 500 and Bathurst 1000 races and apparently a few other races from that year. Finally, should the Kiwi races be included or have a separate thread?

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Old 17 Sep 2010, 05:29 (Ref:2760708)   #2
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As far as 1984 goes, Group A cars definitely participated in the Sandown, Bathurst, and Surfers Paradise enduros. They appeared during the Australian Grand Prix meeting at Calder (recently saw a photo of Bondy's Alfa GTV6 that had to be taken at that meeting), I assume as part of the main touring car support race.
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Jesper, I'll send you what I have so far - but it has been laying around for 7 years, and it may take some time before I get to it. It includes some files I received from Mr. Dale - and I hope I haven't sent you the same files years ago...
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As always I appreciate your contributions to Saloon and Touring car racing and so I do this time too, Frank. Thank you very much. Hope you'll take advantage of the British 1980s stuff collected on these pages.

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Neville Crichton & Wayne Wilkinson teamed up in a black Frank Gardner built 635CSi. I believe this is the same car driven at Bathurst by Denny Hulme/Leopard von Bayern and was converted from one of the JPS team's Group C BMW 635 CSis.

The Crichton/Wilkinson car was possibly a converted Group C car but it was not the Denny Hulme/Leopold von Bayern 1984 Bathurst car which was built up as a Group A car and never converted from Group C.
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The Crichton/Wilkinson car used in NZ in 1984/5 was a new Group A car built by JPS which Crichton later used in the 1985 ATCC. The Hulme/von Bayern 1984 Group A car became the Jim Richards 1985 car. Crichton used the converted Group C car at the first round of the ATCC at Winton in February 1985, as his Group A car was still on it's way back from NZ. The converted Group C car was later sold to Jim Keogh. Cheers Adrian.
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Thanks for clearing that up. I was never sure if the Crichton/Wilkinson car was a new car or a converted Group C car.
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Definatly wasn't a Group C car, only two were built, one stayed in that spec, the other was converted by JPS to Group A, and as mentioned used by Crichton at Winton, and later in the year sold to Jim Keogh.

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As far as 1984 goes, Group A cars definitely participated in the Sandown, Bathurst, and Surfers Paradise enduros. They appeared during the Australian Grand Prix meeting at Calder (recently saw a photo of Bondy's Alfa GTV6 that had to be taken at that meeting), I assume as part of the main touring car support race.
There were a couple of Group A cars in the race, Jim Richards drove the #62 JPS 635, the Seton/Smith Mustang ran, plus a collection of converted Capri's and Dolomites...
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The Benson & Hedges series comprised 3 hour races at Manfield and Baypark and a 6 hour race at Pukekohe.
Two new BMW 635CSis were ready for the series. Kent Baigent & Neal Lowe teamed in one 635. I believe this was an ex-Schintzer 1983 chassis. I'm sure this has being mentioned in the BMW 635 thread.
The '85 Bathurst annual describes the Baigent car as ex-Schnitzer
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Castrol 500
Sandown Park, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
9th September 1984
3.903 kms x 129 laps = 503.487 kms
Round 3 of x of the 1984 Australian Endurance Championship
Round 3 of x of the 1984 Australian Endurance Championship of Makes

Results based on the Wikipedia results with additional info from the Bathurst annual and the YouTube videos.

Pos. Class No. Drivers (state) Entrant Class Car Grid Time FL Laps Time Notes
1. 1. 05 Peter Brock (Vic.)/Larry Perkins (Vic.) Marlboro Holden Dealer Team Gr. C/+3000 cc Holden Commodore VK 4. 4. 1:47,0 129 ca. 4h01m New car for the race
2. 2. 43 Allan Moffat (Vic.)/Gregg Hansford (Vic.) Peter Stuyvesant International Racing Gr. C/+3000 cc Mazda RX-7 5. 5. 1:47,5 128 New car for the race
3. 3. 25 John Harvey (Qld.)/David Parsons (Tas.) Marlboro Holden Dealer Team Gr. C/+3000 cc Holden Commodore VK 9. 9. 1:49,1 127
4. 4. 18 Murray Carter (Vic.)/John Goss (NSW) Valentine Greetings Gr. C/+3000 cc Mazda RX-7 10. 10. 1:49,9 125
5. 5. 20/19? Bernie Stack (SA)/Wayne Clift (Qld.)/Jim Keogh (Vic.) Gr. C/+3000 cc Holden Commodore VH 13. 13. 122 Keogh transferred from retired car?
6. 1. 77 Peter Williamson (NSW)/Charlie O'Brien (Qld.) Peter Williamson Toyota Gr. A Toyota Celica Supra 1. 1:58,5 119
7. 6. 27? Alf Grant (Qld.)/Craig Harris (Qld.) Bryan Byrt Ford Gr. C/+3000 cc Ford Falcon XD 118
8. 7. 51? Tony Mulvihill (NSW)/Brian Nightingale (NSW) Tokico Gr. C/+3000 cc Mazda RX-7 113
9. 1. 74 Dean Lindstrom ()/Larry Kogge () Gr. C/-3000 cc Mazda RX-7 111
10. 2. 65 John Craft (NSW)/Les Grose (NSW) Hulcraft Autos Gr. A Ford Capri Mk. III 109
11. 2. 28 Brian Bolwell ()/Ray Cutchie () Gr. C/-3000 cc Ford Escort Mk. II 107
DNF DNF 6 Allan Grice (NSW)/Steve Harrington (Tas.) Roadways Racing Pty Ltd Gr. C/+3000 cc Holden Commodore VK 2. 2. 1:46,3 1:48,3 103 Differential
12. 8. 8 Warren Cullen (Vic.)/Alan Jones (Qld.) K-Mart Auto Racing Gr. C/+3000 cc Holden Commodore VK 8. 8. 1:49,0 102
13. 3. 52 Steve Williams ()/Alan Fender () Gr. C/-3000 cc Ford Escort Mk. II 101
14. 4. James (Denis) Horley () [1]/Colin Spencer () Gr. C/-3000 cc Isuzu Gemini PF60 98
15. 5. Michael Freeman ()/Andrew Millison () Gr. C/-3000 cc Isuzu Gemini PF60 96
16. 6. 80 Ken Harrison ()/Ian Wells () Ken Harrison? Gr. C/-3000 cc Ford Escort Mk. II 96
17. 7. Martin Power (Vic.)/Philip Larmour () Martin Power? Gr. C/-3000 cc Triumph Dolomite Sprint 95
NC NC 32 Peter Hopwood ()/David Grose () Gr. C/+3000 cc Mazda RX-7 95
DNF DNF 70 Colin Bond (NSW)/Peter Fitzgerald () Network Alfa Gr. A Alfa Romeo GTV6 2. 2:01,4 93 Out of fuel
NC NC 10 Rusty French (Vic.)/Geoff Russell (Qld.)/Graham Moore (NSW) [2] John Sands Racing Gr. C/+3000 cc Holden Commodore VH 16. 16. 91
18. 8. Bob Harris ()/P. Tindell () Gr. C/-3000 cc Ford Capri Mk. IV6 87
DNF DNF 21 Graham Lusty (Vic.)/John Lusty (Vic.) Lusty Engineering Pty Ltd Gr. C/+3000 cc Holden Commodore VH 15. 15. 84 DNF
DNF DNF Lawrie Nelson (Vic.)/Peter Jones (Vic.) Capri Components Gr. C/-3000 cc Ford Capri Mk. III 76 DNF
DNF DNF 31 Jim Richards (Vic.)/Tony Longhurst (Qld.) JPS Team BMW Gr. C/+3000 cc BMW 635CSi 6. 6. 1:47,8 72 Transmission
DNF DNF 61 John White ()/Les Szreniawski () Gr. C/-3000 cc Isuzu Gemini 70 DNF
DNF DNF 39? John Bundy (Vic.)/Barry Jones (NSW) John Bundy Gr. C/+3000 cc Mazda RX-7 64 DNF
DNF DNF 50 Peter McLeod (nsw)/Graeme Bailey (NSW) Petrolon Slick 50 Gr. C/+3000 cc Mazda RX-7 57 DNF
DNF DNF 3 Peter Janson (Vic.)/Garry Rogers (Vic.) Cadbury Schweppes Pty Ltd Gr. C/+3000 cc Holden Commodore VH 12. 12. 46 Transmission
DNF DNF 46? Les Swallow (Vic.)/John Tesoriero (NSW) Les Swallow Gr. C/+3000 cc Ford Falcon XE 45 DNF
DNF DNF 19/20? Jim Keogh (Vic.)/Terry Shiel (NSW) Jim Keogh Gr. C/+3000 cc Holden Commodore VH 14. 14. 44 DNF
DNF DNF 9 Andrew Harris (Vic.)/Ron Harrop (Vic.) K-Mart Auto Racing Gr. C/+3000 cc Holden Commodore VH 7. 7. 1:48,7 43 Differential
DNF DNF 26 Bill O'Brien (ACT)/Garry Cooke (NSW) Everlast Battery Service Gr. C/+3000 cc Ford Falcon XD 41 Overheating
DNF DNF 17 Dick Johnson (Qld.)/John French (Qld.) Palmer Tube Mills Gr. C/+3000 cc Ford Falcon XE 3. 3. 1:46,9 37 Gearbox
DNF DNF 15 George Fury (Vic.)/Gary Scott (Qld.) Nissan Motor Co. Gr. C/+3000 cc Nissan Bluebird Turbo 1. 1. 1:46,2 32 Engine
DNF DNF 2 Steve Masterton (NSW)/Phil Ward () Masterton Homes Gr. C/+3000 cc Ford Falcon XE 11. 11. 14 Differential
DNF DNF 38? Colin Campbell (Vic.)/John Faulkner (Vic.) Bayswater Auto Wreckers Gr. C/+3000 cc Holden Commodore VH 9 DNF
DNS DNS 64? Lawrie Nelson (Vic.)/Peter Jones (Vic.) Capri Components Gr. A Ford Mustang GT Withdrawn, used Ford Capri

[1] James (Denis) Horley: one or two drivers or two names for one driver. Years later he joined Murray Carter in the NetComm-Skyline.
[2] The Wikipedia result shows Rusty French and Geoff Russell as drivers, but in the James Hardie 1000-book Graham Moore is mentioned as co-driver to French. A picture from the start show a French & Moore signature in the front screen of the car.

Relevant links:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1984_Castrol_500
YouTube videos, parts 1-4:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=om3xq...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06vKDFzIAFs&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Br1sT8bvb_s&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjHFY...eature=related

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James Hardie 1000 1984/85 (Bill Tuckey)

First race on a lengthened version of Sandown for the forthcomming 1000 km group C World championship race and a possible future Formula 1 Grand Prix fixture! The extra 800 metres or so added was a Mickey Mouse-section, expected to be hard on transmissions and so it proved.
Yet, eventual winners Peter Brock and Larry Perkins were never far from the lead.

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Old 22 Sep 2010, 18:32 (Ref:2763172)   #12
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As for the four Group A cars at Sandown, I think their history are quite well known:

#77 Peter Willimson Toyota Celica Supra: ex Hughes of Beaconsfield/Toyota GB car raced by Win Percy during 1983 and part through 1984 (don't know if this car was the 24h Spa-Francorchamps car?), before being bought by Williamson and air freighted to Australia for the Sandown race.

#70 Network Alfa Romeo GTV6 2.5: Group E production car raced by Colin Bond. Rebuild to group A specification by Autodelta (in Italy, or from parts flown out to Australia?).

#64 Capri Components Ford Mustang '85-model: Brand new car imported from the states and build to "intended 1985 ATCC Group A regulations" by owner and driver Lawrie Nelson. The car was far from ready at Sandown and rested for the race in favour of his Capri.
BTW what is his name? Lawrie or Laurie Nelson, as I have seen both.

#65 Hulcraft Autos Ford Capri 3.0S Mk. III: Don't know the story of this car, but I would think this was the Group C car of John Craft rebuild to Group A specification.
Somehow I think that the ABC transmission from the race, it's said to be a Group C car, so can anyone confirm weather the Hulcraft car was running as Group A or C at Sandown? It was classified as a Group A car three weeks later at Bathurst.

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These Grp C Capris have always interested me.

We know that they were converted from C to Grp A but how did they actually start out?

Were some cars imported from Europe, presumably as Grp1 cars in the late 70's or were they all built as Aussie Grp C's from scratch?
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#70 Network Alfa Romeo GTV6 2.5: Group E production car raced by Colin Bond. Rebuild to group A specification by Autodelta (in Italy, or from parts flown out to Australia?).
Without checking, I'd say it was rebuilt with parts sent to Australia, purely because of the time and expense it would take to ship it to Italy and back.

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BTW what is his name? Lawrie or Laurie Nelson, as I have seen both.
Good question. I can't remember what evidence I found but all my records show him as 'Lawrie Nelson'. I think it was an ad in Auto Action selling his old Group C Capri.
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These Grp C Capris have always interested me.

We know that they were converted from C to Grp A but how did they actually start out?

Were some cars imported from Europe, presumably as Grp1 cars in the late 70's or were they all built as Aussie Grp C's from scratch?
Was the Ford Capri on sale in Australia? I wouldn't be surpriced if it was as the Mk. I Capri made it to the US marked.
During the YouTube video from the Sandown race, I noticed that the 18th placed Bob Harris/P. Tindell was in fact a Mk. I.

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#70 Network Alfa Romeo GTV6 2.5: Group E production car raced by Colin Bond. Rebuild to group A specification by Autodelta (in Italy, or from parts flown out to Australia?).

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Without checking, I'd say it was rebuilt with parts sent to Australia, purely because of the time and expense it would take to ship it to Italy and back.
Do you have any idea of what kind of time frame the Network team and Autodelta had for the conversion? Sandown was the second weekend of September and the Group E series had presumably ended some time before.

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As for the four Group A cars at Sandown, I think their history are quite well known:

#77 Peter Willimson Toyota Celica Supra: ex Hughes of Beaconsfield/Toyota GB car raced by Win Percy during 1983 and part through 1984 (don't know if this car was the 24h Spa-Francorchamps car?), before being bought by Williamson and air freighted to Australia for the Sandown race.

#70 Network Alfa Romeo GTV6 2.5: Group E production car raced by Colin Bond. Rebuild to group A specification by Autodelta (in Italy, or from parts flown out to Australia?).

#64 Capri Components Ford Mustang '85-model: Brand new car imported from the states and build to "intended 1985 ATCC Group A regulations" by owner and driver Lawrie Nelson. The car was far from ready at Sandown and rested for the race in favour of his Capri.
BTW what is his name? Lawrie or Laurie Nelson, as I have seen both.

#65 Hulcraft Autos Ford Capri 3.0S Mk. III: Don't know the story of this car, but I would think this was the Group C car of John Craft rebuild to Group A specification.
Somehow I think that the ABC transmission from the race, it's said to be a Group C car, so can anyone confirm weather the Hulcraft car was running as Group A or C at Sandown? It was classified as a Group A car three weeks later at Bathurst.

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Slightly off-topic until we get to the 1985 thread, but apart from those early Group A cars mentioned, and the Capris that were converted from Group C, there were probably a couple of other cars in the Sandown entry that would go on to race in Group A form in 1985- a few of the early Group A Commodores in 1985 had Group C origins.

According to the 1985 Bathurst book I've got in front of me, Warren Cullen's spare car there was his 1984 Bathurst mount converted to Group A, and the Tony Kavich car was originally Grice's 1984 Bathurst car.

Were these the same chassis that Cullen and Grice had used at Sandown?
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They were, Sandown was the VK model's debut in Group C motor racing (they would only be eligible for 5 races)

Jim Keogh's Commodore was converted to Group A for 1985 (in time for rd2 of the 1985 ATCC), the JPS BMW driven by Richards/Longhurst was converted to Group A for 1985 (Keogh bought it for the '85 enduros) as well

Some of the dolomites were converted to Group A specs, running in 1985 in the ATCC, and Sandown, and also at the AGP. Isuzu Gemini's raced in the ATCC as late as 1988.

The Capri's had been racing in Australia since the mid-70s, and for years dominated the Sun 7 under 3-litre series at Amaroo Park (the pre-curser to the AMSCAR Series)


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2. 2. 43 Allan Moffat (Vic.)/Gregg Hansford (Vic.) Peter Stuyvesant International Racing Gr. C/+3000 cc Mazda RX-7 5. 5. 1:47,5 128 New car for the race
As per this post in the Australian section
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The Mazda used at Sandown was not a new car, its history dated back to 1982 Castrol 400


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Do you have any idea of what kind of time frame the Network team and Autodelta had for the conversion? Sandown was the second weekend of September and the Group E series had presumably ended some time before.
I'd only be guessing, but the timeframe would have been somewhere between the Silastic 300 at Amaroo (traditionally early August, sometimes the same weekend as Spa) and the Sandown 500 for conversion

I say this because the two main Group E series in 1984 was the popular and well-televised Stallion Stables/2WS Series at Amaroo, and the Calder/Adelaide Group E Super Series, which all the big names ran in. There would definatly have been a Group E support race for the Silastic 300, it would have been the last round of the series, and one assumes Bond would have run in it.
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Some of the dolomites were converted to Group A specs, running in 1985 in the ATCC, and Sandown, and also at the AGP. Isuzu Gemini's raced in the ATCC as late as 1988.
The Group A Geminis - sometimes entered as Holdens! - were always 4-door version, while at least some of the Group C Geminis were 2-door coupés. Another Sandown car later converted to Group A would bee the Ken Harrison Ford Escort RS2000, that was around for some of the late 1985 races as well. I believe that the homologation of both the Dolomites and Escorts expired at the end of 1985.
I don't know if the John Bundy Mazda RX-7 was the later Group A car as well?

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I'd only be guessing, but the timeframe would have been somewhere between the Silastic 300 at Amaroo (traditionally early August, sometimes the same weekend as Spa) and the Sandown 500 for conversion

I say this because the two main Group E series in 1984 was the popular and well-televised Stallion Stables/2WS Series at Amaroo, and the Calder/Adelaide Group E Super Series, which all the big names ran in. There would definatly have been a Group E support race for the Silastic 300, it would have been the last round of the series, and one assumes Bond would have run in it.
Thank you for putting the Group E series a bit in perspective. I don't know if the car was finished to absolute full Group A specification by Sandown either. A very clear shot of the front right rim show a five stud wheel rather than a central lock, which would later become the norm for the Network cars, I believe.

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I don't know if the John Bundy Mazda RX-7 was the later Group A car as well?
Don't have the Bathurst annuals in front of me, but IIRC, if we're talking about the yellow 'Unleaded' car at Bathurst in '85, yes I think it was described as being Bundy's Group C RX7 rebuilt?

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Thank you for putting the Group E series a bit in perspective. I don't know if the car was finished to absolute full Group A specification by Sandown either. A very clear shot of the front right rim show a five stud wheel rather than a central lock, which would later become the norm for the Network cars, I believe.

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I'm probably heading in a direction best left until we start the 1985 thread, but IIRC some of the privateer Starions seen in 1985 started life as Group E cars?
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Don't have the Bathurst annuals in front of me, but IIRC, if we're talking about the yellow 'Unleaded' car at Bathurst in '85, yes I think it was described as being Bundy's Group C RX7 rebuilt?

It was indeed the 'Unleaded' car I was referring to.

Got to think about that the Chris Heyer Audi 5+5 (Audi 80 to europeans/4000 to the US) was missing at Sandown.

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Another Sandown car later converted to Group A would bee the Ken Harrison Ford Escort RS2000, that was around for some of the late 1985 races as well. I believe that the homologation of both the Dolomites and Escorts expired at the end of 1985.Jesper
Am I right in thinking that the RS2000 and Dolly Sprint were one year special exemptions in Australia only, in order to help boost grid sizes in 1985?

I'm pretty sure that both cars homolgation for G1 had expired in 1983 IIRC, so I'm assuming might not have ever been eligible for GrpA officially.

With the Holden/Isuzu Gemini were these cars related to the Chevette/Kadett in Europe. I haven't seen any close up shots recently but memory tells me they were very similar?
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Am I right in thinking that the RS2000 and Dolly Sprint were one year special exemptions in Australia only, in order to help boost grid sizes in 1985?

I'm pretty sure that both cars homolgation for G1 had expired in 1983 IIRC, so I'm assuming might not have ever been eligible for GrpA officially.
Both cars went out of production during 1980 and according to FIA regulations they had a five year grand on elligebillety (spelling might be off). I have seen British references to a three year rule, but that might have been just a local rule as continental rules were five years. The Brian Chatfield BTCC Capri should be obsolete by 1985 by the British lines, but were still running as late as 1986. These days there's an 8 year warrenty on Group A homologations - which, in practice, only applies to rallying and rallycross.
Their absence in Europe by 1985 might well be explained by the sheer age of these former formidabble cars.

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With the Holden/Isuzu Gemini were these cars related to the Chevette/Kadett in Europe. I haven't seen any close up shots recently but memory tells me they were very similar?
The Geminis were based on the Opel Kadett C-type (Vauxhall Chevette 1st generation in lack of better describtion) - the last of the rear wheel drive Kadetts - so your memory won't fail on this one. Later edition Isuzu Geminis raced in Japan with front wheel drive and turbo, but against BMW M3 opposition, so nothing great came out of it.

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Pos. Pos. # Drivers (state) Entrant Class Car Grid Grid Time FL Laps Time Notes
1. 1. 05 Peter Brock (Vic.)/Larry Perkins (Vic.) Marlboro Holden Dealer Team C Holden Commodore VK 2. 2. 02:14.039 02:15.13 163 06:23:13.06
2. 2. 25 John Harvey (Qld.)/David Parsons (TAS) Marlboro Holden Dealer Team C Holden Commodore VK 12. 12. 02:17.06 02:16.11 161 06:23:13.66
3. 3. 42 Greg Hansford (Vic.)/Allan Moffat (Vic.) Peter Stuyvesant International Racing C Mazda RX-7 8. 8. 02:18.051 02:16.98 161 06:25:04.04
4. 4. 8 Warren Cullen (Vic.)/Alan Jones (Qld.) K-Mart Auto Racing C Holden Commodore 13. 13. 02:17.63 02:17.16 161 06:25:22.33
5. 5. 28 Barry Lawrence (Qld.)/Alan Browne (Vic.)/*Geoff Russell (Qld.) Bayside Spare Parts C Holden Commodore 17. 17. 02:18.36 02:16.21 158 06:25:08.40
6. 6. 10 Rusty French (Vic.)/Geoff Russell (Qld.)/*David Seldon (NSW) John Sands Racing C Holden Commodore 31. 31. 02:22.13 02:18.81 154 06:23:29.64
7. 7. 47 Brian Callaghan (NSW)/Barry Graham (NSW) Brian Callaghan C Ford Falcon 21. 21. 02:20.07 02:17.06 154 06:24:02.34
8. 8. 33 Mike Burgmann (NSW)/Bob Stevens (NSW) Mike Burgmann C Mazda RX-7 39. 37. 02:23.82 02:22.94 153 06:23:17.13
9. 9. 35 Ron Gillard (NSW)/Mark Gibbs (NSW) Goodyear Car Owners Club C Mazda RX-7 19. 19. 02:18.99 02:22.99 153 06:23:39.63
10. 10. 27 Alf Grant (Qld.)/Craig Harris (Qld.) Bryan Byrt Ford C Ford Falcon 42. 40. 02:24.45 02:17.66 153 06:24:38.49
11. 11. 52 Fred Geissler (NSW)/Ralph Radburn (NSW) Fred Geissler C Holden Commodore 27. 27. 02:21.25 02:21.65 153 06:25:33.91
12. 1. 61 Jeff Allam (GB)/Armin Hahne (D) Mobil Rover Racing A Rover Vitesse 36. 1. 02:23.41 02:26.41 152 06:24:42.68
13. 12. 19 Ken Mathews (NSW)/Greg Topfer (AUS/?) Robert Skelton (NSW) – DNS Ken Mathews Prestige Cars C Holden Commodore 32. 32. 02:22.16 02:24.20 151 06:25:06.70
14. 13. 21 Graham Lusty (Vic.)/John Lusty (Vic.) Lusty Engineering Pty Ltd C Holden Commodore 35. 35. 02:33.40 02:17.29 148 06:24:18.92
15. 2. 62 Denis Hulme (NZ)/Leopold Von Bayern (D) JPS Team BMW A BMW 635csi 49. 4. 02:28.64 02:28.34 148 06:25:07.36
16. 14. 15 George Fury (Vic.)/Gary Scott (Qld.) Nissan Motor Co. C Nissan Bluebird Turbo 1. 1. 02:13.85 02:16.99 146 06:25:31.33
17. 15. 7 Lester Smerdon (Qld.)/Wayne Park (Qld.) Queensland Highway Patrol Racing Team C Holden Commodore 53. 47. 02:32.20 02:29.15 145 06:26:36.25
18. 16. 51 Tony Mulvihill (NSW)/Brian Nightingale (NSW) Tokico C Mazda RX-7 44. 42. 02:26.11 02:26.11 140 06:24:23.33
19. 17. 37 Graham Stones (NSW)/Ian Stones (NSW) Graham Stones C Mazda RX-7 47. 45. 02:28.07 02:25.85 138 06:25:33.55
20. 3. 69 Barry Seton (NSW)/Don Smith (NSW) Don Smith A Ford Mustang 56. 8. 02:35.17 02:34.11 136 06:23:15.82
21. 4. 65 John Craft (NSW)/Les Grose (NSW) Hulcraft Autos A Ford Capri 60. 12. 02:38.58 02:41.40 135 06:26:08.45
22. 5. 67 Ray Gulson (ACT)/Grant O'Connell (ACT) Ray Gulson A Alfa Romeo GTV6 58. 10. 02:37.42 02:38.13 131 06:23:56.74
23. 18. 24 Allan Taylor (Vic.)/Kevin Kennedy (NSW) Scotty Taylor Holden C Holden Commodore 33. 33. 02:22.30 02:25.92 130 06:24:35.74
24. 19. 45 Bernie Stack (SA)/Wayne Clift (Qld.) Jim Keogh C Holden Commodore 23. 23. 02:20.33 02:22.50 130 06:25:10.97
25. 20. 38 Colin Campbell (Vic.)/John Faulkner (Vic.) Bayswater Automotor Wreckers Pty Ltd C Holden Commodore 40. 38. 02:24.10 02:19.98 127 06:25:06.05
26. 6. 73 Bob Holden (NSW)/Alexandra Surplice (NSW) Racing Car News A Toyota Sprinter 63. 15. 02:46.54 02:43.10 125 06:24:03.67
NC NC 13 Bruce Smith (Qld.)/Graeme "Hos" Waswo (NZ) Bruce Keith Smith C Holden Commodore 37. 36. 02:23.42 02:27.84 123 05:44:22.00 differential
27. 21. 32 Chris Clearihan (ACT)/David Grose (Qld.) Berklee Exhausts C Mazda RX-7 50. 46. 02:29.46 02:34.64 123 06:25:13.08
NC NC 49 John Donnelly (Qld.)/Simon Harrex (Qld.) Kenmar Agency Pty Ltd C Ford Falcon 55. 48. 02:33.36 02:34.64 122 06:23:41.77 insufficient laps
NC NC 22 Bryan Thomson (Vic.)/John Mann (Vic.) P.F. Motor Racing C Chevrolet Camaro 45. 43. 02:27.08 02:22.60 121 differential
NC NC 75 Laurie Hazelton (NSW)/Jerry Strauberg (NSW) Laurie Hazelton A Ford Capri 62. 14. 02:45.47 02:49.98 119 ?
28. 7. 63 Chris Heyer (NSW)/Gerard Murphy (NSW) Chris Heyer's Kingwood Import Centre A Audi 5+5 64. 16. 02:49.78 02:52.69 117 06:26:14.31
NC NC 30 Tony Kavich (NSW)/John Duggan (NSW) Tony Kavich C Mazda RX-7 43. 41. 02:25.38 02:24.67 117 insufficient laps
NC NC 44 Peter McKay (NSW)/Graham Moore (NSW) Chequered Flag Magazine C Mazda RX-7 30. 30. 02:22.02 02:21.73 116 engine
29. 8. 60 Steve Soper (GB)/Ron Dickson (NSW) Mobil Rover Racing A Rover Vitesse 38. 2. 02:23.69 02:24.87 116 06:24:07.18
NC NC 70 Colin Bond (NSW)/Alfredo Constanzo (Vic.)/*Ricardo Patrese (I) Network Alfa A Alfa Romeo GTV6 52. 6. 2:31,00 02:33.30 111 insufficient laps
NC NC 40 Joe Moore (NSW)/Robert Muir (NSW) King George Tavern C Ford Falcon 24. 24. 02:20.70 02:23.67 110 gearbox
NC NC 3 Peter Janson (Vic.)/Garry Rogers (Vic.) Cadbury Schweppes Pty Ltd C Holden Commodore 16. 16. 02:18.20 02:20.21 109 fuel system
NC NC 17 Dick Johnson (Qld.)/John French (Qld.) Palmer Tube Mills C Ford Falcon 3. 3. 02:14.71 02:16.21 107 gearbox
NC NC 26 Bill O'Brien (ACT)/Gary Cooke (NSW) Everlast Battery Service C Ford Falcon 28. 28. 02:21.52 02:18.68 104 engine
NC NC 72 John Smith (NSW)/Stephen Brook (NSW) Toyota Team Australia A Toyota Sprinter 57. 9. 02:35.83 02:36.74 100 oil pump
NC NC 41 Bob Morris (NSW)/Barry Jones (NSW) Chequered Flag Magazine C Mazda RX-7 9. 9. 02:18.107 02:18.01 97 insufficient laps
NC NC 68 Greville Arnel (Vic.)/Lyndon Arnel (Vic.) Greville Arnel A Mitsubishi Starion 54. 7. 02:32.21 02:36.65 95 insufficient laps
NC NC 29 Paul Jones (NSW)/Peter Hopwood (Vic.)/*Rod Millen (USA) Freedom Fence C Ford Falcon 20. 20. 02:19.61 02:21.93 88 engine
NC NC 39 John Bundy (Vic.)/Norm Carr (Vic.) John Bundy C Mazda RX-7 34. 34. 02:23.21 02:27.56 83 insufficient laps
NC NC 16 Christine Gibson (NSW)/Glen Seton (NSW) Nissan Motor Co. C Nissan EXA Turbo 26. 26. 02:20.93 02:23.56 76 halfshaft
NC NC 6 Steve Harrington (TAS)/Allan Grice (NSW) Roadways Racing Pty Ltd C Holden Commodore 4. 4. 02:14.886 02:17.32 70 accident
NC NC 9 Andrew Harris (Vic.)/Ron Harrop (Vic.) K-Mart Auto Racing C Holden Commodore 18. 18. 02:18.77 02:20.05 51 gearbox
NC NC 4 Terry Finnigan (NSW)/Geoff Leeds (NSW) Terry Finnigan C Holden Commodore 14. 14. 02:17.94 02:20.05 48 engine
NC NC 31 Jim Richards (Vic.)/Tony Longhurst (Qld.) JPS Team BMW C BMW 635csi 6. 6. 02:16.795 02:19.29 39 engine
NC NC 50 Peter McLeod (NSW)/Graeme Bailey (NSW) Petrolon Slic 50 C Mazda RX-7 15. 15. 02:18.19 02:19.39 39 overheating
NC NC 11 Garry Willmington (NSW)/Mike Griffin (NSW) Magic Eleven C Ford Falcon 41. 39. 02:24.16 02:20.61 37 split bore
NC NC 14 John English (Qld.)/Paul Gulson (Qld.) John English C Ford Falcon 29. 29. 02:21.73 02:20.76 34 accident
NC NC 66 Kevin Bartlett (NSW)/Peter Fitzgerald (Vic.) Equipe Sixty Six (Hong Kong) A Mitsubishi Starion 61. 13. 02:39.10 02:36.87 27 differential
NC NC 20 Jim Keogh (Vic.)/Terry Shiel (NSW) Jim Keogh C Holden Commodore 25. 25. 02:20.92 02:23.15 17 pushrod
NC NC 2 Stephen Masterton (NSW)/Bruce Stewart (NSW)/*Phil Ward (NSW) Masterton Homes Py Ltd C Ford Falcon 7. 7. 02:17.055 02:17.33 16 suspension
NC NC 43 Allan Moffat (Vic.)/Greg Hansford (Vic.) Peter Stuyvesant International Racing C Mazda RX-7 5. 5. 02:16.411 02:17.19 15 engine
NC NC 36 Allan Grice (NSW)/Steve Harrington (TAS) Roadways Racing Pty Ltd C Holden Commodore 11. 11. 02:16.38 02:18.92 7 gearbox
NC NC 64 Lawrie Nelson (Vic.)/Peter Jones (Vic.) Capri Components A Ford Mustang 59. 11. 02:37.44 03:16.88 1 03:16.88 steering
DNS DNS 12 Tom Walkinshaw (GB)/John Goss (NSW) John Goss Racing Pty Ltd C Jaguar XJ-S 10. 10. 02:18.96 accident
DNS DNS 18 Murray Carter (Vic.)/John Murden (NSW) Valentine Greetings C Mazda RX-7 22. 22. 02:20.30 accident
DNS DNS 34 John Tesoriero (NSW)/Bob Tindal (NSW)/*Neil Brain (NSW) /*Peter Hopwood (NSW) Pennant Hills Suspension Centre C Chevrolet Camaro 46. 44. 02:27.52 accident
DNS DNS 71 Dick Johnson (Qld.)/John French (Qld.) Palmer Tube Mills A Ford Mustang 48. 3. 02:28.35
DNS DNS 77 Peter Williamson (NSW)/Charlie O'Brien (Qld.)/*Michael Quinn (NSW) Peter Williamson Toyota A Toyota Supra 51. 5. 02:29.64 accident
DNS DNS 23 David Cox (Qld.)/Colin Young (Qld.) Berklee Exhausts C Mazda RX-7
DNS DNS 46 *Les Swallow (Vic.)/*John Tesoriero (NSW) Les Swallow C Ford Falcon
DNS DNS 48 *Phil McDonell (NSW)/*Gregory Crick (TAS) Johnnie Walker C Mazda RX-7
DNS DNS 53 Gary Waldon (NSW)/Stephen Gall (NSW) Mazda Dealers C Mazda RX-7
DNS DNS 74 *Lee Mitchell (USA)/*Tom Ballantyne (USA) Flying Tigers A Toyota Celica Supra

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Brock and Perkins winning for the second time around - this time in very commanding style - making it 100 % for the new VK.

A fair few new Group A cars around for this race. In fact no less than 17 of the new bread was entered for the race, of which 16 turned up.

The two TWR Rovers has been dealt with in the Rover Vitesse thread, but keep informations flowing - so is the Peter Williamson Supra and the reworked Network Alfa GTV6 - Alfa Romeo F1 driver at the time, Riccardo Patrese, was suggested for the car, but never appeared. The John Craft Capri did a fine job at Sandown and would do likewise here. Lawrie Nelson rebuild his '85 Mustang to '83 specifications and was allowed to race the car. Two other Mustangs appeared. Dick Johnson mirrored his green #17 Ford Falcon, running his newly acquired white #71 Zakspeed Mustang during practice and qualifying, while Don Smith had Bo Seton build him a third 'Stang.
Laurie Hazelton would have a second Ford Capri (another Group C convert?) with the Chris Heyer Audi 5+5 definitely being a former Group C car as was the Ray Gulson Alfa GTV6. The Arnel-brothers had a former Group E Mitsubishi Starion Turbo at their disposal, while the Equipe Sixty Six car was a brand new car. Frank Gardner and the JPS team had a European sourced 635CSi for Denny Hulme and Leopold von Bayern and I'm not sure if this car had a pre-history. The final two Group A cars would be the Toyota AE86s of the official Dealer Team and Bob Holden. I'm somewhat intriegued by the American Flying Tigers Toyota Celica Supra entry. As there never were an American Group A series, where would this car be based? Flying Tigers were seen on the 1981 World Endurance winning Bob Garretson Porsche 935s - any relations to this entry?

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I'm somewhat intriegued by the American Flying Tigers Toyota Celica Supra entry. As there never were an American Group A series, where would this car be based? Flying Tigers were seen on the 1981 World Endurance winning Bob Garretson Porsche 935s - any relations to this entry?

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Interesting one. Flying Tigers sponsored many F3 entires for the Macua F3 GP in the 80's (Damon Hill's Murray Taylor Racing car being one of the more famous ones) so I wonder if there's any link between the Bathurst entry and the Guia Grp A race that would've been a few weeks later?
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