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14 Sep 2010, 07:05 (Ref:2759109) | #1 | ||
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Kimi to Renault?
It looks like Kimi is making a play for a seat at Renault for 2011
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Great news! But where will Webber go?!
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14 Sep 2010, 08:29 (Ref:2759127) | #3 | |
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I would be very happy with this.
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I think it would be harsh on Petrov, regardless of who the replacement is. He's started to come good and has had some decent races recently - he looks worse than he is because he's up against Kubica, who has been driving out of his skin. It would be a shame if he didn't get another season, and it doesn't look like there'd be many options open to him if he leaves Renault.
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and more importantly, how would they go from having petrov's budget to paying kimi's wages? sure kimi would bring in sponsorship but on a longer term basis than they'd be after, surely...
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The problem will be the contract negotiations, Kimi will inevitably want more ice cream then Renault will be prepared to offer!
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And Bella makes the point about budget - Petrov has money and Raikkonen doesn't come cheap. From what was said last year, the reason he didn't go back to McLaren was that they weren't prepared to meet his wage demands, so would Renault really want to? |
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Ferrari has traditionally been happy with hiring mediocre journeyman type drivers for their second car in recent years, think Irvine, Rubens and Massa. |
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So he is trying to bail out of his exciting new challenge already?
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was. i'm not convinced any more, not now he's seen the good life outside f1. he's a very very fast driver... when he wants to be and when he feels like he can commit to it. i'm not sure kubica would be deeply enthusiastic about having kimi as a teammate too - kubica is very much a leader within a team and kimi is one that people end up following, so that could possibly create some unwanted drama. petrov might not be as quick or an a-list name but he would be a consistent points scorer once he's actually got a decent amount of mileage behind him and got his head around the fact he doesn't have to throw it off to show he's trying. and the best way for a team to function from the point of view of avoiding drama (hello, red bull) and maximising points is to have a clear number one and a slower but solid number two to make sure they're up for the constructors as well as the drivers title.
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I'd much prefer him to stay in WRC if I'm honest. He is, steadily, getting up to speed - did well in Japan until one lapse sent him down a bank.
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He's pretty much always retiring tho. I dont really think that his managment having talks with F1 teams really means that he's moving to F1, its just about keeping the options open.
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But anyway, on topic, Raikonnen really should be on the grid somewhere, but is he willing to take a pay cut? |
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I'll bet you around 400 rubles Petrov will be back.
Besides, I don't see Kimi accepting anything but the exact deal he feels he is due. |
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14 Sep 2010, 11:57 (Ref:2759214) | #17 | ||
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I'm sure Kimi won't be back. This is his management keeping him in the news.
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I agree. Kimi in the WRC is the balls out win or crash character I remember from karting. His latter years in F1 were a lack lustre. He only seemed to be there to make money [lots of it] and at times looked irritated and bored. The second Renault seat needs to bring cash and unless Kimi can drag a fairy godmother sponsor along, it seems unlikely that he'll be there.
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Hmm. How big a success has the last ex-Ferrari WDC made of his recent comeback?
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how about looking within renault and let Jérôme d'Ambrosio have a crack. Rather than let him disappear down the Virgin route. Kimi for me lacks passion.
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I'd like to see Kimi back, only in a competitive car though. I am sorry for Petrov as he has been improving recently. Does Kimi have the motivation nowadays? He is a great driver(remember most of his Spa drives), but does he want F1 anymore?
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