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Old 27 Mar 2013, 19:14 (Ref:3225685)   #1
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WTCC - Round 2 Marrakech Morocco 6-7 April 2013



Lap distance : 4545 m
Race distance : 2 x 11 laps
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1:43.753 / 157.70 kph,
Alain Menu (Chevrolet Cruze 1.6T), 14 Apr 2012
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1:44.617/156.39 kph,
Pepe Oriola (SEAT León WTCC), 15 Apr 2012
Source: www.fiawtcc.com
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Old 28 Mar 2013, 08:44 (Ref:3225901)   #2
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one of the worst race tracks ever conceived , races will be boring as F1 as you can't really pass
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Old 28 Mar 2013, 09:16 (Ref:3225913)   #3
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it will be a new track where the chevy will dominate. And i think that they will destroy old record lap
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Old 28 Mar 2013, 09:42 (Ref:3225918)   #4
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Chevy 1-2-3 in race 1, Muller then followed by any of the other 4. Oriola was quick there last year I seem to remember!
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Old 28 Mar 2013, 09:50 (Ref:3225920)   #5
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Hmm, it is a sort of Monza between concrete walls. I enjoy the cars jumping over the curbs, and I'm not afraid overtaking will be impossible. The straights are long enough for a decent slipstream.
So, for once a year, I like it. If they would race everytime on a track like this, it would get very expensive though...

I am afraid that the Chevy's will have a fieldday again though. They have an advantage in a straight line, and like Monza, that count's in Marrakech.
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Old 28 Mar 2013, 11:41 (Ref:3225951)   #6
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Overtaking on Marrakech isn't impossible but I'm also afraid that Chevy's may dominate the weekend.
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Old 28 Mar 2013, 16:22 (Ref:3226042)   #7
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Overtaking is perfectly possible, we saw three Chevrolets move from 8th, 9th, 10th to first, second and third last year.

Difference is now Muller is the guy who can, and the others will hope to do as well.
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Old 28 Mar 2013, 22:13 (Ref:3226186)   #8
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track would be better if they got rid of the t12-14 chicane, that would improve the overtaking at the hairpin.
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Old 29 Mar 2013, 13:38 (Ref:3226358)   #9
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Dudukalo is out at Lada.

Harsh?
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Very harsh I feel, Don't know much about Koslovskiy, I think Aleshin or Afanasyev would have been a lot stronger choices
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Old 29 Mar 2013, 15:37 (Ref:3226404)   #12
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Old 29 Mar 2013, 23:24 (Ref:3226655)   #13
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Kozlovskiy will certainly have one hell of an introduction to the WTCC around the unusual Marrakech street circuit.

It's not been confirmed that he's doing any more events, so it could just be LADA decided to suspend Dudukalo for an event.
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Old 30 Mar 2013, 03:51 (Ref:3226712)   #14
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The degree of harshness may depend on whether or not he actually had a very serious testing shunt before the season as well. Think it was reported that he had?

Afanasiev has Lukoil backing for FIA GT, guess they weren't interested in moving him? I can't remember whether or not Aleshin is backed by them still. If he is, then this seems a much wiser move than returning to FR3.5 with Tech 1. Don't see what good that is doing his career!
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About a year to late...
He had some good races last year.

But with so much backing from Lukoil I don't understand why they don't put a decent Russian driver in the car.
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It's not been confirmed that he's doing any more events, so it could just be LADA decided to suspend Dudukalo for an event.
Lada have now confirmed Mikhail Kozlovskiy as their new driver. The PR refers to "starting from Marrakesh round" so looks like it's more than just a one-off substitute. Unless of course he crashes as well!
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He had some good races last year.

But with so much backing from Lukoil I don't understand why they don't put a decent Russian driver in the car.

We may not know many russian drivers, that could be the right driver for WTCC...
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Somebody from F1 world said that one of the greatest racing drivers could live in Siberia but he had never drive a racing car.
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We may not know many russian drivers, that could be the right driver for WTCC...
Aleshin?
Rusinov?
Petrov?
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Rusinov would likely be a no-go because he's backed by Gazprom Neft (through G-Drive) and that would apparently conflict with running a Lukoil car. I know the oil business in Russia is complex but I think Lukoil is public rather than state-owned?

The late date really does create problems. Again, I think it would be sensible to pull Aleshin out of his 3.5 redux but I get that there may be contracts in the way. Petrov would be an interesting choice! Afanasiev certainly was driving with a "robust" style appropriate for touring cars in Nogaro last weekend if he could be secured.
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Somebody from F1 world said that one of the greatest racing drivers could live in Siberia but he had never drive a racing car.
If you search on youtube for dashcam movies from Russia, you'll doubt that there are a lot of good Russian drivers.
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If it's a joke, than it's a stupid one. I didn't know that youtube has something in common with real life.
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If you search on youtube for dashcam movies from Russia, you'll doubt that there are a lot of good Russian drivers.
Yes, i know that videos, and i am always guessing, if so many drivers can fail that much. So Dudukalos fault was not a big one...
(just joking).

It depends on what audience might Lukoil attract - buyers from Russia or buyers from rest of Europe/World? If its Europe/World, than they don't need to take a russian driver.
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If you search on youtube for dashcam movies from Russia, you'll doubt that there are a lot of good Russian drivers.
Well, that is down tro the unique car insurance situation in Russia. More drivers fit them to their cars, so more crashes are caught.

I'm sure there are many crashes in the Netherlands and Germany which aren't filmed because people don't feel that they have to fit dash cams as often to prove to their insurer they weren't at fault in an accident!
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